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Video of Todd Bentley choking the flock – quite literally

Thanks to the anon poster who sent me this video link of Todd Bentley talking about his ‘healing’ ministry. Among other things, Todd Bentley claims God told him to batter a lady’s legs with a baseball bat, to kick an elderly lady in the face with his biker boot, to leg drop a pastor and do some choking moves. Many people have compared Bentley’s charade and stage show with the type of extreme wrestling which he is a confessed fan of. Just maybe they are right…. there is certainly a lot of falseness and make believe.

By the way, before anyone mentions the name ’Smith Wigglesworth’, the much-revered pentecostal healer who famously punched people in the stomach to heal them of tumors, there is no evidence that what Smith Wigglesworth did was right or biblical either, or even that all   the well touted legends about him are even true! He taught and prophesied falsely on at least some points as can be seen from this link: http://bereanresearchinstitute.com/Articles_-_General_Folder/Articles_03_Doctrines/
D.0005_Smith_Wigglesworth_A_Book_Review_of_Pentecostal_Teachings.html. I have always had a great deal of concern about a couple of Wiiglesworth’s prophecies not being from the Spirit of God including the one made about David Du Plessis (Mr Pentecost) promoting church unity with Rome, as well as the end time revival one. Also for someone who preached on ‘ever increasing faith’, Smith Wigglesworth’s faith did not affect all the sickness around him and his family. In spite of his teaching that God promises perfect physical wholeness in the atonement, very few of those who sought Wigglesworth’s healing ministry were ever actually healed. Nor were his family or he. His own wife died a mere six years after he became a Pentecostal, and his young son died two years after that. His daughter, who assisted in his meetings, was never healed of her deafness. For between three and six years Wigglesworth suffered with bad kidney stones. He also had sciatica which made walking painful and a stroke. 

To compare this to Todd Bentley:- Bentley’s close friend and mentor, Bob Jones is sick with kidney problems and is obese. Todd Bentley is overweight and balding and had a recent heart attack. Quite a few of Todd Bentley’s musicians and singers, as others have remarked, are also very  big so there is no miraculous weight loss anointing or healing baldness anointing or any healing anointing working among them – and Todd claims the anointing drops pounds off fat people and puts hair on heads. James Goll’s wife is seriously ill with cancer. Get my drift?

I do believe in divine miraculous healing by the way - I have been healed myself. But I also believe in crooks and charlatans and false prophets and  false teachers – don’t you?

 

See also this video where Todd knees someone in the stomach here

All Todd Bentley and Lakeland articles here

 

May 27, 2008 - Posted by endtimespropheticwords | False Prophets and Teachers, Fresh Fire, Fresh Fire ministries, Healing, Holy Laughter, Latter Rain, Prophecy, Revival, Smith Wigglesworth, Todd Bentley, signs and wonders | , , , , , , , | 16 Comments

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  1. This clip made me ill. It is beyond me how ANYONE can hear/see this man and believe that this move is from God. Ask yourself…Does Todd Bentley’s behavior reflect the behavior of Christ? And what must unbelievers be saying about us? Why would any unsaved person want any part of what has hold of Todd Bentley???
    Sad.

    Comment by Sarah | May 27, 2008

  2. Psa 7:11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry [with the wicked] every day.
    12 If he turn not, he will whet his sword; he hath bent his bow, and made it ready.
    13 He hath also prepared for him the instruments of death; he ordaineth his arrows against the persecutors.
    14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood.
    15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch [which] he made.
    16 His mischief shall return upon his own head, and his violent dealing shall come down upon his own pate.

    God is not mocked.

    Comment by Kate | May 27, 2008

  3. The problem with the video is that it is a collection of short clips taken out of context as can be seen by the jumps from fone anecdote to the next. As people in the audience seem to be laughing (as I did when I first saw the video on another blog) it is possible that he was joking or at least exagerating what happened. That is the reason I laughed as I assumed he was not being serious or at the least vastly exagerated the incidents, I was also not aware when watching who Todd Bentley was.

