John Crowder and the New Mystics, Sons of Thunder

There are some people on the ‘Christian’ circuit that you know almost right away are lying and faking it and are outright charlatans. There are others you see on the circuit that you know almost right away are not   faking it, who are deeply sincere, committed and passionate for God. And others are a mixture.

John Crowder, based on the following video, seems to be passionate about “God” and sincere about spirituality (although I’m not saying he’s as deeply sincere or honest about everything  he does or says, nor do I say he is right.)  I believe he honestly thinks himself to be immensely in love with “Jesus”- but which Jesus? See this clip here: 

John Crowder has been deceived into believing that what he is experiencing on this video – Toronto Blessing, Lakeland Outpouring/Todd Bentley, third wave manifestations - are good and godly. Hence why he is crying for ‘More, Lord’!   He really does  think they come from God and are a blessing and are beneficial and worthy of attention.  {Though I have since seen other videos where John Crowder does seem as if he is  hamming it up and faking it for the audience – perhaps he thinks this deception helps God out.]

Not only is John Crowder experiencing odd and unscriptural things (that are in fact actually mocking and distracting and hindering him and his audience), but he teaches and prophesies odd and unscriptural things too and is experiencing ‘another Jesus’. 

Perhaps he genuinely thinks it is the real Jesus he is experiencing. But nobody said that some deceived people and false prophets cannot be sincere in their own way. John Crowder could be like I think John Lacy may have been – a sincere and passionate man after God who was passionately led off course {see http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/a-hungry-man-running-after-god-on-amazing-spiritual-experiences/]

John Crowder has a ministry called ‘The New Mystics’. Although I recognise ’seer’ and ‘mystic’ are the latest buzzwords in charismatic circles, and it probably makes them sound different and cool (to some), I still wonder why any genuine Christian prophetic ministry would want to call themselves ‘the new mystics’ when the biblical word ‘prophet’ has always been more than adequate – if that is indeed what they are. And what’s with the ‘new’ when it should  be the same ‘old time’ gospel message proclaimed as 2000 years ago? But he is right to call himself ‘new’ as it is  a new message – one that contradicts and replaces the gospel with another Jesus, a new Jesus, an interfaith Jesus who points to Rome.

Mysticism has always been linked with Roman Catholicism, and even before I knew that is what Crowder called himself, I noted the Catholic almost mocking mannerisms – and by Catholic manifestations, I mean the crossing himself and the ‘papal’ blessing with his fingers, which is quite obvious when you watch it on the video. (The bilocation he mentions is also Catholic mysticism straight out of Padre Pio’s textbook – he borrows heavily from numerous Catholic mystics and sometimes ministers dressed up in a brown monk’s habit.)

I also discovered that as well as being associated with the usual band of false prophets, apostles, heretics and apostates (Todd Bentley, Joshua Mills and John Sandford) John Crowder is also associated with the new breed of stigmatics such as Lucy Rael. Todd Bentley and Matt Sorger (a Bentley associate), among others endorse his book ‘The New Mystics’,  which on the cover advocates the lives and teachings of a diverse bunch - William Branham, William Seymour, Aimee Semple McPherson, George Whitefield, Sundar Singh, Brother Lawrence, Teresa of Avila, Madame Guyon, Charles Finney, Smith Wigglesworth, Maria Woodworth-Etter, St John of the Cross and Jonathan Edwards - indicating a complete lack of discernment as many heretics are included in this list - a high percentage of Catholics of course. 

I have often said where I think this antichrist anointing with its antichrist apostles and antichrist prophets is pointing -  to Rome. Perhaps this video gives us one more little sign of it.

It makes me deeply sad, as I see a very passionate but deceived man.

It reminds me that the ones who will do Satan’s work in the ’new move’ are not all unrepentant brazen charlatans,  liars, merchandisers, and thieves. They will not all be aware of the identity of the true god they serve. They will think of themselves passionately in love with God, when in fact they sleep with a harlot and commit spiritual adultery and serve and follow demons masquerading as angels of light. Like millions of others before them, in other counterfeit moves, they will think   they do God’s work.  What can I say to any man, but test the spirits so you are not one of them.