Index to all articles on Todd Bentley, Lakeland Outpouring Florida Revival
Lies and Deceit and Greed coming out from Lakeland
Contradictions from the lying prophet that he lied. The Proof is here of lies and embellishments
Todd Bentley caught on camera being fraudulent at Lakeland! He lies and lets other lie to millions - why? Caught on Camera
Lying to the Media about getting his tattoos and piercings pre conversion here
Contradictions in yet another angel story Healing Revival contradiction
And yet more contradictions re angels, mantles and saints angels, mantles and saints
More lies and Cover Ups re angels – now denies ever believing Emma is a female angel, and other lies about the Healing Angel associated with Branham here
Why did Todd Bentley let Paul Cain lie to millions? Link Here
More lies, cover ups, deception – Paul Cain, Todd Bentley, Steve Strader Link Here
Yet more lies, cover-ups and excuses from Stephen Strader Here
The contradiction about Todd Bentley’s Mother’s death Here
Todd Bentley Healing Revival – in search of a miracle there Here
Little Girl Raised from the Dead – or Not? Here
Man proclaimed healed at Lakeland by Todd Bentley dies one week later Here
When healing isn’t really healing. The other side of the camera at Lakeland here
Why is Bob Jones and Todd Bentley not healed? Here
Strange manifestations on Fresh Fire website! Here
Angel Emma officially dumped as she was an embrassment here and lied about and denied here
1940s/1950s angel also lied about here
Todd Bentley prophesying and doing some bad cold reading Here
Fake laughter Here
Todd Bentley & Bob Jones proclaim the third wave is here and contradict themselves Here
Proof this was manipulated by man here
Contradiction in Jesus vision http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/exactly-what-does-jesus-look-like-todd-bentley-and-why-do-your-visions-contradict/
Todd Bentley – buy what you want from God Here
A den of thieves and robbers Here
Todd Bentley & Bob Jones self serving and self fulfilling prophecies Here
An angel named Ralph here
Prosperity angels only work one way – when the ministers want your money here
Beware of Yeti footprints here
Contradicting himself re the anointing here
Manipulative Worship here
Todd demands a prophet’s reward here
Manipulative Propheteers here
Prophetic movement now start to remove angel Emma from their sites here
Walking Adverts http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/walking-adverts-or-not-for-todd-bentleys-healing-revival/
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Jesus, get off your throne and onto your knees! here
Todd Bentley calls for an antichrist Jesus to arise – The Manifestation of the Sons of God here
Second Coming Antichrist Jesus to make Appearance on Lakeland Stage here
Todd recieves praise due only to God http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/praising-todd-bentley-lakeland-video-re-raising-from-the-dead/
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Finances
Todd Bentley – buy what you want from God Here
A den of thieves and robbers Here
Prosperity angels only work one way – when the ministers want your money here
Todd demands a prophet’s reward here
Manipulative Propheteers here
Raiding Coins from Heaven here
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Accounts of Lakeland meetings/testimonies
Healings & Prophecy at Florida Revival Lakeland Outpouring Meetings with Todd Bentley Here
Todd Bentley, altar calls at the Lakeland Outpouring – real evangelism, real salvation? Here
A firsthand account from Todd Bentley Lakeland Revival on Mother’s Day Here
Todd Bentley Revival in Lakeland – An Email From ‘A Lakeland Resident’ Here
A healing testimony from the Todd Bentley Lakeland Florida Outpouring Here
Todd Bentley ministering in Auburndale/Lakeland Florida Here
Firsthand testimony from a Todd Bentley Fresh Fire Ministries Conference Here
My visit to the Lakeland Revival here
Manipulative Worship here
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Todd Bentley’s prophecies or odd doctrine
Todd Bentley prophesying and doing some bad cold reading Here
Contradictions from the lying prophet that he lied. The Proof is here
Jesus, get off your throne and onto your knees! here
Second Coming Antichrist Jesus to make Appearance on Lakeland Stage here
Todd Bentley and Sadhu Sundar Singh Here
Todd Bentley – buy what you want from God Here
Todd Bentley’s Mother, her death the seed for healing anointing & miracles Here
Video of Todd Bentley talking about beating up the flock Here
Winds of Change Angel squeezing, shooting & bursting in the stratosphere Here
Todd Bentley and the Shekinah Glory Cloud Here
Todd Bentley like the Most High, as a Lofty, Supreme Ruler Here
Buy the fruit of the Spirit! Comes cheap without much price to be paid Here
Todd Bentley, altar calls at the Lakeland Outpouring – real evangelism, real salvation? Here
Angelic abduction Here
Blah Blah Blah Mocking Ministry
Todd knees someone in stomach Abusive Moves
Angels messing around and white light Here
Let’s all learn to love, forget the cross! Here
Geographical portals and open heavens Bad doctrine here
A New Breed, Joel’s Army, the Joseph Company, the MELCHIZEDEK Order Here
The angelic, the third heaven, and spiritual warfare Here
Angel Emma Here
Outpouring Must Go Through Native American Gatekeepers here
A vision from Todd Bentley during a third heaven experience where he met Paul and Abraham Here
Heaven Can’t Wait – A Survey of Alleged Trips to the Other Side Here
Healing gifts recieved from lightning strike & blue flame Here
John Arnott, angels and backpacks Here
Elijah List (that Todd Bentley is on) says Psychics are Lost Prophets
if Paul Cain is a heritic by Strader’s admission, what is Bentley? here
Joan of Arc and Aimee Semple McPherson Mantles here
A healing word of knowledge here
Todd and Bob’s Anointed kidneys here
Whose Power and Whose Glory – and Whose Pride? here
Spiritualism or Necromancy angels, mantles and saints
Another gospel here
Awesome signs and wonders predicted do not show up here
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Todd Bentley and his related angels
Breakthrough Revival
Emma Here and Angel Emma officially dumped as she was an embrassment here and lied about and denied here and More lies and Cover Ups re angels – now denies ever believing Emma is a female angel, and other lies about the Healing Angel associated with Branham here
Grace as prophesied by Bob Jones on 13th May meeting here
Healing Revival – more contradictions in another angel story here
Miracles
Prosperity angel that only works one way – when the ministers want your money here
Signs
Swift here
Winds of Change Angel Here and here
Wonders
Angelic abduction Here
Angels messing around Here
“ANGELS” & the FLORIDA HEALING REVIVAL - Warning! Here
