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A video for all you Todd Bentley healing revival fans….

I want to thank Carla from http://morebooksandthings.blogspot.com for pointing this link out of Todd Bentley ministering at John Arnott’s church, the Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship, a few years ago – pre his tattoos and piercings! Anyway, around 3.55 in this video – you can fast forward to it – a girl comes forward. After some ministry from Bentley, Todd says: Could we pick her up, I’m not done messin’ with her yet? which is a very odd thing to say, even in jest, and then there is something even odder he says about a minute later – it is like really mocking tongues or mocking ministry – Blablahblahblahblah be drunk! Blah blah blah blah blah blah - he says – what on earth is that about? It is most odd for a sincere minister to say these words and also to say them in the way he said them too – it’s like he is intentionally mocking the people and laughing at them because they will accept even  this from him. I think he could have said and done anything   then and the people would have accepted it – and he knows it. It is not just Satan laughing at this ‘revival’, Bentley is too.

It is a real eye opener. Please watch it.

May 6, 2008 - Posted by endtimespropheticwords | Antichrist, False Prophets and Teachers, Fresh Fire ministries, John Arnott, News, Prophecy, Revival, Todd Bentley, Toronto Blessing, signs and wonders | , , , , , | 33 Comments

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  1. Prophetess Miriam, I have a question and hole “YOU” will answer. Okay we got so many people who have Hell and Heaven experiences. For example’ there is Mrs. Baxter and her Divine Revelation of Heave, Hell and Rebecca Brown’s He came to Set the Captive Free, she has a heaven book, etc. But the only ones that really talked about Heaven were Jesus and John. Now Jesus being God talked about Heaven all the time cause it was His dwelling place. John spoke more indepthly about Heaven in Revelation but he was told to write the things he saw. Now I should have mentioned Paul but what he saw he was not able to say 2 Corinthians 12:2. He was caught up into the Third Heaven but was not able to mention these things he saw. I say that because we have people making millions on there experience in Heave, Hell, or Paradise. To be honest most of these modern “apostles” heaven experiences have occultic meanings. Like seeing certain colors and all that stuff. I think we have prophets for hire who may have experienced some supernatural things but of the devilish realm. So how can you tell if a person is telling the truth or what there experience is not demonic. I mean i have heard many say they saw Jesus in Heaven and God on the right Hand. How do we know…?

    Comment by Antoine Taylor | May 7, 2008

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  3. YUCK! YUCK! What is that man doing? Can somebody explain this? Greg? Anyone?

    Comment by Karina | May 7, 2008

  4. I got this off of a website called fullfilledprophecy.com, I think it was under the section called Apostasy Watch. It was put together by a poster called chatti-kathy.

    I have been watching the false healing revival that the apostate N.A.R. claims is taking place in Lakeland and Heritage, Florida. They have been holding weekly meetings at a convention hall, and over the weekend they meet at Joker Marchant Stadium. They are claiming crowds of 7,000 to 8,000 nightly from all over the world.

    Regarding stadiums, false prophet Paul Cain predicted:

    “We call it “the last days ministry,” …I believe we’re on the threshold of it…And I know the Lord is coming to His Church and he’s going to prepare us…We’re closer to it than we’ve ever been before. Who would think that there would be a group like Promise Keepers who’d already be setting the stage and filling stadiums with tens of thousands of people, …They’ll be over 100,000 in no time, and maybe they already are. I think an event’s already planned that way. So, what if God shows up at just one of those meetings? That could just be the kick-off for “last days ministry.” Think about that…What if 120,000 get together and then the fire comes from heaven and the glory of God…”

    False prophetess Stacey Campbell predicted on 1-1-08:

    “…stadiums will fill with massive gatherings of fasting and prayer, the generation prepared with signs and wonders will, like the apostles in the book of Acts, be released to preach to receptive ears…”

    An article called “The Significance of Filled Stadiums” by Ed Tarkowski, said:

    “Joel’s Army [is] now in training. . . . I believe one day soon Joel’s Army will be in training …until it graduates into the stadium. . . .

    Paul Cain claimed this was the plan of God for this generation – everybody – all denominations – because it is the plan of God for the `last of the last days.’ On a Grace Ministries tape of a talk given by Cain some years ago in Missouri, he told his audience,

    “I had a vision of you people coming from …a circle of maybe a hundred miles and I saw people coming from every major city within that circumference and a great conclave was taking place, and it was the training of Joel’s Army…I believe that people are going to come together by the thousands and train for the Army of the Lord. Wouldn’t that be wonderful? I mean, that’s long overdue.

