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Todd Bentley, Rick Joyner, Bobby Conner – the Knights of Malta Connection

‘Truth Speaker’ writes an interesting article about why C Peter Wagner’s bunch of false prophets and apostles may  have chosen to “align” Todd Bentley on June 23rd (apart from prophet Bob Jones prophesying that June 22 through to July 22 would have the most glory) here. She says the date has special occult significance and is a key date for the Knights of Malta!

“It is of great significance that Rick Joyner was one of the men presiding over [the Todd Bentley commissioning on June 23rd]. Several years ago Rick Joyner was initiated into the Knights of Malta, the Order of Saint John. This is a known fact and Rick has even spoken about it and made an audio tape explaining it and defended it in his 1998 Morning Star Journal.

[End times note: other prophets like Mahesh Chavda and Paul Cain and Bobby Conner are also known knights of Malta]

Rick Joyner and many of the other prophets and apostles from C. Peter Wagner’s New Apostolic Reformation are calling for unity with Rome.

What are the Knights of Malta

The Order of Malta is a lay, religious order of the Catholic Church. It is a Hospitaller order, founded in Jerusalem during the eleventh century. Members of the Order seek to glorify God through his or her work with the sick and the poor and witness of the Catholic faith.

Sherry Shriner writes in her article: “Rick Joyner, Knighted By The Knights Of Malta”

“The primary organization, called the Knights of Malta, has its headquarters in the Vatican of Rome and is clearly controlled and operated by the Catholic church. Their official website gives their name as the “Sovereign Military Order Of Malta.” They state of themselves that this “is a lay religious order of the Catholic church.” It was founded in Jerusalem in 1099 and it was approved formally as an order by the Pope in 1113. They also say of themselves, “The Order of Malta was admitted to the United Nations as a permanent observer on August 24, 1994.” They also claim “official diplomatic relations with over eighty states and international organizations.” The Order of Malta is clearly a Catholic order, controlled by the Pope and totally committed to the Pope, the Virgin Mary, and service to Roman Catholic ideas and causes. It is a powerful and massive organization.”

The History of the Knights of Malta

“Blessed Gerard originally founded “The Hospice of St. John of Jerusalem” prior to the 1st Crusade to care for sick and poor pilgrims in Jerusalem. In 1120, after Pope Urban II issued a Bulla recognizing the Hospice as a military religious order, the Order became “The Military Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem”. Its members became known as “Knights of St. John”, “Knights of the Hospital” or simply “Knights Hospitallers”. Later, after the capture of Rhodes, the Order’s name became “The Military Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem and of Rhodes”. The knights of that period were known as “The Knights of Rhodes”, as well as by their previous names. After the loss of Rhodes, the Order came into possession of the Island of Malta. The Order’s name then became “The Military Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem, of Rhodes and of Malta”. After the loss of Malta the name of the Order became “The Sovereign Military Order of the Hospital of St. John of Jerusalem, of Rhodes and of Malta”. Since that time, the members have since been referred to most commonly as “The Knights of Malta”, however, they may still be referred to as “Knights of St. John”, “Knights of the Hospital” or “Knights Hospitaller”. The Order is now typically referred to as “The Sovereign Military Order of Malta”, “The Order of Malta”, or the “SMOM”. . .

The following quote is from: An Encyclopedia of Freemasonry and Its Kindred Sciences,” etc. by Albert G. Mackey, M.D., Thirty-Third Degree, Volume I, published by the Masonic History Company, Chicago, New York, & London, 1925, Volume One, pp. 392-95:

“This Order, which at various times in the progress of its history received the names of Knights Hospitalers, Knights of St. John of Jerusalem, Knights of Rhodes, and lastly, Knights of Malta, was one of the most important of the religious and military orders of knighthood which sprang into existence during the Crusades which were instituted for the recovery of the Holy Land. It owes its origin to the Hospitalers of Jerusalem, that wholly religious and charitable Order which was established at Jerusalem, in 1048, by pious merchants of Amalfi for the succor of poor and distressed Latin pilgrims….

“…There are now two bodies-one Catholic and the other Protestant, but each repudiates the other….

“The degree of Knight of Malta is conferred in the United States as “an appendant Order” in a Commandery of Knights Templar. There is a ritual attached to the degree, but very few are in possession of it, and it is generally communicated after the candidate has been created a Knights Templar….”

The Knights of Malta are the militia of the Pope, and are sworn to total obedience by a blood oath which is taken extremely seriously and to the death. The Pope as the head of the Vatican is also the head of a foreign national power.

