Heavenly Portals, Spiritual Warfare, Kingly Anointing, The Third Temple
The current outpouring leaders, apostles and prophets are claiming that the ‘glory’ of God and ‘anointing’ is particularly manifesting ‘itself’ in particular geographical areas – hence the cry to “get some” from Lakeland or any of the other ‘revival centres’ or ‘hubs’ linked to the New Apostolic Reformation such as Toronto, Atlanta, Heritage and Dudley. The unbiblical and unsubstansiated claim, is that these geographical areas are now under an open heaven thanks to man-made religious activity, in a way other areas are not.
You can read what John Arnott of Toronto said here about angels going around all the past revival locations with new backpacks of anointing here. Prophets Bobby Connor and Bob Jones, like the shamans they are, claim that the Lakeland blessing/revival to America must go through the Native American ‘Gatekeepers’ first here.
Todd Bentley says of open heavens here, in a great distortion of scripture (for heaven opened in the sense scripture means it, when the veil to the Holy of Holies was rent in two after Christ’s death on the cross):
“Open heavens occur over certain geographical areas that are marked by God. For example Jacob experienced an open heaven at a place which he named Bethel (located near a village called Luz, Israel) where he had an amazing dream about a ladder that stretched from earth to heaven with angels ascending and descending on it. When he awoke he “was afraid and said, ‘What an awesome place this is! It is none other than the house of God – the gateway to heaven!’”
Some places, because of their spiritual history, are noted to be locations where people will often experience an open heaven. In fact, there are places where the heavens are open more than in other places. Most of you are familiar with previous moves of God in places such as Toronto (The Toronto Blessing), the meetings in Pensacola, and Argentina, just to name a few. Just like in Jacob’s day, today, there are certain places where heaven is open, geographical locations where you are more likely to have an encounter with God.
In certain places I’ve been blessed with an open heaven, where, in prayer, God gives me His perspective and His heart. Then I have an encounter, an impartation, a heavenly download that I receive out of being in His presence. I begin to see things. I begin to hear things, and I carry that out of the prayer closet, out of that place of having ascended into the heavens in prayer — bring that revelation into the here and now — and the manifestation of that revelation then begins to take place. The bottom line is that God is glorified.
In fact, at the time of the release of this teaching, there is a kingdom invasion happening in a certain place—Lakeland, Florida—dubbed The Florida Outpouring! To God’s glory, what is so amazing is that an open heaven, one open heaven, over one city, literally touches ends of the earth! Just praise Him!!” (Todd Bentley)
Encounters with God
“Encounters with God” in specific locations or specific periods of time hint at a sporadic and intermittant relationship with a distant God more befitting the Old Covenant (though still not agreeing with it) - it certainly does not reflect the New Covenant ongoing relationship with a continually indwelling God who never leaves us or forsakes us, wherever we may be. Todd’s saying is the sort of thing someone who does not really know God or the gospel would say.
I have noted many times where Todd talks about Jesus Christ or the angel of the Lord “coming to him” – sometimes in physical one-on-one visitations - yet apart from the unscriptural, dubious and often contradictory nature of Todd’s visions, the Bible says that Jesus and the Father is already there dwelling within us by His Spirit if we are truly born again (John 14:23). God does not need to “come” to us in this sense each time, He is here by His Spirit continually already.
The claim that there are places where you are ‘more likely’ to have an encounter with God is not a Christian idea, and is more akin to Babylonic Roman Catholicism (which Todd is associated with and has never renounced). For scripture tells us that not only does God make His home in us always, and He will never leave us or forsake us, and that ‘in Him we live and move and have our being’ but that God’s ears are ‘ever attentive to our prayer’ and that ‘with faith we can confidently approach the throne of grace boldly’ and the veil is ripped in two, so we can forever now have access to the Father. It also says we can all with unveiled faces reflect the gloy of God within each one of us.
God does not fragment or compartmentalise Himself into little boxes. If we have Him, we have Him and Have all of Him, all His character and all His resources and all His promises in Christ. How can we then have ‘more’ of Him or more of His glory in this sense, when he and his glory is already within our ‘jars of clay’, let alone when in a certain ‘anointed’ city – even Jerusalem? More submitted to Him, yes. More obedient to Him, and more like Him in character, yes certainly, as with knowing Him more – all through the process of sanctification and an act of our will regardless of locale, but obtaining more of Him and getting better access to Him through a certain man, ministry or a geographical area? No, impossible and Christ denying, as Christ has already given all of Himself, the new and living way is already opened, and we are seated with Christ in all His fullness already.
Even under the less glorious Old Covenant, King David knew God was present everywhere and knew all things and was with him always. Compare what David says in the beautiful Psalm 139 to the current talk of portals and hubs. it is incomparable and ludicrous! Todd’s is another God to David’s that is somehow more reached through these portals than in and through Christ Jesus!
“You hem me in, behind and before, and lay your hand upon me.
Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high; I cannot attain it.Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where shall I flee from your presence?
If I ascend to heaven, you are there! If I make my bed in Sheol, you are there!
If I take the wings of the morning and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, even there your hand shall lead me, and your right hand shall hold me.
If I say, “Surely the darkness shall cover me, and the light about me be night,” even the darkness is not dark to you; the night is bright as the day, for darkness is as light with you.”