    Prayer is the tipping point. Prayer will release both the judgments of God (see Revelation 8:3-13), and create the climate for people to call upon the Lord (see Judges 2:11-22; 3:9, 15; 4:3; 6:6, etc). The scene is being set. If there ever was a time that a nation could “be saved in a day,” now is the time. The wealth transfer has begun, the miracles are happening, the leadership has crossed over and stadiums are already being filled with tens of thousands of believers who are gathering in solemn assemblies of fasting and prayer. . . . who are consumed with passion to see a resting place for the Lord established. . . ”

    Then there is Rick Warren, who introduced his P.E.A.C.E. Plan at Angel Stadium right after he sang “Purple Haze” about an L.S.D. trip.

    Here are some excerpts from Elijah’s List, link http://www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word/6420 by Rick Joyner called
    “The History and Future of the Present Revival”

    An extraordinary move of God is now breaking out in America. The breakout in Lakeland, Florida, has been spectacular and is growing fast. We are experiencing a breakout at our base at Heritage, which in some ways has already surpassed anything we have experienced before. It, too, seems to be growing in intensity, and people are starting to come from far distances to experience it. News about other moves of God are also beginning to show up on the spiritual radar.

    …What is breaking out actually has the potential to go beyond revival. This could be the beginning of another “Great Awakening” in America, a spiritual renewal of the country that has a radical impact on the entire nation. If we stay the course, it will result in America being positioned to help prepare the way for the coming Kingdom of God. Without this awakening, we will not survive long as a great nation, but will be reduced to a shell of the superpower that we now are. It is that important.

    True revival is much more than planning a week of meetings at our local church. It is resurrection power, bringing something back to life, and that is precisely what is needed for the Church in America. Even the best churches in America need at least a renewal and a fresh move of the Holy Spirit, but most churches actually need revival–they need to be raised from the dead…

    … What is happening at Heritage was sparked by some of our students going to Lakeland, and as they were describing what they experienced in their Bible class, something like a whirlwind came into the room. Soon both of our schools, then our staff, and then parents who came to pick up their kids from school, were all caught up into what many called the most powerful presence of the Lord they had ever experienced.

    The presence of the Lord was so strong that we had to continue with nightly meetings. Now, after more than a week, this is not abating, but is still increasing. I have had many supernatural experiences, but there have been times in these meetings when the presence of the Lord was so strong that all have been gripped by fear.

    …Most of our team has experienced a lot, and have been in many previous revivals, renewals, and moves of God, but it is a bit scary to see them so scared when He comes the way He has been here. Even when the building is empty, there is a presence that sends chills down your back. We have had this many times, but not on this level. This really is different.

    What is going on here at Heritage seems to be contagious as well. We are hearing reports of people receiving emails about it, or in some cases, cell phone calls from Heritage, and they get smitten by the power of God, and something breaks out where they are. It is like coals of fire being thrown on dry wood.

    What is breaking out at Lakeland and Heritage is just the beginning of a move of God that has the potential to impact every city and town in the United States and Canada and then arc over to Europe. Before this is over, it will have made the news in possibly every nation on earth, but even more importantly, it will have impacted the worldwide Body of Christ and will actually give birth to new nations. It is the beginning of something that big.

    We need to understand Billy Graham and his ministry because it is part of the DNA of what is coming. Billy Graham is probably the greatest evangelist of the twentieth century. The spiritual DNA that he carried and imparted is a grace, dignity, and integrity that will enable the world to be able to trust what is now coming upon the earth. At about the same time as Billy Graham’s ministry was beginning, the Healing Revival broke out in America, and the nation of Israel was born…

    … The greatest revival, awakening, or move of God in America’s history is coming. If it is allowed to go its course and to do the work it is being sent to do, the Church in America will not only be left much stronger and much bigger than it has ever been, it will be a major gateway for the coming of the Kingdom of God.

    … At MorningStar, we have experienced some very remarkable and supernatural visitations, probably the most famous of which was a pillar of cloud that appeared in the middle of the stage during our first Worship and Warfare Conference, which was witnessed by more than two thousand people. We have had many other visitations of various types, some of which were quite spectacular, but there is something different about what is happening now. I think it has the potential to go far beyond anything we have ever experienced.

    However, I am not ready to call it a revival, but it is no doubt a visitation… We do have some prophetic indications that as strong as this is, the real birth will come this fall. We are therefore resolved to ride this wave as long as it is moving, but if it stops, we will too. We will then seek to learn everything we can from this powerful contraction and get ready for what I expect to be the most powerful move of God any of us have ever seen.

