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Che Ahn on Todd Bentley – a double portion of William Branham’s anointing

Che Ahn who Todd Bentley says in the following video has an ‘apostolic anointing’ on him – by that Todd Bentley means Che Ahn pays a regular expensive subscription fee to C Peter Wagner to be in his New Apostolic Reformation network of apostles – (almost anyone can be an apostle if they pay enough and they apostasise enough and kiss up enough to the powers that be – and by the ‘powers that be’ I do not mean GOD), prophesies over Todd Bentley that:

‘There’s a Branham anointing on you, a double portion of it’    which Todd Bentley’s spirit apparently greatly witnesses to, hence his ’spiritual’ manifestations at around 1.47 in this video as Che Ahn speaks it over him.

We all know by now Todd Bentley’s fixation and adulation with William Branham, claiming Branham’s healing angels and mantle and plagarising his prophesies and on on. But this video tells us more about what’s really going on down.

It is very troubling that Che Ahn speaks as he does, and Todd Bentley witnesses to the prophecy as he does, bearing in mind William Branham was a liar, a false prophet and a false healer. See here: http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/todd-bentley-and-william-branham-share-the-same-healing-mantle/   and also here: http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/02/13/william-branham-prophet-of-the-latter-rain/ 

If we accept these manifestions as being ’spiritual’ (and not faked as Todd Bentley does very obviously fake manifestations sometimes), then it is troubling because the Holy Spirit would not testify to William Marion Branham, prophet of the Latter Rain, far less his mantle which was antichrist. Therefore if Todd Bentley’s spirit or spirits are loving this prophecy, then they are obviously not of God but of the antichrist. If Che Ahn’s spirit loves this prophecy, his spirit he prophesies by does not belong to God but of the antichrist. Do you really want an antichrist spirit imparted to you by these men laying their hands on you?

If these spiritual manifestations are not spiritual but are faked instead, Barnum style, then that says a lot about Todd Bentley’s integrity or lack of it. If this prophecy that cause the manifestations is not spiritual but faked also (as some of these prophets do lie to boost each others egos) then it says a lot about Che Ahn’s lack of integrity and wisdom, and also the lack of wisdom, discernment and integrity in C Peter Wagner’s new apostles’ and prophets’ network he is linked with. Again do you really want anything to do with fakes or charlatans, far less recieve their Barnum style fake impartations and prophecies?

If the manifestations are subconciously done in the flesh alone and are not of God, but the people manifesting are being deeply sincere and think them to be godly, then they still  show Todd Bentley’s lack of wisdom and discernment (both about William Branham and about the nature and source of his manifestations and the manifestations he imparts to others, see here http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/glory-flakes-gold-dust-appears-at-revival-fires-dudley-outpouring/ )    If Che Ahn’s vision is merely from the flesh, likewise, it shows Che Ahn does not discern properly between flesh and spirit and lacks wisdom and falsely speaks for God his own thoughts or desires.  Do you really want to be imparted with just fleshly manifestations from unwise and undiscerning teachers that have no substance to them? Some outpouring and revival that is!

Whichever way you look at it then, this testimony and this prophecy puts both Todd Bentley and Che Ahn in a terrible light.

May 15, 2008 - Posted by endtimespropheticwords | C Peter Wagner, Che Ahn, False Prophets and Teachers, Fresh Fire ministries, Healing, Latter Rain, New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), Peter Wagner, Prophecy, Todd Bentley, William Branham, signs and wonders | , , , , , , | 12 Comments

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  1. I have firsthand experience with the teachings of William Branham (the highly touted ‘prophet to the gentiles’ whom has been dead and gone for 40 or so years) but his faithless followers (faithful to him however) keep putting out the tapes and books. It is so very sad that the Kansas City Prophets, lacking any sort of real spiritual discernment, resurrected his unholy spirit and false, poisonous doctrines and trump it out as ’something new’ and holy. Bentley actually believes he is led by the angel that corresponded with Branham (named Emma apparently) which, no doubt he is. Bentkley is a down right fool in every biblical and literal sense of the word! I will testify first hand that the fruit of that spirit that ran Branham is oppression, sexism, racist, mocking, unscriptural, bondage (physical and spiritual), perverted, unholy, graven images of self, self empowerment, lust for power and glory, more fear, respecters of positions, full of hatred for outsiders and each other.