Furthermore, ’an encounter with the Father’ is NOT just about spiritual experiences, feelings, manifestations and prophecies. That is a shallow and ignorant faith indeed, and a shallow and ignorant teacher that teaches it! Alas, how many in these times have a crisis of faith when they do not ‘feel’ or ‘experience’ God with them anymore. Scripture says we walk by faith and not by sight, and “sight” in this context can also include feelings, manifestations and spiritual experiences. Sadly today people’s experiences and emotions have become their God as they are led by them over faith. In hard times they often lose it because they have never known or clung hold of the real God as they do not have real faith – which comes through hearing and knowledge of the word.
I am not saying we should not have experiences with God. I am not saying that the reality of our prayer life and relationship does not spill into the present with visible signs and wonders. BUT if that is all there is to our so-called ”relationship with God” – feelings, emotions, experiences, signs and wonders - there is a problem. A major problem. An apostate problem. A life and death problem – away from me, I never knew you!
Ascending into the Heavens
Furthermore, note the arrogance and the scripture twisting in Todd’s phrase; out of that place of having ascended into the heavens in prayer — [i] bring that revelation into the here and now. Todd is claiming HE brings answers to prayers into fruition through his actions of ascending into heaven and then bringing it into the present. He claims to bring the manifestation and glory of God through his own works. What an arrogant Christ-denying man! Even Abraham, a far more godly man than Todd, could not bring the trustworthy revelation of God into the here and now. He tried through his own actions and wrongly birthed Ishmael – an action which the world is still suffering from. Man’s actions in this sense leads to spiritual death.
Note here too Todd’s other arrogant boasts of ascending on high that mimic Satan’s almost word for word such as in this article Lofty Supreme Ruler -
“You see, I want to be fruitful; I want to be far above. I want to be a conqueror; I want to be a mountain of strength; I want to be greatness. You know, we like that word greatness. Well, he who dwells in the secret place of the Most High automatically comes into everything that the Almighty is. It happens.” (Todd Bentley)
Compare this and out of that place of having ascended into the heavens in prayer to Satan’s speech:
“I will ascend to heaven. I will raise my throne above the stars of God, and I will sit on the mount of assembly in the sides of the north. I will ascend the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.” (Isaiah 14: 13-14)
On 23rd June, I heard Todd Bentley blasphemously applying the messianic promises of Psalm 2 to himself. He claimed to be that King that could climb and sit on that Holy Hill (although generously allowed the Wagner’s apostles commissioning him to sit on that Holy Hill with Him, and others that would accept this kingly anointing). He claimed the nations for himself as his inheritance. The nations are Christ’s, nobody else’s. The Lord rebuke Todd and the new apostles for their blasphemy and arrogance! The kingly anointing imparted at Lakeland was an antichrist anointing, as Jesus is the anointed one who inherits the promises of Psalm 2, nobody else – He is that king on that Holy Hill. Todd is claiming to be another anointed King who dares to take Jesus’ throne and therefore removes Jesus off his throne. How dare he!
Rob De Luca’s prophecy of Jesus getting off his throne here is far more chilling in this context. In this false prophecy, Jesus knelt and put a ring on the “bride” – and the apostles commissioned Todd and gave him a ring on that night that Todd preached on Psalm 2 and claimed it for himself and the apostles. There is far more to their action than meets the eye – it was not just about having some kind of fraternity ring!
Portals, Hubs, and Jacob’s Ladders
“Jacob experienced an open heaven at a place which he named Bethel …. ‘What an awesome place this is! It is none other than the house of God – the gateway to heaven!’” (Todd Bentley)
The place Bethel means the ‘house of God’, and the New Testament shows that the house of God is now the body of believers and not in a temple built by human hands, or indeed a specific geographical area.
We heard him say, ‘I’ll tear down this temple made by humans, and in three days I’ll build another temple, one not made by human hands (Mark 14:58]
For we are the temple of the living God! (2 Corinthians 6:16b)
“In whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit” (Eph. 2:21-22).
“Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him. For God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple” (1 Cor. 3:16-17).
“Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body” (1 Cor. 6:19-20)
“I will … set my sanctuary in their midst forevermore. My dwelling place shall be with them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” (Ezekiel 37: 27)
As Jacob says ‘Bethel is the gate of heaven’ so Jesus says ‘I am the gate. Whoever enters through me will be safe, and will come in and go out and find pasture.’ (John 10:9) and I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes unto the Father, but by me (John 14:6) Jesus is the gate and way to heaven.
Scripture demonstrates that Christ is the true Jacob’s ladder and the one who opens heaven.
Truly, truly, I say to you, you will see heaven opened, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man’ (John 1:51)
Adam Clarke comments on this scripture -
“That by the angels of God ascending and descending, is to be understood, that a perpetual intercourse should now be opened between heaven and earth, through the medium of Christ, who was God manifested in the flesh. Our blessed Lord is represented in his mediatorial capacity as the ambassador of God to men; and the angels ascending and descending upon the Son of Man, is a metaphor taken from the custom of despatching couriers or messengers from the prince to his ambassador in a foreign court, and from the ambassador back to the prince.”
Todd Bentley has taught on “hubs” at Lakeland (eg on May 30th). He said God was restoring ‘hubs’ by restoring the apostolic. Todd called Capernaum an example of a HUB, because of the great miracles that Jesus did there, and how Jesus couldn’t perform miracles in His own town, because it WASN’T A HUB! This of course is not even remotely true. Scripture specificaly says it was because the people in Jesus home town lacked faith.
