John Arnott Promoting Catch the Fire Soaking Prayer Centres

The Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship led by John Arnott, kicked out by the Vineyard Association of Churches for being too heretical (which reminds me – when is the Albany Vineyard of Denny Cline and Steve Schulz of the Elijah List fame going to get their marching orders from the Vineyard?), plan to have thousands of ‘Catch the Fire Soaking Prayer Centres’   all over the world, so people can go to ‘catch the fire’ or ’soak’. 

Note this ’soaking’ is not about seeking God’s face in prayer, it is not even about going to God, it is about going to an ‘anointed location’ to manifest with the manifestations made popular during the Toronto Blessing, Brownsville-Pensacola Revival and now the Lakeland Outpouring. You just lay back on a giant beanbag and “buzz” while your empty head and receptive heart receives all that comes in from “the Spirit”. Hmm. The one rule is ‘don’t pray as it blocks it’. 

But how can prayer really block the Holy Spirit? It cannot!  Does the Holy Spirit, rather,  not honour prayer and help us to intercede? How can actively using one’s God-given mental facilities hinder reception of God, His Holy Spirit and His blessings? Does not the Holy Spirit, rather lead us into all truth, and enlighten our minds?  We become saved through actively using our minds and confessing our sins and repenting of them – and confessing with our lips Jesus as Lord. We recieve the greatest gift by intentional acts of the will involving the intellect. We do not get saved by going to a soaking centre and just laying down like a zombie! No! And Jesus commanded us to pray actively asking with our wills and minds and not like pagans. All the people mentioned in the gospels actively used their minds and wills (where possible) to recieve their healing. And it is while actively praying that the Holy Spirit fell at Pentecost – the greatest argument about empty headed soaking possible!

Prayer and thinking cannot hinder God’s giving or our reception of his gifts (unless the prayer or thinking is wrong in content)! It is only people who are promoting a hypnotic mesmeric trance state, or worse, knowingly pushing an antichrist impartation, who order people not to think, and not to pray and just ‘recieve’. And those that do not love truth – who are afraid what it will reveal eg (their true colours) – who demand the flock not to discern. This is the stuff of cults, my friends.

See this video here for more information http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbJCeU-z87s 

Note that at around the 1.40 minute mark of this video, John and Carol Arnott are clear come to say that ‘any denomination’ including Roman Catholic, can go to these soaking centres to get ‘more of God’s presense’. So it’s not about TRUTH or even salvation anymore, it is about experience and unity by common experience (see here). How can a Roman Catholic even recieve the real baptism of the Spirit when they do not know the gospel, are not born again and still blaspheme and have idols? You may as well open this up to Muslims and Jews of the non Messianic kind. But then that comes next, as they are all sons of Abraham to, right? What comes next?

Also, how can you theologically get MORE of God’s presense? I know these people love to tout this, based on mystical experiences and sensual sensations, but theologically, based on truth how can you as a born again and spirit filled Christian get MORE of God, when He has already given all of Himself to you?  They claim they are uniting believers ‘hungry for more’ - but at the expense of what? Everything the gospel holds dear, it seems.

Did anyone say ‘one world religion’ and ‘antichrist’?