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More slam bam moves from Todd Bentley on Lakeland Florida Outpouring Stage

Further to the video here Todd Bentley Choking the Flock / showing some of Todd Bentley’s wrestling moves, here’s another one where Todd knees someone is the stomach – after apparently being ‘led’ to by the Lord.

Thanks to the person who shared this link with me. Watch this video from the four minute mark. Todd Bentley is evidently mocking God’s people in it, and doing it for show. Note the smirk.

All Todd Bentley and Lakeland articles here

May 28, 2008 - Posted by endtimespropheticwords | False Prophets and Teachers, Fresh Fire, Fresh Fire ministries, Healing, Holy Laughter, Latter Rain, Prophecy, Revival, Smith Wigglesworth, Todd Bentley, signs and wonders | , , , , , , , | 56 Comments

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  1. During the 3 hour session I watched on Lakeland a couple of weeks back I saw Todd Bentley on the platform “head-but” one guy in the stomach, whereupon the guy folded and went down under the “cranial anointing”!

    Comment by Brian Johnson | May 28, 2008

  2. That was the fakest knee to the gut I’ve ever seen. Even from a pro-wrestling stand point that was horrible. His testimony sounded way to much like Todd’s when he saw an angel that took him onto an operating table and pulled his guts out.

    Jesus stands in the midst of the lamp-stands exhorting us to hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches – we’ve left our first love, holding to doctrines of Balaam teaching each other to eat things sacrificed to idols, allowing the spirit of Jezebel to seduce our prophets and pastors, thinking we have a name but don’t, and being lukewarm. And Jesus tells us that He is coming soon! Are we prepared? Im sure Peter in Acts said money and gold I do not have but what I do have I give to you . . . In the name of BAAAAMMM!!! – NOT!

    Please Lord pleeeaassse, turn this man around! Open his eyes to the truth, let a donkey or something talk to him if he wont listen to you and casue him to repent.

    Does anyone remember Marjoe Gortner? If not google his name, maybe this will wake you up.

    Grace and Peace to you

    Comment by seventy2 | May 28, 2008

  3. Heresay is so easily spotted, it’s amazing people follow this non sense. What foolish stupidity.

    kush

    Comment by kushisaac | May 28, 2008

  4. What a joy of being touched by God in an unique way! Who cares on how he or she are receiving an impartation from God? Imagine Jesus spiting on the eyes of a blind man recorded in Mar 8:23. Today people would surely say “he is evidently mocking God’s people”! Wake up.

    Comment by sentinelle | May 28, 2008

  6. And, here’s some video of this same guy — the recipient of Bentley’s knee anointing — which is very disturbing:

    http://www.deceptionbytes.com/DemonicVisitation

    Comment by Lee | May 29, 2008

  7. There’s a video of that same guy on the mic wearing the blue shirt, that was in a hotel room with two other guys, and Todd wasn’t one of them. Anyway, they were in the room, and they got into the so-called anointed laughing. It was so fake it defies description. They were forcing themselves to laugh, I know because me and my friends when we were kids use to do the same thing. And God wasn’t even on our minds, so I know it when I see it.

    People can’t see this guy supposivley had the “guts taken out experience” similar to Todd’s, is all faked and made up, then I feel sorry for you. That was staged I bet on it, just another way for Todd to justify his so-called experience he told everyone as a confirmation.

    This nation hasn’t seen the last of this nonsense, I even hate to say that, because people are taking SIN and HELLLL way to lightly, so thus God is sending this strong delusion to people who do not love the TRUTH OF JESUS CHRIST for the remission and repentance of SIN.

    I’ve been contemplating and seeking God about this movement, and I think I’m starting to come to the conclusion, that Todd is a fake, he knows he is and don’t care. Because in his deluded mind, he more than likely don’t even believe in the God of the bible, thus the reason for him not willing to read from it.