    The main problems I see with preachers like Todd Bentley (and the charasmatic movement) is that there are normally large elements of biblical truth in what they say infact often it can seem like 99% of what they say is correct with only a small part wrong and on some occasions they can even be totally correct. This makes it hard to know if they are intentionally deceiving people or do they genuinly believe what they are saying. In either event they need prayer.

    There is also the risk that they can distract us from the flaws in our own faith and we become so fixated on attacking them that we harden our own hearts and that it can lead us to attack people who are being used by God and the Holy Spirit to spread his gospel message or to bring revival. The longing for revival is of course why so many otherwise solid christians choose to believe the message Todd Bentley and his ilk bring since they do seem to bring it with them. The longing for God to move in this world is also why so many choose to believe that signs and wonders are of God despite the warnings in the bible that they will accompany false prophets

    Finally I pray that if Todd Bentley is a false prophet that the Lord makes it clear to everyone and purges Todd of the spirit of deception within him and allows him to use his obvious gifts to spread the word in its entire truth. I also pray that the Lord guards those that hear his message so that they are not deceived by lies mixed with truth.

    Comment by Random Remarks | May 27, 2008

  4. Oh yes, it’s very funny isn’t it? And they also laugh and cheer when he verbally abuses those of us who oppose this ‘thing’. Will they also laugh when he suggests that something should be done to shut us up? Will they do what he says when he suggests, as others have done, that we are a blot, a spot, a wrinkle on the bride and should be gotten rid of?

    Get ready folks, Jesus said we would suffer, I can see it coming. But Daniel also said that the people who know their God shall be strong, and carry out great exploits.

    Comment by MM | May 28, 2008

  5. Can you say what context Todd’s remarks or actions would be acceptable? I can’t think of any!

    Here’s another YouTube video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX9xdw6aT9c

    In this, and you get all the context, Todd knees someone in the stomach and then tells everyone God told him to do it (at about 4:50 on the video).

    Is this really the behaviour of a christian minister?

    Comment by VoiceOfReason | May 28, 2008

  6. MM like I said originally I was not aware of a) who Todd Bentley was or that b) He claims to be truthful in these accounts and that these are not the made up illustrations which I initially thought they where taken out of context. After I checked to see the context of his comments there was only one which seemed reasonable and so am ashamed that I found them amusing to begin with.

    I am wary of calling anyone a false prophet as I think the label is used too freely by some against anyone whose views are not 100% in alignment with their own or against people who are only guilty of being taught poorly themselves which then comes out in their teaching.

    However in the case of Todd Bentley from the little I have seen and read and going by what is on his own website is seems that Todd Bentley is at best being decieved, and at worst a false prophet and needs out prayer.

    Comment by Random Remarks | May 28, 2008

  8. MM, I agree 100% with your comment, you said what I sense is about to happen to those who truly follow the Lord Jesus. The Lord didn’t say “if” you suffer for My Name, He said “when”. Count on it church, persecution IS coming to those of us who follow Him, speak His Word, love truth and despise evil….I pray we wake up before its too late. Maranatha!

    Comment by Theresa S. | May 28, 2008

  9. What is wrong with the people listening to him, are they crazy or just indoctrinated???!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by poppie | May 29, 2008

  10. It’s not hard to to tell whether or not this guy is from the Lord., if you know your Bible.- Just compare his teachings/actions with Biblical teachings and examples.We are to get knowledge from God’s Word, not some man on a stage or tv screen.

    2 Timothy 3:16
    All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

    If we don’t know what the Bible teaches, or follow anyone who isn’t preaching Biblical truth alone, we are setting ourselves up to be deceived by God Himself:

    2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 : and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

    We can’t blame Todd or anyone else on judgement day. We are responsible for knowing the truth and adhering to it. The “spirit of the air” is pulling out all the stops to deceive even believers. Let’s encourage people to read the Word and stop watching tv for knowledge.