    All and any doctrines associated with Branham (Manchild, Serpent Seed, Latter Day Rain, Joels Army, Sons of Manifest , 5-Fold Ministry…etal) are suspect, by default, of counterfeit spirituality. Branham and Oral Roberts buddied across America for some time basically reinventing hype and hysteria in charismatic circles, totally rejected by most pentecostals as heretic including the Assembly of God. Roberts and Branham separated due to greed and pride not mixing well. At the same time, AW Tozer (a real minister of the Lord), headed north to Canada to “get away from the insanity going on in the ‘crusades’ happening in American charismatic and pentecostal churches” infected by these insanities and false manifestations of the 40 and 50’s and early 60’s.

    Branhams venon and poisonous pottage has spiritually entrapped generations of people now whom have been taught to fear man and angels more than God, faith in works alone, and more horrendous apparitions of false teachings you can find Paul and James and Peter, John and Jesus personally exposing, commenting on, warning against and rebuking, and now these mislead people are unable to think rationally and reasonably due to a lie that to do so would a ’sin against the Spirit’. It is pure cultic in every sense. Not a big difference from the FLDS as been depicted on TV. It might be possible, though I doubt it, some Branhamites may have become more liberal now and allow TV’s and possibly might allow women to trim their hair and wear pants once in a while. Communal for a longtime, seperated and the whole nine yards. Under Brahnams direct deceptive rule, they lived everyday waiting for rapture and in utter bondage and fear to his very words and whims and attitudes and actions. Following Branham was following Jesus himself so they thought and think. Why, he proclaimed himself the 7th angel in revelations! They believe it to this very day! He presented himself as Christ either implicantly or directly. He called himself or intimated himself as the forerunner of Jesus, Elijah himself. He boasted more power than even the Apostles! When Branham died, they congregated expecting the rapture at any moment. Very sad. Not much different than the Joseph Smith doctrines and episode. Same things, different generations.

    People! God wants us to reason with Him! If you have questions or fears or doubts, please, please talk with Him. He will not destroy you with eternal damnation if you dare ask Him questions about these things! The god of Branham might breathe these threats, but not Jesus Christ. Big difference.

    Branham and the rest who are created in his image are all false prophets and any ‘minister’ causing believers to accept these lies they spew are guilty of ‘teaching my servants to eat things sacrificed unto idols’ which is what happend in Num 25 ‘ baalpeor episode. Read it, understand it! The real Spirit of God can not be bought, transported and/or imparted on whomever you chose. Dont buy (literally and metaphorically) this load of crap! Bentley, Styne, DeLuca, the KC Prophets, Bob Jones, Cain (Branhams most faithful follower until the late 50’s) and the rest of them are cut from the same image. Flee idolatry! Return to God Almighty! Humble yourself to the Lordship of Christ Jesus! Repent and be healed for real if you’ve been snagged by this old rusty hook of lies!

    Comment by RS | May 23, 2008

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  4. Bentley, Che Ahn, and those other guys on the beach said a wave came up to their feet when they referred to a “third wave”…. I think God was giving them a warning sign saying that He was going to drown them if they keep mocking Him with their charismatic b u l l s h i t phony miracles and false doctrines.

    Comment by TG | June 11, 2008

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  6. Che Ahn is not considered a prophet because he “pays a fee” as you say, but rather because he and his leaders have helped plant thousands of churches for the Kingdom of God. Now what have you done for Christ? From what I have read on your website you do nothing but scold and throw dirt at ministers. Wow…you are treading very dangerous ground. All will be revealed, though…all will be revealed.