    Funny you mention to people who really believe in these movements of SIN and HELL and they nearly RUN the other way. They change the topic real fast, and it’s because they’re not receiving conviction in these movements, like they should be! The God of these movements is NOT the God of the bible, if it was, then it would be actually a cruel God, just like a parent who gives their child no correction in the end it actually ruins the child’s life. God is NOT in the give me give me papa what I want and when I want it business!!! The REAL GOD of the bible LOVES US so much he would rather brake you into a million pieces to prepare you for ALL ETERNITY than to just give you anything knowing it would ultimately lead you into the PITS OF HELL!
    But if you really want your will and not Gods will then go ahead fall for these movements, and you’ll get what you want. And guess what.. you won’t have to even hear about sin and hell, and even be convicted of it, your ears and your eyes will be in delight, and you’ll walk away from it with a seared conscience. God be with you, to wake you up after words. PLEASE PEOPLE if you find every reason to try and justify these movements, then stop and reconsider, the MASSSES NEVER came to JESUS even though they have had the words JESUS on their lips, their HEART was for from him!!!

    Comment by Ron | May 29, 2008

  8. sentinelle,

    Last night a recieved a visit from an angel of the lord, and right there in my room, the angel body-slammed me to the ground, and while I was lying there, the angel gave me the atomic elbow from the top turnbuckle. When I got up, the angel held out his hand to me, in a show of friendship. As I went to shake his hand, another angel came up from behind me and hit me on the back of the head with a metal folding chair.

    When I finally came to, the angels told me that if I wanted an impartation from God, I had to go to the End Times Prophetic web site and post my experience here. That is how I got my impartation from God.

    One caution to you, however – please don’t reply to this and try to shed any kind of doubt on my experience. I mean, why should you care how I got my impartation from God, don’t try to take away the joy I have of being touched by God in a unique way.

    Oh, and after my experience, I woke up.

    Comment by Andy | May 29, 2008

  9. Ron,

    I’ve got a different take on the the video you reference and which I posted from another site @ comment #6 above. I don’t think it’s fake; I think it’s demonic. No different than Toronto/Pensacola, etc. Watch how when the man in the blue shirt finally gets up off the floor and points his hand at the other guy who’s lying on the bed and how this guy starts moving as if being pulled or pushed by the hand gestures. Weird.

    Comment by Lee | May 29, 2008

  10. Andy: I’ll respond to your experience, and not even worry about your caution either. I would like to ask you one question, not that I expect the truth from you more than likely I won’t get it. But how did it feel to be body slammed, elbowed, hit on the head with a chair?

    Personally I think your lying, not I can prove you are, but neither can you prove what you just said either!

    So please with all due respect, next time if you have some vision or whatever you call it, then make sure JESUS gets the credit he deserves, and edify the body of Christ with it. Because NOTHING you said is biblical at all, and not is it not biblical, it’s downright silly. You in a wrestling match with angels, sounds like you lost by the way. HMMMM…you know Michel and the angles fought against the devil and his angels too, and guess what the devil and his angels lost!! So maybe it is biblical looking at it in that perspective.

    So just maybe you had a misconception of your vision if indeed you even had it..?
    You made your caution as if we weren’t to question you, but my bible says fear NO man.
    And don’t worry I can’t take your joy from you, if you do have the joy of God, there really is no need to even suggest it, if you have doubts about it even happening then just maybe your the one in doubt!!! For how can anyone steal your joy that God can give you. Besides you mentioned it for all the world to see didn’t you? Yes you did, you must be asking for either conformation to it, or debate for it..?

    Comment by Ron | May 29, 2008

  11. Andy,

    Great! Now if you can, plan to go to Lakeland and receive more impartation for there is much more of God’s love and presence! The testimonies are wonderful and God is doing a new thing in these days. Luke 7:22 “Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.”

    Comment by sentinelle | May 29, 2008

  12. PS ANDY: If your post was a joke, please next time post it as a disclaimer, it’s real hard to see past subliminal messages, when one doesn’t know where someone is coming from. If that is the case then disregard mt last post.

    Comment by Ron | May 29, 2008

  13. endtimesprohpeticwords: That link you posted “Latest video from Florida revival, Todd Bentley”. Looks to me like it’s actually mocking God. I was searching for discernment while watching it, and what I seen actually shocked me. It’s like I could actually see demons in the spirit realm mocking God. These people really have no idea, that their actually tools of demonic influence. I say this not worrying about blasphemy either because I have seen and known and walked in the true way of the Lord Jesus, but I bet these people haven’t, and so they just think this is the move of the Holy Spirit.