Healing angels are in popular demand these days Here
William Branham’s angels Here and lies about the Healing Angel associated with Branham here
The angelic, the third heaven, and spiritual warfare Here
John Arnott, angels and backpacks Here
An angel named Ralph here
And yet more contradictions re angels, mantles and saints angels, mantles and saints
1940s/1950s angel also lied about here
Don Pirozok Blue Lightning from the angels
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Healing
Healing gifts recieved from lightning strike & blue flame Here and Blue Lightning from the angels
Man proclaimed healed at Lakeland by Todd Bentley dies one week later Here
When healing isn’t really healing. The other side of the camera at Lakeland here
Video of Todd Bentley talking about beating up the flock to get them healed Here
Word of knowledge at a healing revival here
Whose Power and Whose Glory – and Whose Pride? here
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Supernatural Manifestations and Spiritual Gifts
Contradictions from the lying prophet that he lied about his own experiences. The Proof is here
A hungry man running after God – on amazing spiritual experiences Here
Video of Todd Bentley talking about beating up the flock Here
Watch Todd Bentley laughing at the Lakeland Healing Revival Here
Navigating through the minefield of signs and wonders by Derek Prince Here
The anointing of the Spirit and evangelism Here
IS IT SAFE TO ASSUME THAT EVERY HEALING, MIRACLE AND REVIVAL IS FROM GOD? Here
Healing gifts recieved from lightning strike & blue flame Here
A Christless Pentecost, a warning, by David Wilkerson & Frank Bartleman – Here
A warning about signs and wonders, spiritual manifestations & the new anointing Here
Is Todd Bentley’s Lakeland Outpouring like the Day of Pentecost? Here
My experience on the Pentecostal/Charismatic Healing Circuit Here
The Religious Affections – wisdom for today from three hundred years ago Here
Satan’s tactics. Renewal, Revival, Outpouring and a Grand Distraction Here
The most fruitless mission ever Here
Mainfestations like Kundalini Here
MOST “CONTAGIOUS” ANOINTING – Florida - WARNING Here
Trance States and the Florida Revival Lakeland Outpouring Here
The Toronto Blessing….or curse? Here
Signs & Wonders – Bizarre spiritual manifestations Here
Testing the gift of tongues, what are you afraid of if you do Here
Lying signs and wonders – gold dust and jewels Here
Alice in Wonderland here
Secondary Drowning here
Anointed Kidneys here
Contradicting himself re the anointing here
Manipulative Worship here
Outpouring Must Go Through Native American Gatekeepers here
Whose Power and Whose Glory – and Whose Pride? here
Raiding Coins from Heaven here
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Todd Bentley’s spiritual heros
Aimee Semple McPherson here
Bob Jones Todd Bentley on Bob Jones of the Kansas City Prophets Here and vision re Bob Jones here and anointed kidneys and Outpouring Must Go Through Native American Gatekeepers here
Frenchie, a Catholic Charismatic here
Joan of Arc here
Paul Cain Stephen Strader now says Paul Cain is a heritic here
Sadhu Sundar Singh Here
Smith Wigglesworth Here
William Branham Here and William Branham’s healing mantle Here and angels, mantles and saints angels, mantles and saints
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Todd Bentley Associates, Mentors & Companions
Bob Jones Here and Here and Todd Bentley & Bob Jones self serving and self fulfilling prophecies Here Here Todd Bentley & Bob Jones proclaim the third wave is here And Todd Bentley on Bob Jones of the Kansas City Prophets and Here Bob Jones speaks about healing And Bob Jones healing gifts recieved from lightning strike & blue flame and vision re Bob Jones here and Outpouring Must Go Through Native American Gatekeepers here
Bobby Conner Emerging Kingdom Company and Outpouring Must Go Through Native American Gatekeepers here
Bobby Sullivan
Brian Lake
Brian Madden (Elim, Belfast) here
Buford Dowell here
C Peter Wagner and NAR http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/videos-of-c-peter-wagners-apostles-prophets-commissioning-todd-bentley/ and http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/06/26/joyner-wagner-arnott-commission-todd-bentley/
Charlie Robinson
Che Ahn Here in Maidenhead and Here on William Branham anointing
Craig Kinsley
David Bentley (Todd’s father) here
David Herzog here
David Tomberlin
Denny Cline, Albany Vineyard, Oregon Here
Don Pirozok Blue Lightning from the angels
Elijah List Lost psychics
Heather Clark here
Ivan Roman
James Levesque
Jeff Garvin
Jerame Nelson
Jessica Maldonado
Jim Drown Angel Vision and Atlanta Outpouring
John Arnott, angels and backpacks Here and Ecumenical Soaking
John Crowder/New Mystics The son of thunder and demonic puff impartation and heavy drunken glory
John Laframboise
Joshua Mills here
Kevin Basconi
Kira Mitchell
Mark Eshleman
Matt Sorger Here
Patricia King Blue Flame of Witchcraft and More on her here and yet more here
Paul Cain, Here and Here and A prophetic vision of prophet Paul Cain Here
Why did Todd Bentley let Paul Cain lie to millions? Here and Strader now says Paul Cain is a heritic here
A prophetic vision of prophet Paul Cain Here
Prakash Singh
Rick Joyner Here and http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/rick-joyner-the-apostle-paul-and-the-antichrist/
Rob DeLuca Jesus, get off your throne and onto your knees! here
Stacey Campbell wild head shaking and Learning from History re Stacey’s manifestations
Steve Schulz, (Elijah List) Oregon Outpouring and Psychics are Lost Prophets
Steve Strader excuses Paul Cain Here and Yet more lies, cover-ups and excuses from Stephen Strader Here, now says Paul Cain is a heritic here and claims that angel Emma officially dumped here
The River Church, Maidenhead Here
Tom Scarrella
Trevor Baker Dudley Outpouring Glory Flakes at Dudley
Victor Hernandez
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Other church leader’s or voice’s responses
Andrew Strom MOST “CONTAGIOUS” ANOINTING – Florida - WARNING Here and “ANGELS” & the FLORIDA HEALING REVIVAL - Warning! Here and Response to Lee Grady here
False Healing Revival – Todd Bentley and Lakeland Ignited Events Here
Che Ahn prophesying Here
David Wilkerson – Here
Derek Prince warns about Todd Bentley from beyond the Grave! Here and Navigating through the minefield of signs and wonders Here
George Whitefield http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/george-whitefield-to-john-wesley-on-todd-bentley-lakeland-outpouring-manifestations/
George Wood (AOG Superintendent) Here and here
Gerald Coates of Pioneer Churches - Here
Jack Hayford statement on the Lakeland Revival, Todd Bentley Here
Jacob Prasch here and http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/response-to-gary-s-greigs-biblical-defense-of-todd-bentley-and-the-lakeland/