Scripture makes it abundantly clear that all who deny these essential truths as to Jesus being the ONLY gate and the ONLY true ladder are antichrist. Stating that a gateway or portal is found anywhere other than in Christ Jesus (as Todd Bentley et al do) is then not just foolish and wrong and biblically illiterate. To claim that a geographical place is a portal to heaven, or is under an open heaven in this sense, is antichrist. It is an antichrist Jacob’s ladder or an antichrist gateway as it replaces or supercedes Christ, the true gate and door (or portal) that men enter by.
“But Todd preaches Jesus!” some will say. Do not mistakenly think an antichrist has to deny the existense of Jesus to be antichrist! Do not think an antichrist is afraid to use Jesus name for his own end and to preach on Him! Many cults use Jesus name, but their Jesus, though sharing the same name, is different to the real Jesus in character or destiny – hence he is “another Jesus”. All an antichrist has to do is take away from what Christ has done and achieved, effectively create another Jesus and another gospel, and create new gates and portals of his own to ‘heaven’ and thus lead the flock astray from the true Christ and the true gospel. And this can be apparently done in Jesus name as Todd Bentley and the new prophetic movement aptly demonstrate.
Jacob the High Priest and Man-Built Towers Reaching to Heaven
In a vision I had last year, I saw the antichrist ‘priest’ who sat ‘in the temple’ (that is sat extolled among the people of God as they are the true temple of God - he does not need to sit in a literal third temple in Jerusalem) taking blasphemous names upon himself. This ‘High Priest’ had a symbolic blue sapphire stone over his third eye area on a linen strip of cloth wound around his forehead, and his name was figuratively called “Jacob”.
A couple of months ago, I had a dream of this same Jacob being birthed through Todd Bentley’s “revival”, and in another vision, God called what was happening through Todd at Lakeland ’Babel’, and I saw the tower of Babel (that is Babylon) being built up high heavenwards with the work of human hands.
I understand now that this antichrist “Jacob” is a symbol of an antichrist Jacob’s ladder, in that the man (and his group) and his and their words, actions, anointing and impartations and/or his and their geographical places, was in some way claiming to be a ladder to heaven for blessing to come up and down on. This is in place of Jesus Christ - although they use Jesus’ name and mention the cross, it is another Jesus, another cross and another gospel they really point to, as they subtract away from its real victory and message as well as lead to another gate. In the same way, a figurative man-made Tower of Babel made through man made religious works seeks to rise up to heaven’s heights and bring up and down blessing and revelation - bypassing and replacing Jesus Christ, the ONLY living way.
It is noteable that the colour blue I saw on “Jacob” the priest’s forehead is symbolic of the new prophets – for instance they claim the coming religious civil war will be between the blues (them) and the greys (those that adhere to scripture over the new revelation). I also note the blue stone was placed over the third eye area which is the occult chakra gateway for revelation and enlightenment. It is also clear the connections that the new prophetic-apostolic movement have with Babylon, with their pushing for unity, regardless of truth, and their leading to converge with Rome. I also find it interesting that Orosius, the historian, said that the tower of Babel had 25 gates each side. C Peter Wagner has 25 inner apostles in one group as his ’gates’.
The name Jacob also means ‘deciever’.
Other Leading “Christians” Statements re Open Heavens and Portals
Randy Clark (a key player in imparting the Toronto Blessing) says of open heavens and portals:
“I believe Tommy Tenny is right in stating that wherever there has been a visitation in the past that the heavens are thin there and it is easier to receive another visitation. It is easier to punch through, so to speak, through prayer where the heavens are thin.”
John Paul Jackson, a Kansas City prophet, says of portals:
“A heavenly portal is a spherical opening of light that offers divine protection by which angels and heavenly beings can come and go, without demonic interference. God has designed portals to begin in the third Heaven, travel through the second Heaven, and open upon Earth.”
Patricia King (Todd’s spiritual mother) says on ‘Opening “PORTALS OF GLORY” here -
“A “portal” is an opening (door, window, or opening). A heavenly portal or a glory portal is a heavenly opening through which God’s goodness manifests. I have seen a portal in a vision and it was a circular opening where a column of light poured down into the earth. There were angels ascending and descending.”
Note how the angels ascending and descending refers directly to Jesus claim in John 1:51 to be the ONLY Jacob’s Ladder and ‘portal’ to heaven, and so any other portal to advance up and down on “heavenwards” is biblically antichrist. Patricia King prophesies by the spirit of the antichrist, though she does it “in Jesus’ name”!
Patricia King then goes on to say that:
”Portals can be opened over:
- Your personal life. When you have a portal of glory opened over your life, everywhere you go, the blessings and favor of God are evidenced.
- Any land that you own.
- Your church.
- Your community.
- Your nation.
The following are ways that you can position yourself to open portals of glory:
- Obedience Deuteronomy 28:1-13
- Tithes and offerings Malachi 3:10-12
- Repentance Example of Christ’s identificational repentance at His baptism Matthew 3:14-17; Dan 9,10
- Worship and Praise 2 Chronicles 5:13,14 (the singers/musicians at the dedication of Solomon’s temple declared, “The Lord is good and His mercy endures forever.” Praising God for His goodness and mercy creates an environment for the glory.
- Prayer 2 Chronicles 7:13,14
- Faith Hebrews 11:1
HINDRANCES TO OPENING PORTALS OF GLORY
- Unbelief
- Lack of understanding on covenant and new creation realities.
- Fear of the unknown
- Fear of not receiving.
- Jealousy, competition and strife.