    I would actually go so far as to say that some are being infilled by demons, SERIOUSLY, I really believe that’s what’s going on! If they aren’t there with God in mind and aren’t really searching for God and just are willing to except whatever comes their way, then they are open to demons because they aren’t really converted and washed by the blood of Jesus Christ, and some may not even care to be converted either, they’re just looking for the “new move”.

    And whatever spirit is in operation there is going to manifest in them, and it sure isn’t the Holy Spirit moving there!!!

    Comment by Ron | May 29, 2008

  14. Ron: I agree with you.

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | May 29, 2008

  15. Lee: I’ll check that link out thanks.

    Comment by Ron | May 29, 2008

  16. Have you ever noticed in Scriptures the only people that does all the shakings, convulsions, throwing themselves on the ground, etc. are demon-possessed? Not once ever recorded that the apostles and their disciples did that. No apostles ever bammed, kneed, head-butted, punched, or flailed all about when they casted out demons or prayed for the people’s healings. All they did was to have the inflicted people to look at them like Apostle Peter did to the crippled man and Apostle Paul did to the scorcerer in the book of Acts. They all acted how Jesus would act. I don’t see Jesus acting like Todd Bentley in those crazy, spiritually dark circus shows at Lakeland. The people’s discernment about Todd Bentley and associates are completey gone.

    Comment by Erik U. | May 29, 2008

  17. gosh, you know, the WORST thing is, that no matter how many of these videos you show, no matter how you tell the people who watch these 24/7 that this is evidently WRONG and dangerous, they will only say “have you been there?” etc… I’m really worried for these people.

    Comment by kls | May 29, 2008

  18. The fact that anyone would consider that Andy’s post was NOT a joke makes me realise how crazy all this stuff from Lakeland is! True , some of us have tasted Andy’s humour on other posts. I, for one, am so disturbed by what’s going on, and so fearful how many I know are happy to jump on the Bentley Bandwagon, that a good laugh (genuine, not fake!) is a welcome relief. So thanks again Andy.

    Comment by Elizabeth A | May 29, 2008

  19. Ron,

    Yes, my post was a joke, satire if you will. It was in response to sentinelle’s post #4. I was trying to use absurdity to show the absurd. My POINT was this:

    If those who defend what’s going on with Bentley have no discernment, if they say that ANYTHING must be from God, then they themselves (if they are consistant), can NEVER shed any doubt on anyone else’s experiences, no matter how stupid, insane, or unlikely.

    If you go to sentinelle’s post #11, you’ll see that’s exactly what happened.

    And Ron, like Elizabeth A says, that what I said might not be a joke just shows how far we’ve sunk. In other words, by the discernment standards used by sentinelle and other Bentley-ites, they would have no choice but to believe Joseph Smith’s encounter that led to the start of Mormanism.

    Comment by Andy | May 29, 2008

  20. sentinelle re:post #11

    First of all, thanks for proving my point. Secondly, you said this:

    “Luke 7:22 “Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.””

    You know, that’s why I love scripture – it is the definer of truth – we don’t have to rely on our own subjective opinions.

    One problem with you using this verse – NONE OF THOSE THINGS mentioned in this verse are happening in Florida. NONE. I think you got the wrong gospel, it’s not Luke 7 you wanted by rather Matthew 7 (specifically verses 15-23)

    Comment by Andy | May 29, 2008

  21. Elizabeth A,

    Now that I’ve imparted ‘holy laughter’ to you, you must not keep it for yourself. Send me $500 and I will send you a ‘holy hankey’. When you recieve it, use it wipe the sweat from under your armpits and then take it to your church to keep the ‘annointing’ flowing.

    Comment by Andy | May 29, 2008

  22. Elizabeth A: I only realized Andy’s post was a joke after I responding to his weird vision lol. This was before reading his other post, I didn’t catch his humour at first. But Andy is making a point, I just hope others who believed what he said was a joke. Im like you though if they believed it to be true then you are correct it is disturbing. But somehow considering I didn’t believe what he said, I felt to challenge it, dog on it Andy, now I feel like I jumped the gun….Oh well.