    Hebrews 4:12
    For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

    Comment by Roxylee | June 19, 2008

  11. You obviously don’t believe in the baptism of the Holy Spirit either. What does the Bible say about those who have a form of Godliness but deny the power there of? In the book of Acts they were told to tarry in Jerusalem until they were endued with power from on high. When they received it they spoke in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. Then they began to preach with boldness and there were signs and wonders where ever they went! Also, Jesus put mud on a blind mans eyes and instructed him to go wash in the river Jordan. This could sound cruel, too! If the person was healed then it must have been God!

    It is dangerous to judge a move of God and tell people it is not God. The Florida Outpouring is not about Todd Bentley. It is about Jesus Christ and it glorifies HIM! I went there and I saw for myself! There is a level of worship I have not seen in years and it is glorious! The people are totaly sold out to God and to spreading the gospel. They are taking it to the highways and byways. They are p0raying for people in the malls and the resturants and people are getting healed!!! Sure not everybody is healed of everything, yet, but that day may be coming soon. Lets jsut lift up Jesus and praise Him and glorify His name!

    Comment by Becky M | June 20, 2008

  12. I forgot to mention the salvations! They are not only praying for people to be healed only they are leading them to Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior! How many Churches do you know that are going out to the lost World everyday and leading many to Christ and praying for their needs and seeing instant answers?

    Also there focus is impartation to spread this revival all over the world! My Pastor recommended I go and this revival has brought me so much closer to the Lord! It has encouraged my faith and so much more! I question your discernment and not his. The fruit is on the vine.

    Comment by Becky M | June 20, 2008

  13. Let’s compare Todd Bentley with the Apostle Paul. Paul was a murderer. Not only was he a murderer, but it was Christians that he murdered!

    He was God’s chosen instrument to bring salvation, and God gave him visions and profound insights, that Bible scholars spend their lives trying to understand. Being born again and baptised symbolizes the old things being swept clean, and the old nature crucified while a new nature is born, through the power of God’s Spirit. It’s all in Romans 8…there is therefore now no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus, for the law of the Spirit of life SET US FREE from the law of sin and death.

    If Todd Bentley is to be discredited as a Christian and a minister, then Jesus died for nothing, because that means you don’t believe in His saving power.

    Comment by Misty Windfall | June 24, 2008

  14. Misty – how can you so completely miss the point. Paul WAS a murderer but repented. When he taught the Christians he was a changed man. If he was still a murderer he would not have been allowed to speak to teach them. Whe he spoke he spoke truth not error and was not a false prophet. David was a murderer and ditto, he repented and got right with God. His Psalms were true prophetically.

    Todd Bentley still lies, sins and is unrepentent and is not right with God, yet is let loose to savage the flock as a wolf. He falsely prophesies and teaches antichrist teaches and imparts demonic rubbish. That’s the issue. So why are you defending him?

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | June 24, 2008

  15. Misty- that is a non-sequitur. How does disbelief in Bentley amount to Jesus’ dying for nothing?

    Any True Believer would from a doctrinally-correct viewpoint discredit him- Bentley.

    Christ died to set us free from delusion. Not so that we should labor under them some more- in the shadowy forms of Bentley and Co.

    Comment by Mitchell | August 30, 2008

  16. I heard of this video and just now watched it. It is sickening. How wicked of us, as the church, to be so hungry for the “unusual and radical(typical word used by “off” preachers)that we would laugh at and endorse such juvenile,false, violent antics, lies, demonstrations and scams. I wish everyone Bentley ever kicked, punched, pushed, or touched would bring a class action lawsuit against him and everyone who endorsed him.(I think the possibility of a lawsuit is why all the so-called apostles are trying to weasel their way out of their part of setting Todd up and orchestrating the whole Lakeland debacle.

    Comment by DoubleGrace | September 18, 2008


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