As a member of the Knights of Malta, and by virtue of your blood oath of obedience to the Pope, you are required to support to the death the desires of the head of the Order of the Knights of Malta-in this case, Pope Benedict XVI -over and above any other allegiance you may feel or pretend to feel toward any other loyalty-such as a loyalty to the Constitution for the united States of America.

Those who are presently members of the Knights of Malta must on penalty of death support those policies advocated by the Vatican. It is not hard for them to do this. They BELIEVE in these policies and principles. The polices which are espoused and proclaimed by the office of the Pope are as follows:

1. End of sovereignty for the United States and other countries.
2. End of absolute property rights.
3. End of all gun rights.
4. The new international economic Order (world government).
5. The redistribution of wealth and jobs.
6. Calls for nations to trust the United Nations.
7. Total disarmament.
8. Promote the United Nations as the hope for peace.
9. Promote UNESCO, the deadly educational and cultural arm of the United Nations.
10. Promote interdependence.
11. Support sanctions honoring Father Pierre Teilhard de Chardin-the New Age Humanist Priest.
12. Support the belief that the economic principle of traditional Christian or Catholic social doctrine is the economic principle of communism.
13. Promote the Pope as the acting go-between for the United States and the Soviet Union.

It doesn’t really matter what kind of religious or political affiliation a member professes, when they take an oath as a Knight they are obligated by that blood oath of obedience to follow the political lead of the Vatican and will do so to their dying breath-as all good Knights of Malta do. Their first loyalty is to the Vatican, anything else is secondary. Each and every member is under complete and total obedience to the Vatican’s political ambitions.

The Order of Malta has ambassadors or diplomatic representatives in more than eighty nations, and enjoys Permanent Observer status at the United Nations General Assembly.”

It is a known fact that Rick Joyner is very focused on warfare and the Knights of the Roundtable. Here is a quote from Joyner:

“Like the nation of Israel, the Order of St John the Baptist seems to have been uniquely preserved to play a part in the final battle between light and darkness. The church, and even Western civilization, is no less in jeopardy today than it was in the time of Suleiman. Conflicts within the church have weakened her to the point that she is more vulnerable to the enemy than ever. Even so, the Lord is not constrained to deliver by many or by few. He still has those who are true noblemen, who are establishing noble families throughout the earth. They are bound together by a common faith that transcends denominational differences. They, too, have vowed not to retreat before the enemies of the cross, nor yield a single acre of ground to the enemy of our faith.

The Lord is again calling together true knights of the Spirit. They will stand unified in spite of all the petty divisions and spiritual wars that go on around them. They know who the real enemy is, and they, too, will stand without wavering against the greatest darkness of their times, and they will push the darkness back. Some of these are in the modern Order of St John. Some of them may be in your church. One of them may even be you.” (pg 58, end of author’s text)

A picture of the present Grand Master with his various titles covers page 59 of the book.

The Significance of the Date of Todd Bentley’s commissioning:

What is significant about the date and Rick Joyner being one of the presiding “apostles” at Todd Bentley’s commissioning is that June 23 is the eve of the Feast Day of Saint John, the Knights of Malta’s feast day!

The Sovereign Military Order of Malta observes as its feast day Saint John’s Day, June 24th.  It is not insignificant to note that Saint John’s Day is on the same date as Midsummer’s Day, the pagan holiday of Litha. It is a time when pagans worshipped the sun god through the summer solstice.

“Midsummer may simply refer to the period of time centered upon the summer solstice, but more often refers to specific European celebrations that accompany the actual solstice, or that take place on the 24th of June and the preceding evening. European midsummer-related holidays, traditions, and celebrations are pre-Christian in origin and have been superficially Christianised as celebrations of the Nativity of St. John the Baptist as “Saint John’s Eve” festivals.”

“Midsummer fires served as sun charms to keep up the heat. Midsummer Eve, however, afterwards nominated as John the Baptist’s Eve, was a great fire-day far and wide. Von Buch, the traveller, speaks of seeing custom observed within the Arctic Circle.An old writer about Ireland remarked–”A stranger would imagine the whole country was on fire.” Brand writes of the Vigil of St. John–”They make bonfires, run along the streets and fields with wisps of straw blazing on long poles, to purify the air which they think infectious by believing all the devils, spirits, ghosts, and hobgoblins abroad this night to hurt mankind.” One, writing in 1867 said–”The old pagan fire-worship still survives in Ireland though nominally in honour of St. John. On Sunday night bonfires were observed throughout nearly every county the province of Leinster.” As Easter Day was of old devoted to Astarte, the East goddess, so was St. John’s Day to Baal.” 