    Comment by Ron | May 29, 2008

  23. kls,

    EXACTLY!! I’m watching a series on you tube on religious hucksters and one of the main ‘exposers’ of these hucksters is a man named James Randi (not a Christian, he’s a professional skeptic).

    Anyway, Randi often laments the fact that no matter what you say to these people, no matter how much evidence you produce to show the fraud and deceit, people will STILL follow these guys anywhere. He tells of how when he exposed Peter Popoff on the Tonight Show, with irrefutable proof for all to see, the station still got over 100 calls from people who wanted to know how they could get in touch with Popoff – BECAUSE THEY WANTED HIM TO HELP THEM. Amazing.

    Although the secular new media often has an agenda against Christians, they do a MUCH BETTER job of discerning religious con men than the church does. The problem is, the secular news media probably won’t get to Bentley for 5 years or so.

    Comment by Andy | May 29, 2008

  24. Andy: more laughter! More!

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | May 29, 2008

  25. Andy,

    I thought you wanted more of God. Have you been to Lakeland? Have you experienced the love and presence of God in that place? In what basis are you saying that NONE of these things are happening there? I have gone there several times and I can give my testimony of God setting people saved, delivered and healed. My sister got healed. Who are we to deny what God is doing? Since you say you got a touch from God through your experience, do not stop there. Go with an open heart and be blessed. It is foolishness to argue against facts just like the blind man when he was questioned by the Pharisees. “I was blind, but now I see”. So I encourage you to go and enjoy deeper the love of God.

    Comment by sentinelle | May 30, 2008

  26. Miriam,

    ….have that credit card ready….

    Comment by Andy | May 30, 2008

  27. sentinelle,

    When you say that people are getting saved, it shows that you do not know what biblical salvation is. In the parable of the soils, Jesus Himself talks of how many will ’spring up with joy’ but they will wither away.

    And you want to talk about facts – the fact is that the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of salvations in the West at conferences like this are false conversions. Check out the fruit of Charles Finney’s ministry – in his own words, and you’ll see that that’s true. Billy Graham has said similar things.

    Are far as being healed, what about the person Todd Bentley proclaimed healed who died a few days later? If you’re going to point to his supposed healings as proof that this is from God, then shouldn’t you be consistant and believe that if Bentley claimed someone was healed and then they died, that that would be proof that this wasn’t from God?

    And another thing on healing, Jesus said (I’m so sick of posting this – just pick up your bible people) that many false prophets would appear and do many signs and wonders. How clear does Jesus have to make this?

    HEALINGS, SIGNS, AND WONDERS, IN AND OF THEMSELVES, DO NOT, REPEAT – DO NOT, PROVE THAT SOMETHING IS FROM GOD.

    If you refuse to believe that, then you are refusing to believe the bible.

    And one more question (Please answer biblically):

    What is it that God can ONLY do for someone in Lakeland Florida that He can’t do for me right here in my own home, or with me ministering and fellowshiping with my local congregation. – Hint: John 4:21-24

    Comment by Andy | May 30, 2008

  28. The more I see, the more I hear, the more I tremble at the thought of what is being done there in Lakeland. Every God fearing born again believer wants to see revival come. What I see here are demonic manifestatiions being passed off as the Holy Spirit. The great Revival of Azusa Street came about because of intense prayer, fasting that at times lasted for days, and most importantly coming before the Lord with humilty in their hearts and repentance on their lips.The focus was on seeking the face of Jesus and submitting and surrendering completely to him . What is happening here is all about self promotion and making as much money as possible. I don’t have to “Come and get some” as their battle cry seems to be. I have the presence of the Holy Spirit right here. The presence of the Holy Spirit was Jesus’s gift to us. He left us with the Holy Spirit to comfort and guide us. The Holy Spirit is not something we need to chase after all over the globe.