John Arnott from Toronto Blesses Lakeland and Todd Bentley Here and angels and backpacks Here
John Piper here
John Kilpatrick linked to Brownsville on Todd Bentley & The Lakeland Revival Here
Lee Grady – Honest Questions and Appealing to the new apostles and prophets
Peter Horrobin (Ellel Ministries) here
Reachout Trust here
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Comparisons
Marjoe Gortner vs Todd Bentley – Brings New Meaning to the Word “Revival” Here
Heartbreaking video from healing rally – Morris Cerullo Here
Richard Roberts Here
2008, the year of Revival and Outpouring and the New Pentecost - why? Here
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General Associations re Joel’s Army, Latter Rain and Dominionism
Signs and Entry Points to Mysticism in the church Here
The Charismatic third wave church: unity from common experience Here
Convert or Die! Civil War in the Church played out Here
A New Breed, Joel’s Army, the Joseph Company, the MELCHIZEDEK Order Here
THE NEW REVIVAL CHARACTERISTICS – The Third Wave Outpouring Here
The New Reformation – returning to Rome Here
John Arnott Ecumenical Soaking
Rick Joyner on ecumenicism as the new prophets & apostles see it Here
Prophet Bob Jones role in Toronto Blessing, Brownsville, Lakeland & what comes next: Civil War in the Church Here
Lou Engle calls for civil war in church, more militancy as Joel’s Army rises Here
Lee Grady Appealing to the new apostles and prophets
Jesus, get off your throne and onto your knees! here
Bobby Conner prophecies Emerging Kingdom Company
Todd Bentley calls for an antichrist Jesus to arise – The Manifestation of the Sons of God here
Second Coming Antichrist Jesus to make Appearance on Lakeland Stage here
Buford Dowell on Latter Rain army here
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Prophecies re Todd Bentley and Lakeland
Prophetic Art re Todd Bentley’s Lakeland Outpouring Healing Revival Here
The Lakeland Outpouring is a winnowing field – a prophetic word Here
Vision of “God’s new thing” – THE GIANT HIDEOUS BIRD IN AMERICA Here
Todd Bentley & the third wave – a picture speaks a thousand words Here
The emperor has no clothes on! Here
The poisoned pond – a prophecy for the church Here
Prophetic Vision of Acid Cloud re Toronto, Brownsville, Lakeland & Other Such Outpourings Here
Beware of Yeti footprints here
Todd Bentley in the dragon’s mouth here
Another warning vision of deception afoot here
A prophetic vision of prophet Paul Cain Here
The Spirit of Error and Jezebel Here
God will not be mocked here
Raiding Coins from Heaven here
Todd Bentley as Boot Maker here
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Apologetics/Judging/Discernment/Speaking Out
The Gamaliel Approach to Todd Bentley & the Lakeland Outpouring Here
Is it right to question or to doubt a prophet like Todd Bentley’s words? Here
Naming names, calling a spade a spade, on Christian watchman ministries Here
Judge not lest you be judged – should we criticise anointed men of God? Here
Touch not my anointed – prophetic art re new apostles and prophets Here
Is criticism casting stones? Here
Let the wheat and tares alone! Here
Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing – false prophets & teachers Here
Does Jezebel resist the prophetic and this move of Todd Bentley’s? Here
Don’t judge Todd Bentley by his past – prison for sexual assualt Here
Defending Todd Bentley – Attacks Because of His Personal Appearance here
The Religious Affections – wisdom for today from three hundred years ago Here
HOW TO TRY THE SPIRITS by A W Tozer Here
The Spirit of Error and Jezebel Here
Nicodemus Leaders: “He Who Came to Jesus By Night” Here
The Silent Mother here
Welcome to the third wave church here
Sincere Questions here
Catch the fire here
If it is not expressly forbidden in the Bible then it can’t be discounted here
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True Revival vs False Revival
Revivals that Stay by E M Bounds Here
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Links to Toronto Blessing, Sunderland Refreshing, Brownsville Revival
The Toronto Deception by a former Vineyard Pastor here
Testimony of deliverence from Toronto Experience Here
John Arnott from Toronto Blesses Lakeland and Todd Bentley Here
John Arnott, angels and backpacks Here and Ecumenical Soaking
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Todd Bentley and Lakeland Videos
Todd knees someone in stomach Here
Todd Bentley prophesying and doing some bad cold reading Here
Fake laughter Here
Video of Todd Bentley talking about beating up the flock Here
Angelic abduction Here
Blah Blah Blah Here
Che Ahn double portion of Branham’s mantle Here
John Arnott, angels and backpacks Here
Healing Revival angel story here
Jesus, get off your throne and onto your knees! here
Second Coming Antichrist Jesus to make Appearance on Lakeland Stage here
Awesome signs and wonders predicted do not show up as predicted here
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To the author of this website. I know this is off the subject on this post, but since it’s the newest post I thought it might be a good place to ask you a question.
Have you considered posting a article about snake handlers in the West Virgina area? As I haven’t seen one on this site. Or are they simply a movement of the past and have subsided?
Ron - I do not write about all flakiness, just about the things that either interest me, I am moved by and led to write about, or what I feel is important about the majority charismatic/pentecostal church sector. Although snake handling is off the wall theologically, I considered that the majority of people in the chuch at large more than knew this as it was so obvious, and do not need specifically warned about it? It is relatively ‘minority’ interest – that is not to say that the minority are unimportant and do not need to be corrected, just like any of the other numerous off the wall cults and sects in America, it’s just I consider there’s far bigger and more important things to focus on at this time that the church at large are accepting as coita. If they were accepting snake handling I’d warn about it and take it more seriously, but they are not.
Miriam
Thanks for your blog. As the minister of a growing church open to the spirit, located in a rural area of SW England, questions are already coming my way about all that is happening at Lakeland. Friends in the UK are attending “catch it” meetings. Bless you for your wisdom and discernment on this
Stevetherev
Had a dream last night about Todd Bentley showing up as a snake trying to swollow the hole globe!!! Really sceary stuff!!!
Thank you Lord for the warning!!!
Marc chapter 13 vers 22-23 about false Christs and prophets trying to mislead us. I believe in God, not in Todd!!!