    There is great joy in what we are now experiencing, but at times the presence of God has been so strong that a holy terror seems to fall on the people. The testimonies of the healings and miracles are great…

    Comment by momma | May 7, 2008

  5. I just watched this clip on you tube and if this isnt a tell tell sign that this man isnt right… plus when did did his appearence change? where did all the tats and eye and chin ear rings come… This man is covered in tats, and I saw the same clip as mentioned above and he didnt have those??????

    Comment by prepare ye the way | May 7, 2008

  6. Antoine:

    How do you know whether someone’s testimony (about anything) is real? You test and weigh it against scripture first. And generally you can ask God for the gift of wisdom, of discernment distinguishing of spirits too as people’s experiences can weigh up against scripture but still be embellishments.

    I don’t think you can trust anything that comes out of the new prophetic-apostolic movement though. And almost all the most famous experiences in heaven are untrue as they are so unscriptural.

    I met two people who had genuinely died and come back, and they refused to say anything about what happened (despite my cajoling – I was then a lot younger and more immature), and barely mentioned it, as they were not allowed to. This of course added weight to their words – their testimony was always the cross, and never their experience, their ride to heaven and back, even though true.

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | May 7, 2008

  7. yea lots of bad stuff when a persons testimony/conversion is totally void of repentance or asking Jesus/God to forgive them of sin.

    Its not about mantels or anointings, its about Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

    Love,

    steve

    Comment by steve | May 7, 2008

  8. You know Miriam, that was my whole point with Paul. He never told the Corinthian church about his experience in the third heaven. That is my point. Now people writing best seller books about their experiences in heaven or hell. Now John had to write the things he saw cause he was instructed by Christ. Maybe this week I should write about me going to Paradise…(just joking)

    Comment by Antoine Taylor | May 7, 2008


  9. shocked: MALAYSIA MAKE NEW RULES FOR CHRISTIANS!!

    EVERY CHRISTIANS MUST SAY “ALLAH” RATHER THAN “GOD” & DONT SAY “TRINITY” ANYMORE..
    This is because English language not suitable anymore because the original Bible is in Arabic.

    The full story is here: ckasih.blogspot.com

    Comment by ckasih | May 7, 2008

  10. ckasih:

    It seems the link says the opposite, the Catholics wanted the right to use the word – I looked up another link and it seems Catholics or Christians must NOT say Allah to refer to God as it is a Muslim term – http://www.petertan.com/blog/2007/12/27/franchising-allah-in-malaysia/

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | May 7, 2008

  11. Jesus spat in people’s eyes

    Comment by iamchrisgreen | May 8, 2008

  12. Why don’t we just let God work it all out. Whenever there is a move of the Holy Spirit, (ie Toronto), and lets go even further back (read your Church History). There will always be people to oppose. (They opposed Jesus, Paul and all the early apostles, who moved in power. They even accused Jesus of being in league with the devil). There will always be unbelievers, Sadducees and Pharisees. I was advised in 1992, to ‘pray for discernment’. If a move is not of the Holy Spirit, it will fizzle out, if God is in the midst of it, people will be set free, healed and delivered. There will always be attention seekers, and people seeking after manifestations rather than the presence of God, as well as false prophets. Come on Christians, grow up, pray, seek God’s face for youself and LET HIM HAVE HIS WAY. Take all your thoughts and prayers to the cross. ‘Test the Word’. All we are called to do is believe in the one who was sent. JESUS, and ALL He stands for.

    Comment by Rev Dorothy Dearlove | May 8, 2008

  13. You have no idea who the True Christ is or what His true gospel and sound doctrines are if you actually think TODD BENTLEY is leading you towards them.

    Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
    Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be ACCURSED.

    Learn How to Be a False Prophet and Perform Operation Money Suck in Your Own City Too! (oh yea, and face the wrath of God later)

    youtube.com/watch?v=p9Kv7XRaKw8
    youtube.com/watch?v=6O0p4ZDnDoQ
    youtube.com/watch?v=gZ-7beRITYM&feature=related
    youtube.com/watch?v=aHIyFmJTRsM&feature=related

    Comment by anon | May 8, 2008

  14. The very first thing we should do in discerning what’s going on in Florida is stamp this verse at the top of every discussion:

    MARK 13:22 – For false Christs and false prophets will arise, and will show signs and wonders, in order to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

    So, according to the bible, when we see signs and wonders, etc. here’s what we know about it: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!

    Any time someone comments and asks a question like, “Well how can all this good stuff be happening if it’s not from God” should immediately be shown this (and other) verses that show uncategorically that signs and wonders (in and of themselves) tell us NOTHING about whether something is of God or not.

