In this dream there was a marked difference in the behaviour of one person (who I used to fellowship with) that shocked me. The veneer of false humility was no longer present. The so-called love for unity, despite differences of opinion, was no longer spoken. What I saw was aggression, cruelty, domination. There was nothing disguised or subtle about it.

Amanda, when you see even a hint of these Jezebelic and Nicolation traits begin to manifest amongst those who are teaching you – even in your own walk – get out and run to Jesus. I pray that God shows you the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

1Cor 5:1-12

If you have difficulty hearing this truth or even bothering to prayerfully read it then you are in the very same rudderless boat I was in.

The people think this is radical and different, its demonic

Being on Fire for God in a Holy and trult passionate way would be radical now a days

Try praying and reading through the word before you jump on a bandwagon of false prophets.

Just because its new and cool doesnt make it right

Sit on the front row, not the back. If you don’t understand I’m sure there are more in your age group at the church that doesn’t understand either. Get a Bible Study group together. With a pastor approved teacher.

Ask questions in a group setting looking up answers. Have group discussions. It is very important to get a Good Teacher rooted and grounded in the Word Of God in this group.

Take what you’ve learned into the highways & Hedges. Then I promise you will no longer be bored. You will encounter the demonized. Learn what to do how to enteract with them. How to set them free in this group Bible Study. Spread the Gospel Of Jesus Christ to our lot and dying world. End of bordom!

You are in a perfect place to be decieved. You are looking for a exciting gospel. A party in Jesus. A getting high on the gospel. Signs, wonders, jumping around, acting a fool, rolling around on the floor, jurking, shaking, hissing, drunk on the glory. Be very careful you may get it. It could take years to get set free!

Brother, this is NOT The Holy Spirit Of The Bible. This is NOT The Jesus Of The Bible. Who has bewitched you?

Read the Gospel’s In the Bible. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. Pay close attention to Jesus’s 3 & 1/2 years of ministry on earth. He goes to a wedding party and turns water into wine. No where does he shake, hiss, roll on the floor in the Holy Spirit, or act a total fool.

He spends a lot of time teaching others His Way. Kingdom Ways, so they can go into the highway & hedges. He spends a lots of time withdrawn from the crowd in prayer to His Father.

Where in the Gospel’s does Jesus ever walk around drunk on glory?

If that is what you’re really looking for you need to seek the bars and the world. It is not anywhere in the True Church Of The Living God.

Now in the false church you will find it. Do you really want a fake Jesus just so you can act like a drunken/drug crazed fool without breaking any of man laws and going to jail? What about this path will lead you to hell? Still want to follow them?

Sherry

Crowder still is NAR.

Now this guy carries a toy figurine of a Baby Jesus about with him and declares “I have been smoking baby Jesus”. Ben Dunn produces music that tries to sound psychedelic instead it lacks any creativity with John Crowder speaking over it. Recently Ben Dunn was spreading the emotional deception ona high scale at Bill Johnson’s internship to all the students.

There buddies in Wales go out to shopping malls in weelchairs claiming there is glory on the chair. Please forgive me but these people are simple minded.

Neither.
I would have you changed by the Living Word of God breathed in all its beauty and perfection by the Holy Spirit of God, preserved by the blood of His martyrs for all time in a very precious book. I would urge you to look there for what you need. (Is. 2:22 “Of what account is man, who has but a breath in his nostrils?” ).

Stacey Campbell judges other Christians. She prophesies war and slaughter against those who don’t follow her lead. In the comments posted on this thread I recount her words on October 14, 1994 where she is on record stirring up Joel’s Army:http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/12/17/shaking-my-head-in-disbelief-at-stacey-campbells-ecstatic-prophecy-part-2/

In her “ecstatic prophecy” she demands that saints judge between the true and the false. But is such a call the province of the “annointed ones” alone, who may not be touched? How about an equal standard here? Otherwise, it is very hypocritical for you to say that I judge, but I am only obeying my Lord, who warned me to beware of false prophets. He said you may know them by their fruits (which are false prophecies). Stacey’s latest lying before the Lord on record is her famous display of hissing and headshaking on the platform before millions about Todd Bentley. Here’s a link calling her on the falseness of it and urging her to repent:

http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/stacey-campbells-new-manifestation-face-saving-re-todd-bentley/

Wake up! You are being deceived. You are the Lord’s if you love the truth. That has always been the mark of those who are His sheep, they know his voice, and will not follow a stranger.

All I can tell you is that when I see John (and Stacey), they wake something up in me that wants to worship Jesus, that wants to obey the Word. When I hear (or read) about Christians judging other Christians, it makes me want to give up and quit following Christ.

Now which of those would you want to be changed by?