POSTSCRIPT TO MY INVOLVEMENT WITH, AND DELIVERANCE FROM, THE ‘TORONTO EXPERIENCE’
From: Sally Richardson (richardsonsally4@hotmail.com)
Sent: 14 May 2008 20:35:24
To: Sally Richardson (richardsonsally4@hotmail.com)
Dear Friends,
They say what goes around comes around, and that is certainly true of the so-called Florida Revival under Todd Bentley. Having watched the shenanigans on the ‘Godless’ channel, I am painfully and sharply reminded of my own experiences whilst embroiled in ‘Toronto’, and can only thank my Lord afresh for opening my eyes to this gross deception, and, in His grace and His mercy, leading me out and putting me back on the path of His choosing for me once again. The enemy had sought to draw me off that path and onto a path which would have ultimately led to death and destruction; I thank God so much that he did not succeed.
There are many parallels and links between that and what is currently happening in Florida. People are being deceived yet again. The flames of the false anointing of Toronto died down, but now the enemy of our souls has fanned them, and they are flaming once more. This is nothing less than false fire.
Truly, truly, my friends, we are living in the Last Days. The Bible warns us of these things in Matthew 24: 11 & 12, and in verse 24. Oh, how important it is that we do what our Lord advises us in verse 13!
Amos 5:10 is certainly true for those of us who oppose these things and who stand for truth – at best we experience defensiveness, and at worst, downright hostility. Nevertheless, we need to continue to stand for that truth and to keep our eyes fixed on Him, the Leader and the Source of our faith, allowing nothing and no-one to distract us.
As I see this false revival gaining momentum, I am reminded once again of our Lord’s admonitions in the following passages:
Matthew 7: 15 – 23
2 Corinthians 11: 3 & 4, 13 – 15.
In His love and service,
Sally
MY INVOLVEMENT WITH, AND DELIVERANCE FROM, THE ‘TORONTO
EXPERIENCE’
(First published March 1996, updated June 2006)
by SALLY RICHARDSON
My involvement with Toronto first started in July 1994. At that time, I
was in a paid position of leadership in the Anglican church I attended,
and on the church Staff Team.
In July 1994, the leadership of many churches in west London received an
invitation to attend a meeting at a certain church in Acton, west London,
which was a Holy Trinity Brompton (HTB) church plant. The purpose of this
meeting, the invitation letter explained, was for people to hear about and
experience for themselves what was described as the ‘new move’ of the Holy
Spirit happening at the Airport Vineyard Church, Toronto and being known
to some as the Toronto Blessing. The letter stated that various members of
HTB had recently returned from Toronto and wanted to share all they had
learnt there and then pass it on in ministry afterwards.
Several of us in leadership in my church, including myself, attended. I
remember at the time feeling very excited because, if this was, as was
being claimed, a new move of the Holy Spirit, then I wanted to be part of
it and to experience everything that was on offer. Others in our party
were a lot more careful and cautious in their approach.
We arrived at the church where the meeting was to be held to find it full
- there were no spare chairs. Someone hastened to find some for us, and
meanwhile, the meeting started. There was a great sense of excited
anticipation in the air; so tangible was it, that it was almost electric
in effect.
At that point, our chairs were brought to us, but owing to lack of space
in the church, the members of our party could not sit together. We were
therefore separated and given chairs in various locations round the
church. I remember I was sitting in the aisle, at the end of a row, and
very near the front.
The meeting started with praise and worship before the various people who
had been to Toronto were brought to the front, and introduced, the notable
exception being Sandy Millar, Leading Minister at HTB. Every person at the
front was exhibiting various unusual manifestations such as jumping up and
down like pogo sticks, jerking, laughing, convulsing, etc. As you can
imagine, it was very difficult for these people to speak, and so the
testimonies they gave were somewhat disjointed, to say the least!
Each person said that it was a ‘new thing’ that God was doing, that it was
a new move of the Holy Spirit, and that it was an empowering and anointing
for ministry. We were then told that the time for ministry had come, and
so, having invited the Holy Spirit to come, the various members of HTB and
its associated churches began to move amongst the congregation, laying
hands on all they could reach.
As I had a prominent position in the aisle, I was one of the first to have
hands laid on me. Immediately, I went down on the floor, seemingly with
some considerable force, and began to roll around on the floor, laughing
uncontrollably. I seemed to be filled with an exceedingly great joy, which
I felt I could hardly contain.
After some considerable time, during which I had been unable to stop
rolling around on the floor laughing uncontrollably, I tried to get up and
return to my seat. However, I felt very groggy and unsteady and could only
manage to clamber halfway into my seat. As I did so, someone came up to
me, laid hands on me and said, ‘Give her more, Lord, give her more!’ I
went down onto the floor once again, and the whole process of rolling
around and laughing uncontrollably started once again. Altogether, this
experience happened seven times in total – each time I tried to get up
from the floor, someone would come along, lay hands on me, utter the now
familiar words, ‘Give her more, Lord!’, and off I would go again.
Two particular occasions stand out in my mind as I remember that night and
this particular meeting. On the first occasion, I had just had hands laid
on me for the third or fourth time and had fallen on the floor. As I lay
there, I was aware that my skirt had ridden up, and was somewhere around
my waist, exposing my person in somewhat indecent fashion. However, in
comparison to what was happening, this seemed so very trivial that I could
not be bothered to put my skirt down. All I did was lie there, laughing
uncontollably. Then someone came along and tugged at my skirt to pull it
down and make me decent. At this point, I glanced up and saw that the
person pulling my skirt down was none other than Sandy Millar. For some
reason, I found this uproariously funny, and laughed the harder and the
louder. I remember seeing, at the same time that Sandy Millar pulled my
skirt down, that various people in the congregation were either lying down
shaking and laughing, or staggering around, holding onto articles of
furniture to stop them from falling as they went.
On the second occasion, I remember having clambered onto a pew, where I
lay laughing and shaking uncontrollably. Once again, someone came up to me
and repeated the now very familiar words, ‘Give her more, Lord, give her
more!’ Whereupon, I fell off the pew and onto the floor, where I lay
uncomfortably wedged between my own pew and the one in front, having
uncontollable hysterics yet again.
Eventually, it seemed, the meeting ended. By this time, my vicar and the
local Baptist minister had come over to me and were quite literally
pulling me up off the floor. I could hardly stand, and was falling,
staggering and flopping about like someone who had had too much to drink.
It was very obvious to my vicar and the Baptist minister that there was no
way that I could walk unaided, and so of one accord, they took one arm
each, and supporting me on either side, half led and half carried me out
of the church. I was laughing uncontrollably still, but as we left the
church, I glanced round to see what was happening. Some people were still
lying on the floor laughing and shaking, and others were staggering
drunkenly about. Yet others stood with vacant or bemused expressions on
their faces as though wondering what to make of it all.