    And as for ‘just letting God sort it out’, (in other words not bringing attention to the false teaching that goes on), the bible has a word for that attitude: DISOBEDIENCE. We are commanded to discern the spirits. So when someone tells you to just let it go, what they’re actually saying is ‘don’t bother obeying God’s command to discern’.

    In addition, ever since Finney, this type of hyper-revivalism has done great damage to churches and individuals that it’s left in it’s wake, despite almost always looking great at the beginning.

    And Rev Dearlove, you might want to check out some of the rotten fruit from Toronto before you call that a ‘move of the Holy Spirit’.

    Comment by andypro | May 9, 2008

  15. PEOPLE YOU ARE BLASTING TODD BENTLEY JUST LIKE U ARE KENNETH COPELAND, JOYCE MYERS BENNY HINN ETC…. I REALLY DOUBT THAT ANY OF YOU ARE LEAD BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD TO BE DOING THIS … AND YOUR PICKING UP OLD VIDEO’S FROM YEARS AGO OFF THE GOOGLE OR YOU TUBE AND POSTING THEM ON HERE .. GOD LOVES US ALL BUT I BET YA HE IS VERY UNPLEASED WITH YOU ALL BLASTING THE MAN AND HIS MINISTRY, SO WHY DONT YALL GO FIND A DIFFERENT HOBBY….

    Comment by g rowlan | May 11, 2008

  16. I agree with Rev. Dearlove. If this Lakeland revival is not of God, it will fizzle out. If it is of God, those who speak against it are speaking against God himself. I have been at 14 of the meetings. You can feel the tangible presence of the Holy Spirit. I know personally 2 persons who have been healed. Please understand that a great majority of those in attendance now are from out of the area so I wouldn’t know them. The healings are irrefutable. No one, even from Hollywood, could make these up. In the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses, a thing is established. There are hundreds or maybe even thousands of witnesses. What does it take to make a believer out of a skeptic. Probably nothing will change their minds as long as the evangelist says “BAM” OR “SHIKABOMBA”, or has too many tatoos or doesn’t wear a suit and tie. You can’t look at the videos from “Morningstar Ministries” and tell me that this move is not of God. Don’t tell me that Satan is doing these miracles! Jesus addressed that false belief 2,000 years ago when he said “A house or kingdom divided against itself cannot stand”. God help the critics who will miss a move of God if the man of God is outside their self described Box.

    Comment by Lew Frye | May 11, 2008

  17. Lew Frye: Is there any confirmed proof of ANYBODY being healed? The only people who passes out always has a catcher behind them. You need to pray twice as hard for God to enlighten you to what’s fake and what’s not. You have your free will so you can keep believing in Todd and I’ll keep praying to God. I’ll be watching his show tonight because he really puts on a good one.

    Comment by billie | May 11, 2008

  18. Miracles are NOT THE SIGN OF A TRUE PROPHET…the devils can do miracles. It is the manner that a person handles the Word of God and lives for Him.
    Rev 13:14

    14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
    KJV
    I DO NOT SERVE A GOD THAT WOULD TELL APERSON TO GO AND GET DEMONIC TATTOOS HONORNING OTHER GODS, such as EMMA-O who in Japanese witchcraft is the GOD OF THE UNDERWORLD…Go google EMMA-O. Get Real.

    2 Cor 11:4
    For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus , whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
    KJV
    Pat Holliday

    Comment by pat holliday | May 14, 2008

  19. I am no-one but saw your message after someone called me from the Florida meeting and asked what I thought about it. I am really just kinda like a hermit in these hills so I am not up on all the latest things beyond them.
    I have looked at the web after seeing some 45 minutes on GTV of the mentioned movement. I have seen the discourse of many,.. some in fear and disdain and some for it and disdain for being questioned.
    This is what is said to me about this as I am not prone to venture out of where I am perhaps some will take HOLD on it and understand where they (we) are in this time.
    Please note. that I seek and know the God that raises the ax head, stirs the waters, heals all manner of that which is against his design..and with HIS son’s payment even has rolled back the penalty of death for those who will earn the lesson in Lazarus’ raising. We have had but sprinkles of what we will see concerning the glory off His presence and power in this age. So this was not to discredit the Power of The Holy One of Hosts nor his Son Jesus.