The Feast of the Nativity of St. John is set down in the Papal calendar for the 24th of June, or Midsummer-day. The very same period was equally memorable in the Babylonian calendar as that of one of its most celebrated festivals. It was at Midsummer, or the summer solstice, that the month called in Chaldea, Syria, and Phoenicia by the name of “Tammuz” began; and on the first day–that is, on or about the 24th of June–one of the grand original festivals of Tammuz was celebrated.

For different reasons, in different countries, other periods had been devoted to commemorate the death and reviving of the Babylonian god; but this, as may be inferred from the name of the month, appears to have been the real time when his festival was primitively observed in the land where idolatry had its birth. And so strong was the hold that this festival, with its peculiar rites, had taken of the minds of men, that even when other days were devoted to the great events connected with the Babylonian Messiah, as was the case in some parts of our own land, this sacred season could not be allowed to pass without the due observance of some, at least, of its peculiar rites. When the Papacy sent its emissaries over Europe, towards the end of the sixth century, to gather in the Pagans into its fold, this festival was found in high favour in many countries. What was to be done with it? Were they to wage war with it? No. This would have been contrary to the famous advice of Pope Gregory I, that, by all means they should meet the Pagans half-way, and so bring them into the Roman Church. The Gregorian policy was carefully observed; and so Midsummer-day, that had been hallowed by Paganism to the worship of Tammuz, was incorporated as a sacred Christian festival in the Roman calendar.

But still a question was to be determined, What was to be the name of this Pagan festival, when it was baptised, and admitted into the ritual of Roman Christianity? To call it by its old name of Bel or Tammuz, at the early period when it seems to have been adopted, would have been too bold. To call it by the name of Christ was difficult, inasmuch as there was nothing special in His history at that period to commemorate. But the subtlety of the agents of the Mystery of Iniquity was not to be baffled. If the name of Christ could not be conveniently tacked to it, what should hinder its being called by the name of His forerunner, John the Baptist? John the Baptist was born six months before our Lord. When, therefore, the Pagan festival of the winter solstice had once been consecrated as the birthday of the Saviour, it followed, as a matter of course, that if His forerunner was to have a festival at all, his festival must be at this very season; for between the 24th of June and the 25th of December–that is, between the summer and the winter solstice–there are just six months. Now, for the purposes of the Papacy, nothing could be more opportune than this. One of the many sacred names by which Tammuz or Nimrod was called, when he reappeared in the Mysteries, after being slain, was Oannes.

In other words this particular day, June 23, the beginning of Saint John’s Day and Midsummer Day is an ancient pagan celebration to the god Baal or Tammuz and it is marked by FIRE. Is it a coincidence that Todd Bentley is always talking about the Fire, and that his ministry is called Fresh Fire?

Here’s an early 20th Century NY Times article on the pagan significance of St. John’s Day (June 24). Here are just some quotes that highlight fire worship.

“How many and varied have been the forms of what we may term degenerate fire worship, or, rather fire worship ceremonial and superstitious rites engrafted on Christianity?….It appears to me to be simply a survival of the worship of Baal which was the universal fatih of our fathers–a remnant of that great fire worship which prevailed over the whole world, as known to the ancients….”

Here is Todd Calling for a spirit of fire and a spirit of burning. Unfortunately for him he is calling for the judgment of God. Isa 4:4 – The Lord will wash away the filth of the women of Zion; he will cleanse the bloodstains from Jerusalem by a spirit of judgment and a spirit of fire.

Mt 3:12 – His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor, gathering his wheat into the barn and burning up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”

Mt 13:40 – “As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age.

1Co 3:13 – his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man’s work.

Heb 10:27 – but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.

Another interesting occurrence happened on this same date in 1947:

“The modern UFO era and the birth of the extraterrestrial hypothesis began on June 24, 1947, when Kenneth Arnold, flying his private plane near Mount Rainier in Washington, reported nine disk-shaped objects flying in formation at speeds he estimated to be over 1,000 miles per hour”

Is this all a coincidence? If so then there seems to be unseen hands arranging these circumstances and causing these men to speak certain phrases on an occult holiday.”