- Critical or judgmental attitudes.
- Unconfessed sin
- Lack of consecration to God.”
There is nothing about Jesus being the mediator here, or His finished work – it is all about our own manmade religious works.
This is what Rick Joyner claims about Todd and open heavens in a recent prophetic bulletin here:-
“I saw faith become a fist that punched a hole through an overcast of clouds. This was the demonic oppression over America. As the holes opened up, angels started pouring through them. The bigger the holes were, the more angels that were coming through them. They were carrying the resources of heaven that included everything we needed. Heaven is about to invade earth. This is going to cause a great distinction to develop between those who know and serve the Lord, and those who do not.
Todd Bentley did punch a hole through the darkness over Lakeland, and heaven has been pouring through the hole, and it is getting bigger. What is happening in Lakeland is stirring up the faith of many more. The “faith barometer” has begun to rise all over the body of Christ. Now many others are reaching up to do the same thing. The sizes of the holes are dependent on the size of our faith. I pray that what is happening in Lakeland keeps going and keeps growing, but what is now being released will go on regardless of how long the revival goes on in Lakeland. A fire has been started that is already too big to stop.”
Note the reference to a type of Jacob’s ladder again, that angels ascend and descend by to carry the “resources of heaven and everything we needed”. And this is because an evil and blasphemous man, Todd Bentley, “punched” a hole in the heavens, as compared to the figurative punch in the air of triumph by a perfect man, my Christ on the cross, crying “it is finished”, in whom already are all the resources of heaven and all that we need, and through whom heaven opened to the penitent. The claim that Todd Bentley has done something like this is ANTICHRIST. Yes, antichrist in the true sense of the word. Christ’s death on the cross and His resurrection punched the whole in the darkness and crushed the serpent’s head and bound the strongman so the enemy’s camp could be plundered. It enabled sinful man to be forgiven and reconciled to God and to at any time to approach the throne of God boldly – and more than that to be seated with Christ in heavenly places.
The kingdom of God is taken one man at a time, as he repents and finds forgiveness in Christ Jesus, or is healed and delivered in Jesus’ name. Physical land is not taken.
The Proof of the Pudding
If what these guys was saying was true, (which it is not, as it is proven to be unscriptural, but for the sake of arguement, let’s pretend for a minute it was true), does it not then follow that Lakeland, Toronto, Brownsville etc should be full of supernatural activity and glory OUTSIDE of the meetings and the direct minister’s sphere of influence and activity? There should be real revival going on there without the need for their influence or even their being there. If the ‘heavy heavy weighty glory’ and the heaven with a hole in it is above the town, with myriads of angels pouring out of and descending into the geographical area, it follows that many townsfolk would feel this and be affected in some way who are in no way connected with the revival. People should be coming to Christ in droves without evangelism outside of the meetings. It follows that without the minister’s cues and the hype to manifest either in the meeting or via the media, to be healed, get visions or encounters with God, that people outside the meetings should manifest because it is God and not the minister or hype causing it. If these manifestations are truly heaven sent, then they should equally be happening outside the meetings. But there is no record of twitching or jerking outside of the leader’s direct sphere of influence, indicating it is not God but another agent causing it -for God is surely greater than Todd Bentley’s sphere of influence!
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[...] was reading Mariam’s newest post tonight: Heavenly Portals, Spiritual Warfare, Kingly Anointing, The Third Temple, which is, by the way very good, when a few thoughts came to me concerning the so-called Heavenly [...]
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Lost Bible Books
In the Protestant church only the 66 books approved by the Archbishop of Canterbury in 1885, which today is known as the Authorized King James Bible, are allowed.
Fourteen other books, which were included in the original King James Bible, and 22 other books which were mentioned or quoted in the King James Bible, are not included today.
There was no specific list or accounting of all the books that made up the Bible until the commission of the first Bible by the Emperor Constantine in the 4th Century AD.
It is believed there were up to 600 books, taken out by the formation of Catholicism by Constantine; even one lost book is a great loss.
Also many do not know that the Apocryphal books were actually included in the King James translation until they were officially taken out by the Archbishop of Canterbury in 1885.
I will now give you the names of some of the other Holy books, mentioned in the Bible.
Book of Jasher. = Joshua 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher?
2 Samuel 1:18 (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)
Book of Enoch. = Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
Book of Samuel the seer, = Book of Nathan the prophet, = Book of Gad the seer.
1 Chronicles 29:29 Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Samuel the seer, and in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the book of Gad the seer,
There are many more Holy Scripture books named, which can be found mentioned in the Bible. As Paul said “all scripture is given by inspiration of God” 2 Timothy 3:16 :: King James
My conclusion is that if these books mentioned by God’s people in the Bible, was good enough for them to read and to study, and to accept that it is the word of God, then I to accept that these other books mentioned in the Bible is the word of God. And to reject them would be a grave loss to me. But we do know that if man has any involvement in writing God’s Word, he makes mistakes and sometimes changes the Word of God, therefore we must always seek the Holy Spirits teaching when we are reading holy scriptures today, for the Holy Spirit will always lead us into all truth as Jesus said.
EVANGELIST BILLY BOLITHO
http://www.evangelistbillybolitho.blogspot.com
This Portal thing is sooooo occult. Occultists also believe that certain geographical areas are more prone to spiritual activity than others. This is why you find certain towns with more witches, occultists etc than others – not because they like the look of the town or the people are nice but because the town is a ‘hot spot’ for demonic activity. And it’s easier for them to draw enegry and summon demonic spirits. It’s also easier for them to open new portals.