Meanwhile, we were going out through the church doors and into the
car-park. Still, the two leaders were half carrying me, and when we got to
my vicar’s car, they had to open the back door and deposit me like a sack
of potatoes on the seat. None of the others, I noticed, had been touched
in the way I had. I remember thinking, ‘Poor things – they HAVE missed
out!’
When we got back to the block of flats where we live, I was helped out of
the car and to the main entrance. I remember I could not open the door,
and our next door neighbour’s son, who happened to be standing just
inside, saw me and opened it for me.
He made an exclamation of astonishment and said I had obviously had too
much to drink! I remember at this point thinking how grateful I was that
our flat was on the ground floor, otherwise I would never have got up the
stairs – our block of flats has five floors, and the local council has not
seen fit to install a lift!
I staggered into our flat and into the sitting-room, where my husband was
sitting watching television. He looked up at me as I entered, a look of
amazement and astonishment dawning on his face. ‘Are you drunk?’ he asked.
‘I thought you had been to a church meeting!’ For some reason, I found
this remark highly amusing, and collapsed on the settee, laughing
uncontrollably. My poor husband! He just did not know what to make of it
all, and was very perturbed. Eventually, not being able to get any sense
out of me, he went to bed, leaving me to it. I remember, during one bout
of hysterical laughter, glancing at the wall-clock and seeing it said 2am.
I must have fallen asleep sometime after that because I awoke, around 5am
in the morning, in a stiff and awkward position on the settee. I still
felt groggy, as though it was the morning after the night before. Before I
became a Christian, I had had a drink problem, and used to get drunk
almost every night of the week on a bottle of wine or several strong
beers. This experience seemed no different, except of course, that I had
had no alcohol!
After that initial meeting, it was as though I could not get enough of
Toronto. Toronto was like a drug to me, and I needed my ‘fix’. The more I
had, the more I wanted. I couldn’t do without it. It was like being on a
permanent ‘high’. When I had been to a Toronto meeting and had been
forward for yet another anointing, the effects on me were similar to when
I had dabbled with drugs, especially cannabis, in the years before I had
come to know the Lord. Cannabis had given me a light, floaty, dissociated
feeling, and this was the same, except I didn’t have to pay for it!
One particular meeting, out of all the Toronto meetings I attended, stands
out in my mind. This was the Times of Refreshing Conference at HTB in
1995, and at which Nicky Gumbel was taking one session. I remember, I was
sitting with my friend Mandy just in front of the recording desk, when I
began to jerk and shake and jump up and down from my chair. I didn’t seem
able to stop myself, despite holding tightly to the back of the chair in
front of me. The next thing I knew, I was jumping higher and higher each
time. One or two others, I noticed, were doing the same.
At this point, Nicky Gumbel stopped speaking and said, ‘There are people
here that God wants to anoint for a ministry of evangelism!’ He beckoned
for us to come forward, which we did, I being the first to reach the
front. Nicky Gumbel laid hands on me and prayed for me, whereupon I
collapsed in a heap on the floor. Later, at that same conference, John and
Eleanor Mumford from the sw London Vineyard Church led a session. There
was no preaching or teaching – instead it was mostly Eleanor Mumford
sharing her testimony of how she had brought the Toronto Experience over
from the Toronto Airport Vineyard Church (as it was known then).
It was following this that Sandy Millar stepped forward and asked all
present (over 1,000) to take their chairs, and stack them up against the
walls so that ministry could begin. This having been done, he then invited
the Holy Spirit to come. Immediately, order flew out of the window and
complete and utter pandemonium reigned – people began falling like
ninepins, including myself, laughing, screaming and making various animal
noises as they went. Various anointings for various ministries were
announced as the meeting progressed, and there was total chaos as people
tried to make their way to the places where the various anointings were
taking place, pushing their way through the sea of bodies lying prostrate
on the floor jerking, convulsing, rolling and shaking. It was at this
point that I experienced some stirrings of doubt and misgiving, but I
quickly pushed them away and went off to receive my anointing or yet
another ministry.
A few days after the Times of Refreshing Conference, I received a letter
from a lady whose ministry I supported. She was writing in response to a
word of knowledge I had had for her, and was sharing how that word had
been pertinent to her circumstances at that time. She had enclosed with
her letter various news and prayer letters from several ministries,
including her own and those of Prophetic Word Ministries and Moriel. All,
without exception, were about the Toronto experience, saying it was not a
blessing at all, but a deception and a delusion and an alien spirit.
When I look back, I cannot think of any reason as to why this lady saw fit
to send these news and prayer letters except that the Lord had laid it on
her heart to do so. Much as I admired the ministries of those who had sent
them, I had great difficulty in accepting what they said about Toronto.
The lady whose ministry I supported recommended a tape by David Noakes, so
I wrote to him requesting a copy. Meanwhile, I was determined to know the
truth of the matter, so I took a day off work and went for a walk by the
river in Putney. Here, I found a quiet spot to prostrate myself before the
Lord and to ask Him to show me whether these people were right or wrong in
what they were saying about Toronto. I didn’t want them to be right, but
at the same time I knew I needed to come into truth – Biblical truth –
about the matter. I never thought to look at the Scripture references
these ministers gave and check them for myself.
The following day, I had the day off work anyway, and decided I would go
to ClaphamJunction to do some shopping. I was going down Lavender Hill,
when I noticed a Christian bookshop called Cornerstone.
I went in and immediately noticed a section of books on Toronto –
unusually, books WARNING against it, not promoting it! One particular
booklet, entitled ‘No Laughing Matter’ by Stanley Jebb, particularly
caught my eye. I picked it up, and began to look through it.
At that point, the proprietress of the bookshop came over and asked if she
could help me. I asked her about the booklet, and she said she could
really recommend it, as it went into great detail, with relevant Scripture
references provided, to point out the dangers of the Toronto Experience.
I told the proprietress that I had been heavily involved in Toronto, and
that I was trying to discover the truth of the matter as it seemed it
might be different from what I had been led to believe. As difficult as it
might be, I told this lady, I was duty-bound to find GOD’S truth on the
issue. The proprietress urged me to take away the booklet and to look up
the Scripture references therein for myself. Meanwhile, she told me, she
would pray for me, and ask the Lord to bring me into truth.