    Comment by Robin | May 30, 2008

  29. I don’t want to be the one with the mind in the sewer, but I just had to point this out. Did you anybody notice that when he went on the floor after the supposed knee in the gut impartation, that he began to thrust his pelvis wildly. It looked like the man was having sex with the floor. I’m sorry but I am having a really hard time believing that God had anything to do with this. Todd Bentley is a fraud, I can discern a spirit of affectation that is working in him and through him in a big way . He is well on his way to an academy award for the worst actor. He is putting on like nobody’s business, nevertheless; God will put a stop to this foolishness sooner rather than later. Just because God doesn’t stop somebody doesn’t mean he can’t. God is letting him run out his grace period before he begins to penalize him for mocking Him and the body of Christ. I pray God’s mercy for him and other’s like him. “God is not mocked whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap” I’m not into agriculture, and I definitely don’t have a green thumb, but I know for sure that what you put in the ground is always smaller than what comes out. Todd Bentley is planting seeds in the people of his congregation that are nothing but weeds. He will soon find out if he ever calms down, and stops acting crazy and decides to be a real pastor, all of his little weeds will be growing wildly, and he will look out into the pews and sanctuary and watch with a guilt laden heart as his sheep stand in the isle having Holy Ghost seizures, whinnying like horses, bleating like sheep,laughing like Hyena’s and speaking in tongues all over top of one another. He will put his head in his hands once he realizes that he is pastor of a pitiful three ringed circus. It doesn’t end there, all of his little weeds will go out to infest other churches and cause trouble wherever they go until they are either killed (death of the carnal man) or change religions all together thinking it’s the churches fault that they can’t seem to fit in anywhere they go. Todd Bentley is an abusive pastor in so many ways, if he does not change, his hands will be dripping buckets of blood on judgment day.

    Comment by anointedvessel | May 30, 2008

  30. yes, and there you have it. exactly what I was talking about. see the second post above this one.

    Comment by kls | May 30, 2008

  31. Just a question…do any of these people ‘manifest’ while driving, shopping, etc.

    I would think a loving God would not put us in so much danger with such a ‘powerful anointing’ on us to cause wrecks or injuring ourselves and others when out and about without people to catch us.

    There’s been mentioning of people needing ‘designated drivers’ after a meeting/revival….WHAT!! How are you supposed to go about doing God’s work if you’re too caught up being ‘drunk/hungover in the spirit’! Doesn’t it talk about not being a drunkard in the bible. I think being a drunkard would apply to anything that incapacitates your ability to function with a sound mind, not just imbibing alcohol drunk.

    Comment by servant | May 30, 2008

  32. The judgement day will come and its gonna be done by Christ and Christ only. Let us work for our salvation with fear and trembling. If you feel that Todd is perfoming miracles with the inspiration of the demons, its not for you to judge. The Bible says ” Judgement is going to begin in the house of the Lord”, ask yourself, why?

    Shine

    Comment by Shine | May 30, 2008

  33. Andy,
    I’ve only just read your response. Will the hanky have your initials on it like Don Stewarts do? Maybe some Vanilla Essence for good measure?

    Joking apart though, I had a conversation about Todd Bentley in my local Christian Bookshop today, and was overheard by a couple who joined in. Apparently the anointing has arrived in this town, meetings are being held, etc. Worryingly these lovely people knew nothing of Todds beliefs re angels, third heaven, pillar of fire…and of course they came out with the ‘wait and see’, ‘we don’t want to miss God’, ‘look for the fruit’, ‘don’t judge by the way he looks’ and so on. I can’t believe so few people are questioning any of this. I do despair.

    Comment by Elizabeth A | May 30, 2008

  34. Elizabeth A,

    Yes, most assuradly, the hanky will have my initials on it, along with a very tiny hs for the Holy Spirit. Not only that, but the embroidering will be in a special gold dust that fell from my hair, and sealed with a special blessed holy oil that miraculously drained from my sinuses on to the hanky.

    But, alas, there may be something that is holding back your miracle hanky – it seems that (maybe by some clerical error on our part), we are not yet in possession of your credit card number. As you know, God’s blessing CAN NOT start until we get those digits. (Can I get an AMEN!!!)

    Comment by Andy | May 30, 2008

  35. Andy,
    I was marketing my Holy Babyless Bathwater. It’s recyclable, so if you throw it out…it will come back as something else.

    Do you think we could anoint your hankies with it?

    P.S.
    We’ve kept the babies out of the water so no one gets offended.