Now if we have so called christians preaching the same ideas but instead using God as the spiritual source surely this should raise HUGE alarms as God’s ways are in NO WAY linked to the occult and vice versa.
Patrica King used to be a spiritualist and then supposedly became a born again christian. That will be the day, she is nothing but an occultist in disguise. And millions of Christians believe her (and her friends) satanic ideas as being of God.
After renewing the acquaintance of a friend from many years ago, my husband remarked that there seems to be two streams at work in the church today. There are those who chase after Totono, Lakeland etc who are very visible and others who are being driven deeper into the Word. It is difficult to determine how many of the latter group there are as they are not (yet) linked in any definable way. We come across them as if by accident. (Though we fully acknowledge God is at work in bringing us together.)
It can be very lonely when you make a commitment to make the Bible your basis of belief. It is also very liberating. God is so wonderful and faithful. Anyone who has determined to do this will embark on the greatest adventure ever.
I know people who have become involved in so called outpourings who have told me I am missing so much. They also believe I am jealous of what they have. That saddens me because I would not trade what I have in Jesus for anything.
He is so close all the time, I don’t need to spend my life savings to go to Florida, or even Dudley. (Not that I want something that would take away the closeness I have to Jesus – they seem to have to rely on someone else to make the connection.) Jesus said he is with us to the end of the age. Why would I have to belong to a movement that relies on meetings for him to turn up?
It did puzzle me that Todd would suggest that Jesus turning up at the meeting on June 8th in person did not mean he would be visible. He obviously does not expect Him to be there in person (invisibly)as per His promise:
For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them
Matt 18:20 (ANIV)
What he was suggesting seems no different from what we accept as normal. Is this an admission Jesus is not at his meetings? If so, it’s the truest thing I have ever heard him say. If true, who is the Lord who tells him to attack people? I would not want to be there when Jesus did turn up!
The Lord answered, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. 44 I tell you the truth, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 45 But suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and he then begins to beat the menservants and maidservants and to eat and drink and get drunk. The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers.
Luke 12:42-46 (ANIV)
Good article. Did you notice Todd say something about HIS portal the other night? Then he quickly corrected himself. But I think the Freudian slip had already occurred.
Another thing that makes me wonder is the whole: “let’s all pray together and shake heaven” kind of thinking. It smacks of New Age harmonic convergence. Like all these prayers focused in one direction will accomplish something through their spiritual energy. As I recall from James, “the effective prayer [to God] of a [one] righteous man availeth much.”
Anna – what did Todd say, do you remember?
pjmiller made a new post on their site with these interesting perspectives to portals and the like -
The “High Places”…Heaven or Something else?
This is just some general musing on my part tonight; its after 3am so tomorrow, in the light of day, this may appear as nothing more then the ramblings of a mind not ready for bed yet.
I was reading Mariam’s newest post tonight when a few thoughts came to me concerning the so-called Heavenly ‘Portals’ that Bentley, King, and all the rest of this group of false Prophets keep talking about.
The word of God tells us in Ephesians 6: 12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
The NIV version reads this way:
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
“spiritual wickedness in high places” or “spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms”…both translations imply there are wicked/evil spiritual ’somethings’ in the heavenly realms, or HIGH PLACES.
If you do a word search on the term High Places in your bible, you’re going to have many scriptures come up. God’s word has a lot to say about High Places:
And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you. Le 26:30
And it came to pass on the morrow, that Balak took Balaam, and brought him up into the high places of Baal, that thence he might see the utmost part of the people. Nu 22:41
That’s just a couple of the many scriptures in which you’ll find that term. What I want to specifically point out are these below:
And Solomon loved the LORD, walking in the statutes of David his father: only (or but) he sacrificed and burnt incense in high places. 1Ki 3:3
Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree: De 12:2
Then ye shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their pictures, and destroy all their molten images, and quite pluck down all their high places. Nu 33:52
And Jehoash did that which was right in the sight of the LORD all his days wherein Jehoiada the priest instructed him. But the high places were not taken away: the people still sacrificed and burnt incense in the high places. 2 Kings 12: 2-3
And Judah did evil in the sight of the LORD, and they provoked him to jealousy with their sins which they had committed, above all that their fathers had done. For they also built them high places, and images, and groves, on every high hill, and under every green tree. 1 Kings 14; 22-23
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Satan desires God’s Throne–he wants ‘to be God’. He also desires the praise and worship which only God deserves. We also know, because the word tells us, there are principalities–wicked powers- in the heavens above earth.
Here is where my thinking is going tonight; All these false prophets and teachers who are telling us about their trips to ‘heaven’, about open ‘portals’ over specific geographical areas, and how we can attain access to them in which to have our own personal “experiences” of being whisked into God’s heaven…how can we NOT give thought to the possibility that they are indeed going ’somewhere’ in these open portals–and that ’somewhere’ could be into the heavens directly above earth which is occupied by these spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms? (Eph. 6:12)
God had a good reason for commanding the High Places to be torn down once the children of Israel entered a nation/land. They where the places in which those who ‘knew not God’ gathered to burn incense and to lift their hands in worship and praise to their false gods–to also burn sacrifices to these false gods as well.
What they were in fact doing was worshiping those evil wicked powers in the heavenly’s directly above earth, by erecting these places of worship upon the High Places….the highest points geographically, they could find.