The next day was the day my church’s Intercession Group met. The four of
us in the group met as usual, and began to bring our church, its leaders,
ongoing issues etc. before the Lord, and to seek His face.
After a break in prayer, the Pastoral Worker at the church said that the
leadership of the church were considering sending our vicar to Toronto,
and were going to bring it up at the next meeting of the PCC. The PCC
meeting was a few days later.
I could not keep quiet, and told the others that I was having second
thoughts about Toronto, and that perhaps we should therefore reconsider
the decision to send our vicar to Toronto. I then showed the other members
of the group the materials I had been sent.
With one exception, my suggestion was met with derision and scorn. ‘Who
DID these people think they were?’ they said. ‘How DARE they criticise a
mighty move of God!’ And I was just as bad for even CONSIDERING that they
could be right!
We continued to pray, but I found it very difficult, as I no longer felt I
was of one mind with the others in the group, and that we were praying at
cross-purposes. Nevertheless, I soldiered on. It was then that the Lord
gave me a picture of a broken down stone wall of the sort that are common
in Derbyshire and the Peak District.
I brought this picture before the group and we asked the Lord what it
meant. However, He seemed to be saying that He would show us later, so we
left it there and continued to pray.
Upon returning home, I found that the postman had been and that I had
received David Noakes’ tape. David had been to Toronto in October 1994 to
experience what was happening there and to report his findings, and this
was the tape recording what he had found there. I settled down to listen
to it.
As David shared, I began to realise, through a witness in my spirit, that
this was indeed the truth of the matter, and that Toronto was indeed a
delusion and a deception. As David gave Scriptural references to back up
what he was saying, I checked them for myself and found them to be true.
(Up until this point, I had never checked the Toronto experience with the
Word – rather, I had just yielded myself up to it and had chased one new
experience after another).
Then a phrase that David used caught my attention. ‘The walls of scripture
are being broken down’, he said.* Immediately, the picture of the broken
down stone wall came back to my mind, and I knew instantly that this was
that to which it referred. The Toronto proponents were taking Scripture
out of context and were making it fit the phenomena, instead of rightly
testing it against the Word.
David went on to say that, in his experience, anyone caught up in Toronto
inevitably needed ministry because of the strong, very dark spirits behind
it. I was very perturbed, and after praying, I wrote to David Noakes
explaining the fact that I had been heavily involved in Toronto, but now
come out of it, and asking him to pray for me.
Meanwhile, I had returned to Cornerstone, the Christian bookshop in
Clapham Junction, where Ulrike, the proprietess, suggested I have ministry
to cut me free from the Toronto spirit. I told her that I had written to
David Noakes, whom she knew, asking him if he might minister to me and
that I was awaiting his reply. She told me that she knew someone who would
minister to me if I did not want to wait to see David.
As the days went by, I became increasingly friendly with Ulrike and her
husband Brian, who owned and ran ‘Cornerstone’. Ulrike took me under her
wing, and, like a mother of Israel, began to lead me in the way of truth
concerning not only Toronto, but other false teachings as well. She also
introduced me to ‘Intercessors for Britain’, under whose auspices at the
time that I began to attend the Ladies’ Prayer and Bible Days which were
then at Westminster Chapel and led by Pat Hughes, Patricia Gordon and Gay
Hyde.
On my second visit to the Ladies’ Prayer and Bible Days meeting, I was
chatting to Ulrike during the lunch break when Patricia Gordon came over
to us. Ulrike introduced me to Patricia, and told her about my involvement
with Toronto. Patricia then asked if I had had ministry to set me free. I
told Patricia that I was awaiting ministry with David Noakes, but she
lovingly but very firmly assured me that there was no time like the
present, and that she, Pat Hughes and Gay Hyde would minister to me after
the meeting. She went on to add that David Noakes, whom she knew and
regarded very highly, would not mind at all, saying that the Lord had
provided the opportunity for me to have ministry and that I should
therefore make the most of it.
Before ministry began, Pat and Gay asked me some very searching questions
such as, what had Toronto done for me, what good had come from it and
whether, as many claimed they did, I had a greater hunger for God’s word.
Their penetrating, but nevertheless very necessary, questions made me
realise that in fact the very opposite was true. Instead of having a
greater hunger for God’s Word, I actually found it very difficult to pray,
much less open my Bible. I honestly had not been aware of this until these
three dear and very Godly ladies confronted me with it, so caught up had I
been in chasing various spiritual experiences.
The three ladies first of all led me in a prayer of repentance after
which, my having renounced my involvement with Toronto, proceeded to cut
me free from the Toronto spirit. As they did so, I can only describe what
then occurred as a heaviness going, a feeling of a large and very heavy
blanket being lifted and a fog dispersing. It was as though I could see
clearly again!
Later on, I did see David Noakes for ministry as the Lord had showed me
that for me, Toronto was just the tip of the iceberg. Previous to becoming
embroiled and entangled with Toronto, I had been involved in other false
teaching and deceptive practices such as Restorationism and Name It and
Claim It and realised I needed ministry in order to be released from the
detrimental effects of these teachings. I saw David Noakes and his prayer
partner in January 1996, and in the ministry that followed, I was
wonderfully and gloriously cut free from the roots of all the deceptive
practices and teachings I had taken on board in the past.
Since coming into the truth concerning Toronto and my subsequent ministry,
I have had such a desire to walk in truth and holiness before the Lord,
and to set no unclean thing before me. Nothing less than this will do.
Since then there has always a ‘check’ in my when something is not of God,
even though there are occasions when I cannot find the reasons why in my
Bible.
The Lord has also made it very clear to me that, having come into truth
and having been set free (Gal. 5:1) that I am no longer to go to churches
or associate myself with ministries where Toronto and indeed other false
teachings, are promoted and accepted. This has meant that I have had to
leave my previous church where I had worshipped for seven and a half
years. Toronto was in evidence there, as well as other false teachings
such as Replacement and Dominion theology to name but two.
I thank God that, in the midst of this, He promised me that He had
‘prepared a place for me, a place where I would continue to be nurtured
and fed and where the things that were now dear to my heart were practiced
and taught.’ In June 1996, he led me to this place, a little independent
chapel in nw London where the teaching is sound, the ministry balanced and
without excesses and where I received a warm welcome and became part of a
close-knit church family. I AM used of the Lord there, but not in any of
the supposed ‘anointings’ I received when I was caught up in Toronto. I
got nothing from these ‘anointings’, despite all their promises of
equipping for ministry. Instead, I still have the gifts I have always had
since being baptised in the Holy Spirit.