    Comment by servant | May 30, 2008

  36. I would like to point out that we have an obligation to use the discernment with which we’ve been blessed and indeed make judgements as to whether or not something is real.As always, when interpreting a Bible verse, the context in which it appears needs to be considered. So below is the entire paragraph in which the above verse appears.

    1″Stop judging, so that you* shall not be judged, 2for with what judgment you* judge, you* will be judged, and with what measure you* measure, it will be measured to you.* 3But why do you look at the speck, the [one] in your brother’s eye, but you do not notice the log, the [one] in your own eye? 4Or, how will you say to your brother, ‘Allow [me], I shall take the speck from your eye,’ and look!, the log [is] in your own eye? 5Hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye” (Matthew 7:1-5).

    In this passage, Jesus is addressing hypocrisy. He is saying that we will be judged by whatever standards we set for others. So we need to be careful in making such judgments. We need to be sure that we are not engaging in the behaviors that we condemn others for. So in this sense, we do need to “worry about ourselves.” But Jesus ends the passage by saying, “then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.” So He says we should try to correct other’s behaviors once we have dealt with our own.

    It is also helpful in interpreting a verse of the Bible to see what other passages have to say that address the subject. In this case, Paul elaborates on these same issues in his Epistle to the Romans:

    For this reason, you are without excuse [or, defense], O person, every[one] judging, for in what you judge [or, pass sentence on] the other, you condemn yourself, for the same [things] you, the one judging, are practicing! (Romans 2:1)

    21Therefore, the one teaching another, you teach yourself, do you not? The one preaching not to steal, do you steal? 22The one saying not to be committing adultery, do you commit adultery? The one detesting the idols, do you rob temples [or, commit sacrilege]? (Romans 2:21,22).

    In these verses, Paul makes it clear that hypocrisy is in view. He is declaring that those who do the things they condemned others for are “without excuse.” He even mentions teaching in this regard. And this could refer to the teaching of doctrine. But again, the main point is, if you are teaching a particular doctrine, do you truly believe it yourself?

    The point is, there is nothing in such verses that forbids the judging of the beliefs and behaviors of others. In fact, Paul is judging those who are engaging in behaviors they condemn in others. We just need to be sure we do not fall into this category

    Comment by Robin | May 30, 2008

  37. Servant: love it!

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | May 30, 2008

  38. andy: I see you are a marketplace prophet, and have an anointing of prophetic humour!

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | May 30, 2008

  39. Hi Guys,
    Really enjoyed reading all the comments, they have cheered me up! Seriously though I can not believe that this is happening, that people are so blind and full of apethy, it is so sad! My Church is going big for Todd Bentley, the pastor is up there with all the fleshies. I can not stay worshiping at my Church any longer, it is a really sad day.

    Blessings to you all.

    Comment by Andy Marshall | May 30, 2008

  40. please Andy, head-butt me, I need MORE of your anointment!

    Comment by kls | May 30, 2008

  41. Guys,

    How many times do I have to say it??? The annointing, whether it be by drop kick, flying elbow, Daniel Larussa leg sweep, or old fashioned steel cage death match annointing; none of it can flow without those credit card numbers.

    After all, I am a profit in a non-prophet organization.

    Comment by Andy | May 31, 2008

  42. Andy,
    Will you please kick me in the choppers to get the healin?
    Even dropkick me across the room… whatever it takes. I’ll contact your peeps with my card info.

    Comment by Mary | May 31, 2008

  43. Mary,

    I’m gettin’ something from the angel of finance… I see a series of numbers – 14, no 15, no, no it’s 16. Yes, I’m certain it’s 16. And I’m getting a vision – no wait, not VISION, but rather VISA… Yes, it’s definately VISA.

    My child, rejoice, ’cause YOU ARE HEALED!!!!

    Now be sure to continue to bathe using my special annointed holy spirit lavender bubble bath. (Available for only $79.99 a bottle at our online store.

    REJOICE!!!!!

    Comment by Andy | May 31, 2008

  44. Andy Marshall

    I am standing in the same place waiting for our pastor to take a stand on this .it worries me as many red flags were shown to him but it seemed that he chose to ignore them. he went to the show this week so I’m expecting a position to be stated this sunday.either way it will split the church. like you my heart is very heavy on what will become of this other than satan getting a laugh at us as he deceives more and more into these shananigans.