    Comment by Timothy | July 4, 2008

  7. Todd Bentley is Jesus to the prophetic “apostles?”

    At 2:00 into this: We Must Decrease, Todd Must Increase

    Comment by Geoff Marchon | July 4, 2008

  8. Yeah says it all

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | July 4, 2008

  9. Timothy,
    It’s not about works. Surely a prophet can only be a prophet if he prophesies 100% correctly in line with the word of God and encourages people to worship the God of the Bible [see verses below]. Has Che Ahn met this exacting Biblical standard? He only has to miss on one point to fail.

    But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

    Deut 18:20-22 (KJV)

    1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. 5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
    Deut 13:1-5 (KJV)

    Comment by Eve | July 4, 2008

  10. Dear Timothy:

    That is so funny that you just wrote in about Che Ahn’s Church plantings.

    I have already written up about Che Ahn’s planting of The Gateway in Hollywood for my own church that is under Che and I am desperately trying to get them out before this Delusion overtakes their faith and Love.

    But let’s see. Oh yes. The Gateway. The church that Cindy Jacobs, Jill Austin, and others of this Apostolic Prophetic Cult prophesied glorious things over them ONE WEEK before Che pulled the Baal worshipping Pastor from the pulpit. Yet, these so called “Generals of Intercession” DID NOT SEE THE PERVERSION ON THE PASTOR THEY WERE PROPHESYING OVER ONE WEEK BEFORE CHE WAS FORCED BECAUSE OF LAWSUITS TO PULL THIS PASTOR DOWN?

    CHE STUPIDLY PUT THIS MAN UP FOR LEADERSHIP BECAUSE HE HAD SO MUCH CASH? THIS WAS A TRAVESTY. A BLIGHT UPON HARVEST ROCK AND EVERYONE ELSE INVOLVED. THE SHEEP THERE WERE SLAUGHTERED BECAUSE CHE AND CINDY AND JILL DID NOTHING AND CARED NOTHING FOR THE SHEEP.

    Oh, yeah. There was ONE sheep I’m sure was cared for. Cindy Jacob’s son who went there. It was supposed to be a Hollywood Church and I gather, another secret of all these middle aged parents and housewives leading the Apostolic Prophetic Cult out here in LA, that they are just using God as a new way to be the old time Hollywood “backstage mother” who pushes their kids into “Show BIz” — but now people do it with false prophecy and in the name of the LORD??!!!!

    Such brazen selfishness on the part these “leaders”, such as Che, with kids eager to be celebs.

    This Gateway Scandal was all before my time in 2004 but the Lord told me my own church would be attacked by the Enemy the same way the Gateway was attacked (in late 2006) so I made some phone calls to see what it was the Lord was saying to me. Briefly, the Lord spoke to me and said that the problem was not about The Gateway’s sin of homosexuality on the Pastor, it was about the FALSE PROPHECIES SPOKEN OVER HIM THAT WOULD CAUSE HIM TO BE PUFFED UP AND BOW DOWN TO THE IDOL OF HIS OWN PROMISE IN GOD as per Deut. 13.

    The Lord said the only way to guard against False Prophets is to do what Abraham did –take the Knife to His promise in God — Abraham took the knife to his Promise — his son Isaac. This is the only way to protect ourselves from False Prophets who give out flattering lies and smooth sayings — preach peace peace and prosperity when there is none. Cindy Jacobs and Jill Austen committed a travesty with Che Ahn over this little church plant. They cowardly did not help the precious new borns in Christ there. The sin of the Pastor, which was Baal worship by God’s definition, is wrong, but guess what? IT WAS BROUGHT ON BY TOO MUCH HOOPLA OF THE FALSE PROPHESIES SPOKEN OVER HIM.