Sally Richardson June 2006
11 years on, and I am still at the same independent fellowship that the
Lord led me to in 1996. It is a precious little fellowship where the
things of God are faithfully taught and where the truth of Scripture is
paramount. I am reminded that it was at Shavuot (Pentecost) 11 years ago
that I first attended a service at this little church, and it was Shavuot
last weekend. I owe so very much to the Lord, and am grateful too for
those dear folk who prayed for me and helped me to come out of deception.
Sadly, although our church has been extremely careful to uphold Biblical
practice and teaching, much of the church has not, and in the last 11
years, I have seen error and deception proliferate and multiply.
The Lord has spoken to me much out of Ezekiel 13. Read it for yourself
and you will see how relevant and pertinent it is to the situation in much
of the Church in these days. When I look at verse 5, which reads YOU HAVE
NOT GONE INTO THE GAPS OR BREECHES, NOR BUILT UP THE WALL (FOR THE
HOUSE OF ISRAEL – parantheses mine) THAT IT MIGHT STAND IN THE BATTLE
OF THE DAY OF THE LORD, it reminds me of David Noakes’ warning on that tape
I listened to all those years ago where he said that the walls of Scripture were
being broken down.* Much of the church is in ruins because of false
teaching, false prophecies and deceptive practices, and yet they seem
unaware of their wretched state. People tell me that Toronto is over, but
it has surely left its legacy. So too, will the latest fads and teachings
that many are so taken with, the latest being Purpose Driven.
I can only pray for those caught up in false teaching and deception and
especially pray that He might open their eyes and bring them out as He
brought me out. Will you join me?
Sally Richardson
richardsonsally4@hotmail.com
07867 793253
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Miriam, thanks so much for putting this blog and index together!! Bless you for your service to the Lord and all of us.
Dave
Mariam, I am unable to find the article about Todd Bentley’s criminal charges Could you please direct me.
This is incredible, thank you so much! It looks like a lot of hard work, also.
God bless you!
Here you are Kathryn. Someone on this blog called me “demon boy” for questioning Todd Bentley’s ministry because of this.
http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/04/22/todd-bentley-and-the-lakeland-revival/
http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/05/05/dont-judge-todd-bentley-by-his-past-prison-for-sexual-assualt/
It is so sad that people take so much time to criticise Todd and his team instead of praying for them. I have been watching on God TV for the past 3 weeks and what a blessing.
my friend that stays next door to me has had a scare dissapear from her body What may I ask is this other than a miracle. Stop with what you are doing and go on your knees and rather ask God to bless these meetings I would rather believe in what is happening than find out later that I was critical and all that happened is true and I fell short of the Glory and missed all the blessings. NO THANK YOU. God is in control Todd and his team are only instuments in His hand. After all it is God that is doing the healing not Todd so the criticism is toward God.
God is God and he does things in his own way who are we to speak against it. Stop analizing everything.
Beryl Van Niekerk
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3356633/-Todd-Bentley-DEMONIC-STAR-GATE-PORTALS-TO-THIRD-HEAVENS-
REPLACING YOUR SPIRIT WITH A DEMON
I can tell you what I’ve seen from Christians that are giving themselves to the Bentley false revival. Something else replaces their spirit and returns from the mysterious world of the ‘Third Heaven’. They are lifeless, like dead walking zombies with deep set, dull, jet black pool eyes that are state of confusion. They are agitated mean-spirited, their personalities are changed. A new personality appears that is nasty, enraged and hardhearted. It’s as though a block has been put between the person and former Christians friends. They reject their old friends, church and pastors, divided, they receive a superior attitude. Many are falling away from their churches. Some people are turning blue, red, and purple, which, according the Japanese writers, which are the same colors the demonic Angel EMMA-O, (purple) and connected Oni demons (blue and red) who are death demons. I believe these underworld demons are marking these Christian for death! See my newsletter. . . http://www.scribd.com/doc/3209777/TODD-BENTLEY-DEATH-SPIIRITS-DEAD-SHEEP-EMMAO-KING-OF-HELL
SOUL SCALPERS
So, you can let the soul scalpers, such as Todd Bentley and other so-called Christian ministers, “take you on a spiritual trip through the star gate portal into the mystical Third Heaven, but I warn you to go at your own risk of losing your eternal soul. These familiar spirits will put your spirit in a cage where you will be held in total bondage until Jesus returns. The demonic angels that Todd Bentley and others are playing around with, will replace your spirit with a demon, you have committed spiritual suicide, that’s what you did. I do not believe that you will find Jesus there.
Todd Bentley says, “Today I want to focus the teaching on the angelic realm and how you can release angels to fulfill God’s word.” Wow! Did you understand what he just said? You have so much power YOU can liberate demonic angels to, according to Bentley, FULFILL GOD’S WORD!
ANTICHRIST END TIME REVIVAL
The Apostle Paul did not want Christians to be ignorant of Spiritual Gifts and the leading of the Holy Spirit. What you are witnessing above is definitely not the anointing of the Holy Ghost or an even a stray Angel from Heaven. What we are witnessing in this strange fire revival is a blasphemous tragedy. It’s a black mark on the Church, an embarrassment initiated by extremist, delusionary, unruly thugs; representing a deluded message to the world that Christians are crazy. Is there any Pentecostal leadership left that will get some back bone, stand up and stop these demon possessed hoodlums from disgracing the Holiness, sanctity and trampling on the blood of Jesus?
The blinded pastors leading the blind fill their church buses, open their mega churches, showing this ungodly circus to their sheep on huge TV screens. These apostates watch in awe at the spectacle Todd Bentley’s “Hell’s Angels” approach ministering as a channel of Satan’s demonic signs and wonders working false miracles. Todd Bentley bashes, kicks a woman in the face with his motorcycle boots and other bizarre actions under the anointing of his gods and Christian people laugh. No one is horrified as these mocking spirits prevail in the glory of Bentley’s angelic fire. In these meetings, the outpourings of these spirits are released upon themselves and some people are caught up in frenzies of evil spirits. They demonically manifest, exhibiting lewd behavior in the churches humping sensually, some barking like dogs, mooing like cows, clucking like chickens, howling like hyenas, slithering on the floor like snakes, withering and rolling on the floor, hooting, hysterically laughing and totally caught up in frenzies of ungodliness and self. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTsYSR9kEeg
THE NEW BREED AND THE false ANOINTING
Jacksonville, Fl. June 24, 2008
Dear Saints
The New Breed met last night at the Lakeland Revival to endorse the revival plus anoint Todd Bentley as the number one revivalist of the century!