    People… Men and Women… In the times near the revelation of Jesus (the apocalypses) it is told for those who are his that the great delusion would be present. It is a spirit sent forth (permitted) by HIM the Father – as scripture so tells us so it is…..for the express purpose of exposing the huge structures called churches and myriads of peoples who were falsely considered brethren and sisters as NOT HIS. “They went out from us to show that they were not OF US.” Do not be dismayed. Fall on your face before the Lord of Hosts and thank him for having mercy on you and “KEEPING” you in this final hour of testing – for it will only get deeper and darker – but for a little while. For those who have pain or concern over brothers and sisters of flesh or spirit that are caught up in this. We are told plainly that “they did not love the TRUTH”. DO not fail in heart – that they are lost. It again is written that none of those He has put in His Son’s hand shall be lost to HIM… STAND where you are… “Fear them not”.
    Speak to the constriction of those spirits that operate in the ‘Hand’ of the Fallen one. For they being disobedient do continually try and move outside the bounds set for them in this age as in the one before. We are to reset them so to speak… as did our LORD…by HIS WORD.. until the time when HE not US fulfills the reaping.
    Have trust in the word given to you and speak what will be according to the same. These things are part of the small early stirrings… leaving those who went to them as empty as the BEIT-EL or ‘Houses of God’ or “churches”…that are spoken of by the prophet Amos.
    Do not think that those under such delusion can be swayed with words of reason. This is handled by the example or actions of Aaron who stood in the midst with the censer of praise and worship. Those behind him LIVED while those before him died. He did not reason with them before or behind but stood as we must stand… in the gap in the midst ..and raise the standard that cannot be breached.
    For even the wrath of Lord of Hosts was so stopped .. think not that a spiritual creation of HIS must not also be diminished in similar fashion.
    Draw the confines “ maintain them according to the WORD” that this spirit of delusion will operate in these last days… rather than watching in horror …Be of Good Cheer and marvel not at the magicians of the Pharaohs’ that abound… The Holy One, Blessed is HE – is neither remiss nor late in season… When they ask … I will send it… He says…

    Be in Peace… Have CONFIDENCE that what you set before HIM is so kept.
    These regional brides of the Fallen one and valentinian prophets and preachers are as old as the age itself nothing new… so fret not for their end is written.
    Remember THE FATHER and His Spirit will never scold you for doing as HE commanded ..And TEST every spirit… he will commend you… just do not allow these things to steal the fearful joy and humbling realization of except for the grace of GOD there go I.
    To those who say you are resisting “a holy spirit” .. hmmm…. could King Saul or his murderous cohorts resist the POWER of GOD .. NO !! when HE fell upon them with their minds and heart bent on murder… they did not loose cognition and composure nor stance but became animate with the WORD of GOD and his prophesy. A false spirit can be resisted by those who are HIS. His Spirit cannot be resisted in its work only quenched in its effectual working of making Jesus our LORD and not just a saviour.

    Please apologies for grammar and spelling…

    Mark David

    Comment by markdavid | May 15, 2008

  20. could someone please comment on those being delivered from demons in the “mighty name of Jesus”? when Jesus did this, he was asked by what power he was doing it and his response was how can satan cast out satan? a kingdom divided cannot stand.
    again, could someone please comment on the deliverance taking place in the video?
    you all seem to leave that out and just hone in on the “odd” parts.
    these are wild and radical times we live in. it will take wild and radical individuals to get done what needs to be done.
    i’m sure that john the baptist who lived in the wilderness and yelled at people and ate locusts and honey was considered pretty wild too.
    God will not be put into a box. HE uses who He wants to use and will even talk through a donkey if He so chooses.
    He knows what it will take for what is coming upon the church. It will be those who are wildly obedient and radically full of faith who will walk in the power of God as Jesus said we SHOULD.

    Comment by memyselfandI | May 26, 2008

  21. one more wild thing about God….He chose to bring the Messiah of the world in through an UNWED, TEENAGE, PREGNANT GIRL.
    amazing how God works and through whom He chooses to work, isn’t it.
    o and don’t get me started on Peter….or Rahab the harlot(found in the book of Faith, remember?) ….or David–an adulterer and accomplice to murder…..or Moses–who committed murder–….or Abraham,(for crying out loud!) who lied about his wife being his sister because he was afraid he’d be killed….
    and the list goes on….

    give me a break …..if you think God uses only perfect people…

    Comment by memyselfandI | May 26, 2008

  22. memyselfandi,
    Catholic priests can cst out demons. Jews in the book of acts who were not true followers of Christ cast out demons.
    Atleast that is what they are appearing to do. I have have seen wiccans cast out unclean spirits. I wouldn’t be so sold on a ministry as validation on that alone.