Do you see where I’m going? These portals which these people are praying (to be opened) and encouraging others to seek, are not actual portals by which one can travel to God’s heaven, but portals which are being prayed open in the spirit realm, which are allowing these powers of wickedness (principalities, etc) to have a greater access by which to interact with man on earth.
To encourage this sin, they are more then willing to give these deluded people false impressions and visions (which appear true and real) which only look like what these folks ‘think’ or ‘imagine’ Heaven is like–or what they imagine Jesus or God’s Angels look like. As in Todd’s case of ’seeing’ and talking to Paul, these spirits of wickedness in the heavenly’s convinced him he was talking to Paul, visiting Paul’s ‘house’ etc.
Am I making any sense at all?
I believe these people have erected their own High Places, which God condemned and said to tear down. By doing this–”even” if it be in God’s name, it is sin, for they are worshiping a false god…a false Jesus. And are instead interacting with the wicked spirits in high places who desire God’s Glory. They are practicing paganism.
just some late night thoughts…
Anna – what did Todd say, do you remember?
It was late in the broadcast Saturday night. He said something to the effect of his portal, as though he had made it and/or he had control over it. Then he quickly changed it to a more generic meaning. It went by so fast that it took me a moment to realize what had happened. Is there a way to look at past broadcasts? Maybe I can find it.
Anna – you can watch past broadcasts by creating a free account at God Tv.
Maybe “his apostles” decreed him a personal portal which comes with the upgrade to “kingly anointing.”
[they are worshiping a false god…a false Jesus].
you are right there.
thank God for the true Church in JESUS
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3356633/-Todd-Bentley-DEMONIC-STAR-GATE-PORTALS-TO-THIRD-HEAVENS-
TODD BENTLEY~ THE NEW BREED AND THE false ANOINTING~ JOEL’S ARMY
Jacksonville, Fl. June 24, 2008
Dear Saints
William Branham’s Jesus Only, Latter Rain, angel healing doctrines was rejected as heresy by all major established Pentecostal Churches. It has returned with many of the grandsons preachers receiving these unscriptural teachings because of miracles.
At the same time of Branham’s ministry there were many men blazing a trail across the nation preaching the healing message, that the Bible is God’s Word and He can back up His Word through Miracles. And many brought the message to the church and it was received. I BELIEVE IN MIRACLES TOO.
However, the Spirit and the word will always agree. There is a very powerful evil spirit of Kundalini moving through the church. “Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness”. 2 Thess. 2:9-12. KJV
Look at this film and weep for the Church. Is this coming to your Church?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwlRisYyGAI
I think you will agree that the above clip looks as though these people were in an insane asylum instead of a church. The sleeping church is totally unprepared for this unleashing of evil spirits and many souls will end up in hell because of the spiritual blindness of the leaders.
There is an evil working within the Christian that will destroy it unless men and women repent and ask the Lord Jesus to reveal His truth to the believers. THE WOLF IS IN THE SHEEP PEN.
It is the love of the truth and Jesus that will get you into His Kingdom. Jesus can and will do miracles but the sign that must be discerned in last days are those who have a sign and wonders ministry. We must test the spirits to see if they be of God. See this scripture.
“And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles , which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty,”( Rev 16:13-14). KJV
SAINTS GO BACK TO THE WORD OF GOD AND SEEK YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS
Seek the truth through His Word and not the power of miracles.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3566516/Todd-Bentley-Dark-Night-of-the-Soul-Kundalini-Awakening-MYSTICAL-SEEKERS-
Peter Wagner and the New Breed of “prophets and apostles” from the Signs and Wonders Movement, joining the Latter Rain Movement, met last night at the Lakeland Revival to endorse Todd Bentley’s Angel EMMA-O, (a demon from the underworld) anointing Bentley as the number one revivalist of the century! Hardly anyone is testing the spirits to guard the sheep.
Fordsham’s prophecy.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3566516/Todd-Bentley-Dark-Night-of-the-Soul- Kundalini-Awakening-MYSTICAL-SEEKERS-
Do not reject God’s Spirit because they are false.
Miriam, post #7 … thanks for that. It made a LOT of sense. But then again, it’s nearly 3 AM here
That was PJ Miller, not me
See also
http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/bob-jones-sword-of-the-spirit/
MY LORD, did we witness a NEW AGE INITIATION RITE ON WORLD CHRISTIAN TV?
Fellowship of The Ring
The lion ring on third finger is the image of the sun god. Wizards wear rings on third finger which means: right pathway or left pathway in witchcraft. Wizards believe that rings on their various fingers will bring certain powers that they want to use.
What was that ring that Peter Wagner’s “apostles and Prophets & PROPHETESS” placed upon Todd Bentley’s finger?
A NEW COVENANT FOR OPENING THE GATE (MAGICAL CHANGE) THE GATE OF THE NATIONS
Todd bentley’s EMMA – O IS INFURIATED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgYtobeizJw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SgByE0pX1M Serpentine Spirit- Kundalini
EMMA-O TOOK ALL HER ANGELS AND LEFT. . . SLAMMING HER DEMONTIC STAR GATE TO THE THIRD HEAVENS DRIVING Bentley from her.