Look at this link quoting Fordsham’s prophecy.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3566516/Todd-Bentley-Dark-Night-of-the-Soul-Kundalini-Awakening-MYSTICAL-SEEKERS-
Did you see the great commission and the coronation of Todd Bentley last night as the “chosen one” to go into every city of the world? The only thing missing was a crown. Peter Wagner brought about 25 of his “apostles” to anoint Todd Bentley and his demonic revival to go into the world and spread his demonic Kundalini power. http://www.deceptionbytes.com/Todd-Bentleys-Fire-of-Kundalini A must read web site.
I’m an elderly lady now and have been in the ministry for 35 years but have never seen anything as bizarre and crazy as this religious god Baal oriented spectacle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc4g6UMCATA
Bob Jones, Todd Bentley’s spiritual “portal to the Third Heaven” mentor, sent “a word” that “the poison” against Todd Bentley would end last night. Well, all that happened there just added more fuel to fire to those who are watching spiritual disaster being unleashed on the Body of Christ and the world.
I’m so busy in my own call from Jesus, that I’ve never listened to these people before, so I don’t know them by names. But one of the “apostles” prophesied that God had called Bentley to open the “Portals” in every city around the world. Another one related that he knew him when Todd went through his “dark night of the soul”. He was truly called as “God’s” number one man of the hour.
And who will ever forget Stacy Campbell’s devil manifesting her powerful Kundalini spirit to prophesy over Todd and lay her hand on his stomach to impart the Kundalini cobra devils to him?
check this out….from the “welsh revival” that left evan roberts in a nervous breakdown state. he co-wrote this expose with jesse penn-lewis.
http://www.acts1711.com/wots.html
LOOK HERE AT THE CHART COMPARING TRUE MOVES OF GOD WITH THE DEVIL’S COUNTERFEITS
http://www.acts1711.com/TrueWorkings.html
The True Workings of God, and Counterfeits of Satan.
“Knowledge and all discernment; so that ye may prove the things that
differ, that ye may be sincere and void of offence. . . .” Phil. 1: 9,10, m.
what is very interesting is that satan’s counterfeits moves are the same, no matter the time or place. don’t forget to send this along to anyone attempting to get free from the demonic.
Jesus warned that this kind only go out with prayer and fasting
paulnsilas
[...] >> You miss the point, it’s not about his looks, it about the unscriptural things he does and teaches: William Brenham’s mantle, angles, portals, opening Gates, the way he conducted a baptism and the things he said, punching and kicking people to ‘heal’ them, realm of the seers, lying about when he got his tattoos, contemplative prayer, meditation, conversing with the dead (all be it in trips to ‘heaven’), the fact that Bob Jones is Todd’s mentor and says the most unbelievably godless things, like the anointing can be found in the kidneys, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. Emma is now male and not female anymore, certain geographical areas being spiritual hot-spots, more than 1 anointing, allowing people to ‘prophesy’ scripture over Todd that was meant for Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ only, false prophecy of Jesus showing up on a Lakeland stage in a chariot amongst many other false prophecies…oh I can go on and on and on. So just to reiterate in case you didn’t understand; It’s NOT about the way he looks! If you are interested in the truth, please go here: http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/index-to-all-articles-on-todd-bentley-lakelan... [...]
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It seems to me that many of God’s children are presently experiencing feelings of embarrassment, confusion, and betrayal. Others have determined that doctrinal errors have been perpetrated upon the Body of Christ, and at the least, manifestations of the flesh, rather that of the Holy Spirit. As a result of the deluge of emotions, many on both sides of the issue are angry and at the least very disturbed.
I was wondering this morning, “Is God embarrassed? Is he angry about this? I don’t think so. The Lakeland event was hardly a eyebrow raiser on God’s level of concern. Don’t get me wrong, He desires a much higher level of behavior for us. But is he angry? Is he bombarding earth and all its news outlets in an endeavor to straighten this out? I don’t think so. (Yes, he is concerned, but I doubt He is bent out of shape. This is nothing new to him.)
The Lakeland episode will pass. The question is, “Will you remain fruitful in the vineyard God has set you in?” My concern is that many will remain so focused on someone else’s issues that they may develop hindrances of their own. Our common enemy doesn’t care how we lose our effectiveness. The greater damage, long term, may be due to the root of bitterness that now seems to be rapidly growing.
“Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; “Hebrews 12:15 KJV
( I hesitate to bring any one verse to this discussion. So I suggest we read all of Hebrews 12. It seems to cover practically everything discussed on this forum.)
Lastly, I ask, “Where is our peace.” Remember peace? That settled presence of the Lord, guiding our direction and keeping our minds through Christ? Perhaps we should take a step back and recover our spiritual equilibrium and have our peace restored.
I am not stating that you should abandon your position, but don’t allow it to destroy you. God wants us to continue his work in the earth, and it’s not likely we will be very productive in an atmosphere of strife.
State your position, make it clear, support it with facts, summarize it again if you feel you should, than move on with your life and kingdom responsibilities. If not, five years from now, Lakeland may still be the center, the focus, of your world. That would be unfortunate.
Let’s learn what we can, allow the Holy Spirit to bring healing to us, and let’s move on.
you should probably include John Paul Jackson as an associate of Todd’s……
and if you aren’t aware of JPJ’s history, there’s plenty of it available. He’s a little more “slick” than some of the other KC “Prophets”, and tends to spend more of his time promoting his own ministry and teachings than promoting others. He was to have appeared with Todd in August. I don’t know how that turned out.
It saddens me that Todd B. has Bob J. as his mentor? (Or, ‘had’.) Isn’t Bob J the guy who had women undress in his office for a prophecy or something? And touched them,etc? This is insane and degrading. Why isn’t Bob J in jail? Why are these men allowed to get away with this lechery? I know of an 80plus man in ministry who has a 40plus wife. Why? I know of a 30yrold girl who is infatuated with a 62yrold man…old enough to be her father, or even grandfather. Why? Why? Will people please wake up and get some wisdom and decency? What the %%%%%* is going on? (*heck) When are the news services going to investigate this stuff/ How can we evangelize and get people situated into a church community, when it is worse than out in the world/ So much open lust, flirting, adulterous staring, fornication,etc…just to name a few…of the behaviour patterns prevalent in today’s modern church houses. It’s like the men are all in heat and the women dress like harlots. Showing cleavage,etc; flirting w/married men, and pastors, and the evanglists,etc. Is everyone so stupid these days/ At least the nuns cover up.