    Comment by Mary | May 26, 2008

  23. mary,
    you’re totally right in that I shouldn’t be sold on a ministry as validation on that alone.
    the blind are seeing, the deaf are hearing, souls are leaving the kingdom of darkness and coming into Light, the lame are walking, the WORD is being preached, JESUS’ NAME is being lifted HIGH, the hungry are gathering…..and don’t tell me that thousands upons thousands are ignorant, undeducated, or blind to what the scriptures say! There were over 45 people saved and baptized at my church just YESTERDAY….how many have you seen with your message here?
    Fruit… Fruit…Fruit…. a tree is KNOWN by their FRUIT … a good tree cannot produce BAD FRUIT … nor a bad tree good fruit.

    If you had been baptized in the HOly Spirit since you believed (as Paul asked)….then you would KNOW that the Spirit is truly the HOly Spirit that is doing all these things.
    And on the point of the crowd being worked up, hypnosis taking place, etc… blah, blah, blah…
    How is it then that a person not even there NOR WATCHING can receive a phone call from one who is there and RECEIVE HEALING without being worked up nor hypnotized??

    come on people… you’re grasping for straws….
    and to the lady who said she felt nothing when she went and didn’t get a healing….are we supposed to throw out the THOUSANDS of testimonies over the few that nothing happened to?? give me a break…

    stop being afraid of the Holy Spirit. He never went anywhere people! WE NEED that POWER if we’re going to be effective for God’s work!

    when Peter stood up after Pentecost and said this is what was prophesied in Joel….
    what is the “this”… well let’s see.. at Pentecost we had:
    1. tongues of fire
    2. people appearing to be drunk
    3. tongues or other languages
    4. mighty rushing wind

    so what was Peter referring to in Joel?
    oh yeah..
    your young men will dream dreams , old men visions, sons and daughters will prophesy…etc..
    oh but wait.. was Peter mistaken?? Joel didn’t say anything about what happened at Pentecost???
    that’s right.
    Although the manifestation was different at Pentecost, yet I’m sure all of the things Joel said still took place no doubt… it was still the SAME HOLY SPIRIT!!!!

    I love you guys as my brothers and sisters… but come on…. we have to pull together to battle darkness and rescue the perishing,lost and hurting…

    DON’T FORGET WHO YOUR ENEMY IS!!!!!

    and one more thing…
    read what Paul said to those who were saying there were some preaching, etc. without the proper motives.. He told them that it didn’t matter.. the Gospel was being preached and for this I rejoice.
    and when the disciples complained to Jesus that some were casting out demons in His name yet were not one of THEM… Jesus said “whoever is not against me is for me”…

    remember who your enemy is!!!

    Comment by memyselfandI | May 27, 2008

  24. MarkDavid,
    I tried to read your post but a red flag immediately went up when I re-read your first paragraph:
    ***********************************
    “I am no-one but saw your message after someone called me from the Florida meeting and asked what I thought about it. I am really just kinda like a hermit in these hills so I am not up on all the latest things beyond them.”
    **************************

    A “no-one” ???? You are a child of the Most High God!!
    You carry the DNA of your FATHER!
    I just want to implore you to come out of those hills!!! There’s work to do!! there are people dying out there! there are babies being slaughtered daily! there are children that no one wants and that are being molested and exploited in record numbers! there are those without hope!!
    If you cannot because of physical problems then BE HEALED in Jesus’ Name and get busy for God!
    As long as there’s air in our lungs, we should be shining our light into darkness!

    If you truly have the Holy Spirit in you then the world NEEDS WHAT YOU HAVE! don’t hide it under a bushel ….
    the only reason I can speak this is because I was once a hermit but soon realized how wrong that was. A Christian is not permitted that luxury.

    Join the war and fight for your brothers and sisters who don’t know that Jesus came to set them free!!

    I love you MarkDavid, but I really feel that the Holy Spirit moved me to tell you that..

    Comment by memyselfandI | May 27, 2008

  25. I’ll say it again for those who keep quoting the verse in Matthew “If Satan cast out Satan, then how shall his kingdom stand?”

    Do YOU think that Satan’s kingdom will stand? What was the Lord trying to tell the people who accused Him? I have read the end of the book. The lake of fire is the devil’s ultimate home. The devil knows this. He wants to deceive you and take you there with him. Let NO man deceive you. God will not be mocked!

    Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to me ‘Lord,Lord’ (they call Him Lord!) will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy IN YOUR NAME, and IN YOUR NAME drive out demons, and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly ‘I never knew you. Away from me you evildoers.”

    I pray that these people are undeceived.

    Comment by cheryl | May 27, 2008

  26. MemyselfandI,
    Yeah, but all those people you listed besides mary (who had not committed adultery against her betrothed husband) all were corrected and repented of their sins.