And all the king’ horses and all the kings’ men couldn’t put Humpty Dumpty back together again. The entire world crazy GodTV and Bentley couldn’t call them back. THAT’LL TEACH THEM to snub EMMA O is, as the King of Hell and Judge of the souls of men . . . EMMA –O, the ruler of the underworld . . . EMMA-O: King of Hell. He lives the good life in a large castle covered in gold, silver, pearls and jewels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIUOwfBEYfk&feature=related
THE ANGELS ARE GONE AND THE MAGIC PORTALS CLOSED TO THE THIRD HEAVENS TO TODD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKA_X1zxOQc&feature=related
What to do. . . what to do? Todd flashed his El Diablo signs, they did not work. The angels were gone. His power vanished. The disgraced EMMA – O had suffered a fatal wound visible to people on this side of the veil. Wendy’s grandiose vision that Jesus would show up on June 6, 08, never happened. Turns out the voice that spoke “the word” was bogus,” it” lied ~ the chariot of the King never came through the Lakeland magical portal.
“I’m not done yet,” Todd chaotically whined. ”Call down the fire, Call down the fire, angels, angels, he hysterically chanted. . . Maybe the door is open somewhere else . . . God I’m asking, send the angels…. Holy Ghost Come Down … Fire, fire, fire . . . Also it is very ironic how Todd
Bentley and his affiliates are constantly pleading for “fire to come down upon them” and even talking about photos that show fire upon people in their services. Well the only fire from God is JUDGMENT in hell fire.
”Liberty come . . . I love Liberty,” Todd frenziedly prayed, calling for his new angel Liberty that he had unleashed after he banished EMMA-O.
PETER WAGNER ~ THE WINDS OF CHANGE
Peter Wagner’s web site said, “This is a year to open the gates. Most of us think that the gate is a physical place that will appear in front of you. However, the first gate we must go through is Heaven’s Gate! This is where we enter boldly into the Throne Room and receive super-abounding grace so we can leap through the place of the “new” in the earth! Consequently, on we will be convening a gathering in Dearborn to open the gate of change to realign the nations. Speakers include Peter Wagner, Chuck Pierce, Barbara Yoder, Pat Francis, and Cindy Jacobs.
Re: personal application of Psalm 2, a Messianic psalm
In Rob McAlpine’s recent book Post-Charismatic?, he writes:
“Most interpreters see [Rev. 12] as a description of Jesus being the male offspring who would ‘rule the nations with an iron rod’ (a reference to Psalm 2), but [George] Warnock [in his book The Feast of Tabernacles] contends that this refers to a group of Christians in the last days who would be the MSOG [Manifest Sons of God]. . . .”
Appropriation of this Messianic psalm seems to have precedent among those who adhere to Latter Rain theology.
Peter Wagner’s web site said, “This is a year to open the gates. Most of us think that the gate is a physical place that will appear in front of you. However, the first gate we must go through is Heaven’s Gate! This is where we enter boldly into the Throne Room and receive super-abounding grace so we can leap through the place of the “new” in the earth!”
Interesting…. some years ago there was a death cult in California called “Heavens’ Gates” if I remember correctly.
All the members committed suicide in hopes of getting on some kind of comet or something.
Disturbing video here from Morning Star Ministries re ‘jumping into the eye of the Holy Spriit vortex’ -
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=33824953
See a good post by PJ here
http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2008/07/15/portals-prophets-posers-and-visions/
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HabJEgo-K3w&NR=1
On this video, Bob Jones proclaims NOW is the time of the open heaven and the time of the open portal and in the beginning of the glory of God.
This man does not know the gospel! It was since 2000 years ago.
We visited in Montana near Glacier National Park an eerie tourist spot run by an New Age Enthusiast called the “Mystery Spot.”I was overwhelmed by the occult feel of the site, close by sacred worship places of the Flathead Indians. Phenomena abounded–gravity was defied, even the trees grew lopsided as they were drawn into the vortex that you could feel, a palpable magnetic pulling. Perceptions were visibly distorted. The woman who ran the business was evidently trying to prove the validity of these phenomena, and produced for the tour several photographs of glowing orbs very like the photograph noted in PJ’s link. I have been trying to make sense of this experience that so disturbed my spirit. Now I understand. These portals are real, they aren’t making it up. Shamans used to seek visions in these geographical hot spots and the evil spirits still powerfully move there. They are even being researched by physicists, or so claimed our hostess.
Like leylines too?
Had to google Ley lines. No, this is different. It was called a Vortex. Wikipedia can’t explain what we felt while we were there. Similar attractions, often called Mystery Spots, are commonly explained as mere optical illusions or gravity hills. What we experienced was beyond an illusion, I was very skeptical of all the claims made, but to enter one particular area and see the trees growth writhing and twisting towards the center of the area, was inexpicable to me. I felt what was like a tremendous magnetic pulling, and I’m not very hyper-suggestible, never been slain in the Spirit during ministry time for example.
Sorry, Karen, I was not saying they were one and the same thing, but kind of similar in the beliefs surrounding them – of a high infusion of spiritual power in that area which is more open to the paranormal.
Yes exactly that. The proprietress was extremely excited as well about her numerous photos of spherical glowing auras that various paranormal researchers had taken at her property. They look exactly like Shelly’s photo and JPJ’s description of portals. Very creepy. The spot was a definite magnet to the occultists.
Speaking of portals, I am going to go in the next room, open mine and flush all this “new age” crap down the opening of my “portal pottie”!!!
I wanted to make a comment on the section “Encounters with God.” I think it’s true the point you make Miriam about the reality of the ongoing relationship with a continually indwelling God that believers have. It’s something that’s probably not emphasized enough. I believe that Todd Bentley would agree with this too.