I don’t know if you clicked on the link endtimes provided above that discusses John Lacey, who was a hungry man deceived by his beloved manifestations, but here is a quote from Tozer, from another link on that post that resonates with your comments:http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/how-to-try-the-spirits/

“Any religious movement that imitates the world in any of its manifestations [getting drunk??] is false to the cross of Christ and on the side of the devil and this regardless of how much purring its leaders may do about “accepting Christ”… Or, as Crowder perverts Piper, being “satisfied in Him.”

Here is another link describing the history of this movement. John Lacey was not the only one led astray by his cravings for good feelings: http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/contagious-tangible-transferable-impartation-and-anointing/

God does not need to offend your mind to increase your faith. That is one of the cliches this movement throws around to silence criticism. I said this once about Stacey Campbell, the Snake Lady who says that sort of stuff too,(i.e. human reasoning kills the word of faith) to manipulate you into thinking her hissing and head-shaking are as acceptable to God as Crowder’s drunken glory:

“Human reasoning and wisdom will NEVER kill the word of faith, as God requires of us to worship Him with all our mind, and a careful and logical study of his word will only build our faith. These leaders require of you to stop asking questions, to forget your doubts, to follow blindly after your feelings and they are leading you into a Pit.”

Don’t be led astray by your feelings, wakemeup. Think.

True Christianity must be accompanied by power. The word of God must be conveyed in power. Christians must live a life of power to be taken seriously. The reason many flock to new ways of thinking is because what they have seen until now lacks one thing *****POWER****.

Some say that all that we need is the Word of God to understand truth and I would agree however, it is the Word of God enlightened by the Holy Spirit that we need not just the word. Unenlightened bible reading is not enough.

I see the argument on many sites that this particular doctrine or that is not according to the bible. But what many are actually saying is that it is not according to the bible as far as my enlightenment is.

Many study the word just as the Pharisees had the Old Testament in their days and still read the Word as a dead book because they lack enlightenment by the Holy Spirit. They had Jesus in their hands and failed to recognize Him.

We may be in a new Dark Ages because many of todays ministers create a hunger amongst their people because of a lack of Holy Spirit empowered ministry and their are plenty of creepy, flaky kooks who are waiting there to fill the needs of those same people with weird and unbiblical teachings.

Why is it that those who are advocates of the Word seem so lacking in spiritual power (most seem to deny that Jesus does or even wants to do miracles) and why is it that those who are more enclined to trust in the Spirit (seemingly more than) the Word seem so given to kooky doctrine?

I believe that just like taking two chemicals that are powerful in themselves and mixing them together to create an absolutely explosive substance, when the Word and Spirit mixed together balance will produce spiritual power that few have ever known.

Out of balance on both sides of the fence has created these types of ministries.

“For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.” (2Tim4:3)

When I saw John Crowder once imitate tying up his arm and searching for a vein, and shooting up his demonic Jesus counterfeit of genuine Holy Spirit Joy, I was sickened. I have watched the devastation of heroin in the life of someone dear to me. My Holy God is not at all like that evil drug.
John Crowder is a fool,and if he doesn’t quit his addiction to experience, he is bound to OD, on a day when God’s patience is finally exhausted.

When is he coming to New York? I don’t need the weight loss. Just need the apathy-loss.

You guys are great! Thanks!

Hello Dear Ones;
This one’s real Shocker. If I were you, I’d stay away from these demonic meetings and I’d certainly protect the children.You might get an “impartation” of something that’s hard to get rid of. Cover yourself with the blood of Jesus and pray before reading the article.
Yes, I do encourage you to forward these articles. How will they know unless a preacher is sent?
You’ll find new article here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/3482527/Todd-Bentley-John-Crowder-AFTERGLOW-Summer-Solstice-Witchcraft-wizards-
Blessings and do be in prayer from me, family and team. We are all covered by the blood of Jesus and the Fire of the Holy Ghost.

Todd Bentley & John crowder HIGH ON JESUS? Star gate openers and STARWALKERS TO THIRD HEAVENs~ Secrets of the ascended masters ~angels of destruction, TOWER TO HEAVEN, LADDER TO GOD, STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN ~ and cocaine jesus
http://www.patholliday.com/ebooks.php
AFTERGLOW getting high on Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkBLnmdJ2SY
Summer Solstice Witchcraft wizards
~soul snatchers & soul scalpers Bentley and Chowder want disconnect you from the Jesus of the Bible and link you to the Awakened Beings they are calling angels who they say are from the divine realm existing in the Third Heaven. They want to take you through an occultist wormhole, the sorceries, long sought “Stargate of the gods.” Their witchcraft experiences want to teach you about the powerful new “electrical energies” bathing your spirits with the anointing of the Ascended Masters powers of the New Age.
Ps 91
Psalms 91

91:1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
2 I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
9 Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.
KJV

Anybody remember the Ozzy Osborne song “Mister Crowley” about ol’ Creepy Alistair?

I think there’s great potential for a filk/parody here.
“MISTER CROWDER…”

Rev David M Owen
Pentecostal Holiness Church Continuing