    David didn’t keep committing adultery and murdering husbands and he lost a child because of it. He went to God with deep regret and remorse.
    Rahab was a harlot…but do you think she kept up her profession after seeing God’s work, doubt it?

    Moses also did not continue being a pharaoh in training after the murder…he ran away and lived in the desert for 40 years, being humbled and learning how to look after sheep.

    Abraham repented of lying about his wife as God corrected him on that as well.

    Yes, we all sin..but as I tell my daughter…”you always have a choice, good or bad, and if you make the wrong choice..what are you going to do to fix your mistake?” Right your wrong. Don’t sit there and say “The devil made me do it, or I’m just a sinner and can’t help myself.” Wahhhh! We all have a choice, we all have the ability to make the right choice…we just choose the wrong one most of the time because it’s easier, will feel good, or we’re just plain disobedient.

    I would start with asking God for forgiveness then going about what it took to make right of my offense.

    No one’s saying Todd can’t be used. It’s more about saying he could be used by God but he’s abusing his authority and not even blinking at being corrected. He could care less if he’s being false and called out on it.

    That is the big problem. You should have a problem with someone who doesn’t have a problem with lying to you and never taking accountability for it.

    Comment by servant | May 27, 2008

  27. Anybody who comes along and tells tall tales about being able at will to ascend to the 3rd heavens (and beyond) is automatically a liar and a blasphemer. Like claiming Jesus took off his crown and ring and cast them at the feet of the bride. That is saying God is now worshiping man. That is rank blasphemy and most likely just a plain old whooper lie. You don’t need to know more than that to know to stay away from this kook. There’s a whole lot of other stuff like occultic tattoos he has recently gotten and his horrible teaching that you can buy the gift of God with money. You don’t need more than that my friend. He is of the devil whether you like it or not, and no matter how many verses out of the bible you throw around. Bad news.

    Comment by Louis | May 27, 2008

  28. Oops, sorry for calling him a kook and of the devil: too harsh and unloving.

    Comment by Louis | May 28, 2008

  29. This outpouring is way past and way larger than Todd Bentley at this point… so now what is everyone going to do and talk about? Should we check out the 10 year old boy who laid hands on a man last night (Fri. May 30) who was healed miraculously and dropped his cane and walked away whole? Poor deceived little boy! someone should’ve told him that he was working under the power of the demonic! (give me a break)

    If Todd died tomorrow.. this thing would continue exploding.
    It’s time. The Church is in an awakening.
    This is about the Church finally knowing who she is….and the darkness is trembling because of it….

    of course, there will be (already is) a backlash… I expect the enemy to do anything he can to shut down the airways over this. I expect natural rulers in high places to get geared up for “war”… I’ve read the last book in the Bible too.
    Pick your side.
    False, dead, cold head-knowledge only religion that possesses a form of godliness but denies the power thereof?
    Or
    The Church ALIVE, THRIVING, and WALKING IN THE POWER WE ARE SUPPOSED TO WALK IN.
    Luke 9:2
    “and He sent them out to preach the kingdom of God AND to heal the sick.”
    6: “So they set out and went from village to village, preaching the gospel and healing people EVERYWHERE.”

    Comment by memyselfandI | May 31, 2008

  30. Alright my turn to stand up and fight for what is right. I was one who went to these meetings and yes felt the tangible power of God there. As of a matter of fact I saw visions for my life. So let me set the background before the visions. I’ve been a type 1 diabetic for oh 8 years almost. This year 3 times I slipped into diabetic commas and had to be revived from the perimedics yes I have documentation on this too. Well I went to the meetings the first night I could feel God but I was really tired from being up 17 hrs. But I said I expect God to do something. The next night, I begun to stir myself up, I begun to pray in other tongues to really kick it up a notch really seek God and what he had for me. As one person was healed and recieved a new pacreas and healed of diabetes bam, I mean BAM!!! God hit me like a bolt of lightning, I never felt so much Joy in years, I saw (first vision) God’s hand crafting a new pancreas for me and said here son for you. Then God started dealing with a second miricle too. In my spirit the Lord said, “The devil is a liar.” And I couldn’t stop laughing at this because freedom broke out in me. Second vision was of a deamon of death that has tried to strike me down. Well I saw huge angles tackle this ugly beast and bind him in chains. I then heard the Lord saying cursed be you deamon of death back to hell where you belong never to return again. Joy was strong, well I guess the the word is powerful for it says the Joy of the Lord is my Strength. Well I was also healed of diabetes too, no more needles no more insulin I have Freedom. But as you would say I was healed by Satan. You sound just like the pharisses when they plotted to kill My saviour Jesus. I see that you also are attacking Todd so much. Shame on you and woe to for such a thing. Read this, James 2
    A Warning against Prejudice
    1 My dear brothers and sisters,[a] how can you claim to have faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ if you favor some people over others?
    2 For example, suppose someone comes into your meeting[b] dressed in fancy clothes and expensive jewelry, and another comes in who is poor and dressed in dirty clothes. 3 If you give special attention and a good seat to the rich person, but you say to the poor one, “You can stand over there, or else sit on the floor”—well, 4 doesn’t this discrimination show that your judgments are guided by evil motives?