    Comment by davidw | May 31, 2008

  45. Andy!
    I’m crying into my Special K now! Maybe you could hold an Andy-thon. Phone lines are open.

    Comment by Elizabeth A | May 31, 2008

  46. I love it, Andy! :D
    I burst out in holy laughter again.

    Comment by kls | May 31, 2008

  47. an interesting sentence from Todd Bentley in this vid, at 1:04 he says: “if you are really hungry you can receive anything” … note: anything.

    Comment by kls | May 31, 2008

  48. Andy,

    Nothing has changed, isn’t that something? So it was in Jesus time in the earth so it is today. Are you saying that all the healing and salvations of souls that are occurring in Lakeland and other places are just fake and from the devil? So it was with the pharisees accusing Jesus of working under Satan’s power (Mat 12) so it is today. Then we see Jesus’ disciples calling Him a “spirit” or “ghost” in the midst of the sea (Mat 14:26). They did not recognize Him and so it is in our days with so many Christians acting in the same way. So many do not enter into their promise land because of their unbelief. It is so easy to bring all kinds of accusations and judgments, isn’t that true? If God does not fit into our “box” and perception of things, we start callig Him and His works as something of the devil. Nothing new…

    We can see every night so many people lost and sick being saved and healed. Isn’t this the power of Jesus’ love being manifested? This is the moment for the hungry and thirsty for more of Him. And this fire of God will keep going on as long as people continue thirsty and hungry for Him. You may not be desperate for more of God, but other are. So there is nothing you and I can do to stop this.

    And I have more good news! Do not worry about the “credit card numbers”. The entrance is free!!! So wake up!

    Comment by sentinelle | June 1, 2008

  49. This is not a Christain blog, if it is the people will walk in love and not be critical of this Move of God. Time will tell and if you think God is not real, I CHALLENGE you to go and take a look!! After all, what hv you got to loose and if it is real God hv mercy on you and bless you!!!

    Comment by Kara Yeo KM | June 1, 2008

  50. I don’t see people here saying that God is not real. I for one will not follow any man blindly just because he says he hears from God . I hear from God too . We all can if we have that intimate relationship with him. What I will do is use my God given gift of discernment to weigh what I see and hear. The only person that I will follow without question is Jesus. No doubt there will be people who come to Christ through attending Lakeland and that is because of the power of Jesus, only the power of Jesus and not some mere man or woman.

    Comment by Robin | June 1, 2008

  51. To the guy who told the story about being bashed over the head(with a folding chair)by an angel-I for one found it quite humorous and really enjoyed it.I agree with you 100%.anyone can tell anything,no matter how outlandish,and who can prove it didnt happen!!I saw the episode of the Revival where Todd hit a guy with cancer ,in the abdomen,with his knee.I tried to tell this to some other Christians,and they thought I was making it up..it is pretty absurd!Maybe he will use a chair next time,who knows?Thanks for a good laugh!

    Comment by alease davis | June 2, 2008

  52. I am very happy for anyone who has recieved Jesus Christ,through the Florida Healing revival,or anywhere else the heard about Christ.You still must be very careful.I actually accepted Jesus through a CULT,The Church of Bible Understanding!They taught just enough truth for a person to find Christ,It was like having 10% truth,mixed with 90% false,desructive teachings.Anytime the simple message of salvation is proclaimed,people will find Jesus.That doesnt mean that all kinds of heresy,false teachings,ridiculous behavior is somehow O.K.What path are we being led down,Christians?Doesnt this seem outrageous to anyone else?

    Comment by alease davis | June 2, 2008

  53. Good point Alease. I should have made that point as well. Thanks for adding clarity

    Comment by Robin | June 2, 2008

  54. Well, a knee to the gut (or a kick in the nuts) puts them down and writhing for the “Slain in the Spirit” claim…

    Bashed over the head by an angel with a folding chair?

    That clinches it; Todd Bentley is trying to get on Wrestlecrap — “Just like WWE, except CHRISTIAN!” What’s next, “Bentley 3:16″ T-shirts knocking off Steve Austin?