    Jezebel, the false prophet, always tries to prophesy her own destiny. These false teachers like Che and Cindy actually believe they can create God’s destiny with their “prophetic” words. I have one question for them. By what authority does Cindy Jacobs think she has over the Entertainment industry that she can pray over people there the way she does? One has to have authority in order to pray the way she does over creative types. Cindy has NO authority to pray over the industry. And, what authority does she have to pray “for the nations”? She is not Margaret Thatcher. She is a housewife from Texas. Only Jezebel dares prophecy their own son’s future.

    I know the details of Che’s scandal at The Gateway. Do you, Timothy? And if you know anything, the details are much worse than you can imagine, and I am talking about things like perversion mixed with demonic stigmata in order to seduce young men all under the banner, indeed even with the boombox blaring, the smooth words of the false prophetesses of the Apostolic Prophetic Cult.

    Comment by AriseMyLove | July 4, 2008

  11. http://www.scribd.com/doc/4022131/TODD-BENTLEYS-PASTOR-PATRICIA-KING-THE-BLUE-FLAME-QUEEN-BLATANTLY-EVIL-
    TODD BENTLEY’S PASTOR ~PATRICIA KING ~THE BLUE FLAME QUEEN ~ BLATANTLY EVIL ~ INVITES YOU TO STEP THROUGH A DEMONIC PORTAL INTO AN ILLUSIONARY LAND OF THE ESOTERIC ~ FULL OF PAGAN REVELRY AND IMMORALITY ~ DEMOTES JESUS CHRIST ~ RAISING THE GOD PAN TO NEW WORLD PAGAN RELIGION ~ MYSTICAL WITCHCRAFT ~ THROUGH EKSTASIS WORSHIP ~ Once pagan, always pagan!
    Charles Williams wrote in Witchcraft, “It is cold, it is hungry, it is violent, it is illusory. The warm blood and intercourse at the Sabbat do not satisfy it. It wants something more . . . It wants souls.”
    Pagan festival ~ Holy Ghost Party ~ Gatekeepers ~ Portals, Wormholes Star Gates ~ Tribal Dancing ~ WELCOME TO OUR CHURCH LEADERS OF TODAY!
    The Mystic Dance of the Other Jesus
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/4022131/TODD-BENTLEYS-PASTOR-PATRICIA-KING-THE-BLUE-FLAME-QUEEN-BLATANTLY-EVIL-
    SUPERNATURAL POWER
    Psychics, New Agers, mediums, Satanists, those who follow the occult and spiritualists are seeking power. They are looking for supernatural ways to improve conditions of possessing greater power over the minds of the average human being. They are bringing an onslaught of counterfeit faiths, including the pursuit of witchcraft and Satanism.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52ACWzbuMBU&feature=related
    Lakeland/Bentley Tribal Dance
    “Trance dances, ritualistically opens her third eye, and then mimes shooting gun at audience. 06-04-08 Meeting … Todd Bentley Lakeland Florida Outpouring…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-YXHSz1sME

    Worship Leader: DJ CALEB
    Patricia King, Pat have you seen this…Patricia King’s Dance club…”Club Mysterio”…It looks soo pagan… IT IS . . . Shambhala Trance Stage 1/2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxDebb9dLKY&feature=related
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/4014903/AVATAR-TODD-BENTLEY-PETER-WAGNER-rick-joyner-bentleys-COMING-BACK-TO-LAKELAND-JULY-18-

    Comment by patpat holliday | July 21, 2008

  12. I have been most intrigued by this whole ‘fresh fire ministries’ saga and their ‘Outpourings’ (Capital O !) and have been waiting for the climactic self-destruct to happen…
    Either I am sadly mistaken, or ’someone’ with a LOT of clout has ‘pulled’ TB out of the limelight – probably because he has WAY overstepped his mandate to spread the most heinous and deceitful false teachings since the garden of Eden and more than likely because he has been hogging all the glory for himself. I am sure that his 3 angels, ‘emma’, ‘promise’ and ‘winds of change’ are not at all pleased with their puppet…
    How much damage has been done remains to be seen, but thank God (the Father), we do all know how this will end.

    Comment by Ken Everett | August 14, 2008


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