    5 Listen to me, dear brothers and sisters. Hasn’t God chosen the poor in this world to be rich in faith? Aren’t they the ones who will inherit the Kingdom he promised to those who love him? 6 But you dishonor the poor! Isn’t it the rich who oppress you and drag you into court? 7 Aren’t they the ones who slander Jesus Christ, whose noble name[c] you bear?

    8 Yes indeed, it is good when you obey the royal law as found in the Scriptures: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”[d] 9 But if you favor some people over others, you are committing a sin. You are guilty of breaking the law.

    10 For the person who keeps all of the laws except one is as guilty as a person who has broken all of God’s laws. 11 For the same God who said, “You must not commit adultery,” also said, “You must not murder.”[e] So if you murder someone but do not commit adultery, you have still broken the law.

    12 So whatever you say or whatever you do, remember that you will be judged by the law that sets you free. 13 There will be no mercy for those who have not shown mercy to others. But if you have been merciful, God will be merciful when he judges you.

    Ok so he has tattoos big deal, piercings also, he made some mistakes. Let me remind you his age 32, he’s young like me, well I’m younger, but who cares. The man has an anointing you can see it in his eyes. I’ve seen christians and you can feel in your spirit that they are bornagain before you talk to them. I know deamon possed people to and you can feel that in your spirit as well, You’d be a fool to say that I can’t test the spirits which I have and found nothing wrong with this man, he’s covered under the blood of Jesus even as I. If you look at Paul in his ministry early he would always say that he was such a grand apostle of Jesus but as he matured he would state how much of a sinner he was. Todd is still maturing, I don’t agree with all the teaching, but what ministry do I at all. Like I learned in Bible Collage eat the hay spit out the sticks. You’ve pulled up irrevalent material that is dated and in the past. Well my God says to go forward and not go back. THe past is a bondage to drag you down look to the present and the future of what is happening. If for a moment you could see what type of fire is breaking out you would rejoice. But because you can’t and you’re entitled to you opinions, let me tell you pull out the log in your own eye before trying to take the speck out of some one else’s. Let me say this too, if you find fault in a person take it before them by your selves. There is order to correction people. Also you people who say that people will do things in the name of the Lord well let me say this Read Jn 10:10 ” The thief’s purpose is to steal and kill and destroy. My purpose is to give them a rich and satisfying life.” Well Tell me how satan is using this man to steal, kill and destroy. For one Salvation that was once lost to thousands is being given back. Two People are being raised from the dead, people with all types of incurable diseases are being healed. And three, the church that has been so long ravaged with destruction and no form of unity is being unified. Well I know this doesn’t come from Todd but by the power of God through him. If there is wrong in him let God clean him. Who’s the potter and who’s the clay? Come on people you should know this. God called us to catch the fish and he’ll clean them. The fruit is good, come get some, and do so expecting. I love you all. The truth is hard to swallow at times. But if you call me blind yes is true blinded by the Glory of God.

    Comment by Nathan Kniess | June 2, 2008

  31. Does anyone know of a site that has this audio available?

    Bentley’s Source of Power
    We don’t have to play a guessing game to discern the source of Bentley’s power over undiscerning people. His own testimony reveals how he reportedly tapped into the spirit realm for the key to do signs and wonders.

    In one of his “Fresh Fire” classes called “The Secret Place” (circa 2005, CD on file), Bentley takes his followers to Psalm 91 for his proof-text in examining how to get power.

    [His voice on these tapes is very eerie – it is indistinguishable from a cult leader by the name of Anthony Marcolongo, a demonized "prophet" who back in the late 1980s abused his flock and molested his female followers. His tyranny came to an end when he was killed in a one-car crash and his body, along with his car, were wrapped around a tree.]

    Comment by laura | June 3, 2008

  33. Hey Cheryl you call him Lord too don’t you????? Think about it!!!

    Comment by Jeff | July 5, 2008


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