As I hear him, what he’s talking about doesn’t necessitate a distant or broken fellowship with God. It’s that he’s emphasizing the remarkable encounters he has because they’re so remarkable for him.
You’re saying this is an Old Covenant kind of understanding of our relationship with God. I think I understand what you mean, but there is New Testament basis for special encounters with God too; primarily the Transfiguration. This was a time when the disciples’ encounter with God was different and far more intense than other times, but God was still with them at other times as the indwelling Holy Spirit as you remind us.
And on the geographical connection with anointing, the handkerchiefs that Paul had touched were sent out and many people were healed by God through contact with the handkerchiefs (Acts 19:8). Some may be uncomfortable with such a phenomenon as New Age or shamanism, but this is something that happened in Bible.
So as you’re being a corrective force in the Body of Christ, I hope you too will be open to correction if it is needed. As I hope to be myself.
I think your post is a great reminder to preachers to take care not to be misinterpreted by clarifying what they say. Bless you!
The problem with the “portals’ and ley lines is that they may be a small manifestation of Satan’s limited power, but that JESUS never tells us anywhere in the Word, to be overly concerned about them.
The existence of Satanic orbs (they were photographed floating all over the church when Randy Demain and Paul Harrison came to my church) is meaningless as are gemstones and gold dust and pixies and all the other Satanic signs and wonders because as Moses said, they do NOT lead us to a deeper understanding of who God is and what the real problem in the church and the world always has been… SIN.
And it is sin to chase after signs and wonders! But these doctrines and signs are all over the Apostolic Prophetic Cult.
It actually is a true “sign” of where their hearts are at.
The fact that Satan does supernatural “miracles” is no surprise, the fact that demons manifest isn’t either, but what is surprising is that charismatics forget the scripture that says: “Do not rejoice that you have power over demons — Rejoice rather that your names are written in the Lamb’s book of life!”
Jesus is warning us not to get captivated by Satan’s limited power. This is also why He goes on to warn about false prophetess Jezebel’s false teachings in Rev. 2:20 — and Jesus is very sarcastic when He says:
“She (Jezebel spirit) teaches the ’so-called deep things of Satan’”.
And we are warned that only those that do not abide by or get sucked into her teachings on these “deep things of Satan” will be spared their salvation!
This is why all this junk about portals and demonic orbs and angels of light are so dangerous… people are risking their salvation getting involved with these teachings of the “so called deep things of Satan.”
If Jesus said we aren’t to get into this, we’ve got to listen. He has created a hierarchy of our thought-lives for us: “Seek ye the kingdom first”
Satan wants us to seek Satan’s kingdom first here! It is a trick and a trap and a lying deception to even get our minds off of Christ.
Comment from Revival School site -
“I just took a quick look live (10:30 EST 26th July) on godTV at who was running the lakeland show tonight and within 30 seconds it was claimed that the heavens descended as a shaft of white light on the front rows and that a portal was opened for them.”
Beam me up, Scotty! What can I say????
Well you do a good job exposing these false so-called Teachers and prophets and all those false people on the — god-TV wo are ripping of Christians.
Never Be Deceived America
Is it possible that today a counterfeit gospel and counterfeit Jesus is being preached in our nation and in the world at large? Just because someone says that they believe in Jesus, does that really mean that they are Christians? Should we believe every person regardless of the way that they live their lives and what they believe in scripture?
Well, I believe that we should not. For we read in scripture that their will be some who will try to trouble us, by perverting the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Now, the Bible makes it very clear, if someone comes to you preaching another gospel, which is not found in the Word of God, or another Jesus that we have not read about in scripture, then we are on no account to receive them as followers of Christ. Paul the apostle of Jesus Christ, was not fooled he said “they profess that they know God; but in works they deny Him,”
In 2 John v 9, we read “Whosoever transgresseth and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ hath not God, he that abideth in the doctrine of Christ; he hath both the Father and the Son.” So if anyone comes to you and says, “we believe in Jesus”, but not in the word of God as it is written in the Holy Bible, then we do not receive them, or welcome them, for they are trying to make you doubt God’s Word, and trying to weaken your faith. It is written, “If there come any unto you and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed,” {2 John v 10}.
So beware in these last days do not listen to anyone who does not bring you sound doctrine, always check out everything that you hear in the Holy Scriptures. If you do you will never be deceived, for we must remember the Words of Jesus, “For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch that if it were possible they shall deceive the very elect,” {Matthew 24 v 24}.
Dear Saints, let us hold on to God’s Word filling our minds with His truth, if we do we shall never be deceived by what we hear or see.
EVANGELIST BILLY BOLITHO
http://www.evangelistbillybolitho.blogspot.com
Jeff Jansen speaking in sevices in San Diego the weekend of April 24th said that portals were opened for San Diego. Members of a congregation that I am aligned with are on board with these teachings. I am concerned that the direction we are going is not good.How prevalent is this new teaching?
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Wow! This word is truly an eye opener for me. I am more aware of the many tactics of the enemy to lure people of God into an dellusionary spirit. I have witnessed a Pastor who does these very things and it saddens me that he does not see the error of his ways! I have even challenged him on his teachings bacasue he claimed to have gotten a vision fromthe Lord, and started teaching strange doctrine about the fourth dimension and visualization. Also, he teaches now on outer body experiences and affirmations, seeing things in your mind and then seeingthem come to life! My Lord, I am so glad I know better and that I can pray for those who are still under his leadership!