    Comment by Ken | June 24, 2008

  55. Do Not Believe Todd Bently
    1BELOVED, DO not put faith in every spirit, but prove (test) the spirits to discover whether they proceed from God; for many false prophets have gone forth into the world.
    2By this you may know (perceive and recognize) the Spirit of God: every spirit which acknowledges and confesses [the fact] that Jesus Christ (the Messiah) [actually] has become man and has come in the flesh is of God [has God for its source];

    3And every spirit which does not acknowledge and confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh [but would [a]annul, destroy, [b]sever, disunite Him] is not of God [does not proceed from Him]. This [[c]nonconfession] is the [spirit] of the antichrist, [of] which you heard that it was coming, and now it is already in the world.

    4Little children, you are of God [you belong to Him] and have [already] defeated and overcome them [the agents of the antichrist], because He Who lives in you is greater (mightier) than he who is in the world.

    5They proceed from the world and are of the world; therefore it is out of the world [its [d]whole economy morally considered] that they speak, and the world listens (pays attention) to them.

    6We are [children] of God. Whoever is learning to know God [progressively to perceive, recognize, and understand God by observation and experience, and to [e]get an ever-clearer knowledge of Him] listens to us; and he who is not of God does not listen or pay attention to us. By this we know (recognize) the Spirit of Truth and the spirit of error.

    7Beloved, let us love one another, for love is (springs) from God; and he who loves [his fellowmen] is begotten (born) of God and is coming [progressively] to know and understand God [to perceive and recognize and get a better and clearer knowledge of Him].

    8He who does not love has not become acquainted with God [does not and never did know Him], for God is love.

    Lord Bless All Of You

    Comment by godskid | June 26, 2008

  56. Todd Bentley~ Peter Wagner ~Star Gates~ Synchromysticism~ the Wizards of the NEW AGE Christ ~ New Age Light of Lucifer
    TAKING A GENERATION FOR THEIR GODS
    Fantasy- dramatic magical – Si-fi — Milky-Way Christianity has arrived. Synchronism of Christianity with mysticism is now at the center of the world’s stage which I view as an attempt of using dramatic magic to become concepts take their quantum leap to godhood. These ministers are wizards and witches of the New Age. They think of themselves as the sages of the Christian Church to bring it to a new mystical age of supernaturalism to join their gods, the Ascended Masters of the New Age.
    “For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. “ (Gen 3:5).KJV
    STARGATES
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-imN9RiFVns&feature=related
    WHO WILL YOU FOLLOW? TODD BENTLEY AND PETER WAGNER AND HIS APOSTLES PROPHETS OR JESUS?
    “How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? “ (Jn. 5:44).KJV
    “That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life,” (Jn. 3:15-16).
    ALEISTER CROWLEY AND ANTICHRIST REVIVAL
    I find evidences of powerful connections with these New Age Christian’s doctrines of opening the Star Gates and the famous Satanist Aleister Crowley? This Satanist investigated other dimensional beings and attempted to create a dimensional vortex star gate. He wanted to bridge the gap between the world of the seen and the unseen. He developed a ritual called the
    Alamantria Working and according to Crowley, he became successful when he conjured up a presence manifested itself. He called this being “Lamb” that is amazingly similar to the modern pop culture of the greys.
    Fifty years later: Jack Parsons, October 2, 1914 – died June 17, 1952), was an American rocket propulsion researcher at the California Institute of Technology and co-founder of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) and Aerojet Corporation. He was also an enthusiastic occultist, and one of the earliest American devotees of Aleister Crowley did another ritual called the Babylon Working. He wanted to incarnate the spirit of Babylon to our current generation. Parsons was also an avid practitioner of the occult arts, and a follower of Thelema. He saw no contradiction between his scientific and magical pursuits: before each rocket test launch, Parsons would invoke the god Pan.
    QUANTUM LEAP INTO GODHOOD AND NEW AGE
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/3822823/-Todd-Bentley-Peter-Wagner-Star-Gates-Synchromysticism-the-Wizards-of-the-NEW-AGE-Christ-

    Comment by pat holliday | July 8, 2008


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