Pope Benedict with SMOM Grandmaster Andrew Willoughby Ninian Bertie

July 23, 2008 - Posted by endtimespropheticwords | Bobby Conner, False Prophets and Teachers, Freemasonry, Interfaith and Ecumenical, Kansas City Prophets, Knights of Malta, New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), New World Order, One World Religion, Prophecy, Rick Joyner, Roman Catholicism, Todd Bentley, signs and wonders | , , , | 45 Comments

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  1. If I recall, wasn’t the June 23rd “anointing” ceremony held in the evening in Florida? So, technically, it would have been six hours behind Europe, where it would already have been the 24th.

    Comment by AriseMyLove | July 23, 2008

  2. QUOTE: “The Knights of Malta are the militia of the Pope, and are sworn to total obedience by a blood oath which is taken extremely seriously and to the death. The Pope as the head of the Vatican is also the head of a foreign national power.

    As a member of the Knights of Malta, and by virtue of your blood oath of obedience to the Pope, you are required to support to the death the desires of the head of the Order of the Knights of Malta-in this case, Pope Benedict XVI -over and above any other allegiance you may feel or pretend to feel toward any other loyalty-such as a loyalty to the Constitution for the united States of America.”

    This is pretty creepy! If this is true, then Rick Joyner HAS TO obey any command the pope gives him or else they’ll take a contract out on him (by the Sicilian brethren, no doubt).

    Comment by ianvincent | July 23, 2008

  3. Ian – there is an article that Rick Joyner recently brought out extolling the kings of malta, I will try and dig it out.

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | July 23, 2008

  4. Photo just added of pope and SMOM Grandmaster

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | July 23, 2008

  5. Here you go, Ian from http://www.injesus.com/index.php?module=message&task=view&MID=JB007EUH&GroupID=RA008FL2

    Article by Rick Joyner, 2008

    At our home base, we are doing some things that are considered radical and threatening to many other Christians – such as laboring to see an authentic prophetic ministry raised up in the Church. As we see in Scripture, this stirs up the wrath of those who serve other gods, or those with a Jezebel spirit, and we must have many who will fight with great endurance.

    We also have a Special Forces Missions group being raised up that we deploy mostly in special missions. These are adventure junkies who do not do well sitting anywhere for long periods of time, so we use this characteristic and see it as a part of their missionary gifts.

    The Knights of Malta

    One of my favorite and, I think, most inspiring accounts from church history is the history of the famous Order of Saint John of Jerusalem, Rhodes, and Malta, or as they are more popularly called, “The Knights of Malta.” They were a small order of monks who are credited with inventing the hospital, which they founded in Jerusalem to care for the sick pilgrims on their way to the Holy Land during the Middle Ages. Because many pilgrims were being attacked on the way to Jerusalem, these monks later formed a military division to protect the pilgrims.

    As these military monks became recognized as knights, they started to become renowned for both their courage and skill as warriors. They also focused their resolve to not only protect the pilgrims, but protect Christian territory. They vowed to never retreat before the enemies of the Cross and to die rather than surrender an acre of Christian territory to them. They also vowed to do all that they could to preserve Christian unity and to never take up arms against fellow Christians or the forces of a Christian nation.

    Because of this resolve, this little order became one of most important and strategic forces in history, not only impacting their own times, but changing the future course of history to the degree that European monarchs credited them with saving Europe from an Islamic takeover.

    At the battles of Rhodes and Malta, there were just a few hundred of these remarkable knights, joined by several thousand militia, who took their stand against the most powerful Muslim armies numbering nearly one hundred times their own. After months of sieges, with some of the most fierce human assaults by numbers many times their own, and when the smoke had cleared, the banner of the knights still stood on the ramparts. The few but bloody knights who were left stood next to that banner.

    Their courage and resolve even gained the respect and honor of their enemies. Today there are Muslim leaders who have such respect for this order that they give an audience to the modern knights. One reason may be because these more fearsome and courageous warriors never forgot their calling as healers. After each battle, the knights, even though exhausted and often wounded themselves, would not rest until all of the wounded on the battlefield had been taken care of, even those from among their enemies.

    Humbling Ourselves to Serve

    To keep their humility, these knights, who were mostly the scions of the most powerful and wealthy families in Europe, and even their leader, the Grand Master of the Order, would spend time weekly in the hospitals serving the sick and wounded, even changing their bedpans. They did this believing that as they served even the least of these, they were serving Christ Himself.

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | July 23, 2008

  6. what?? The knights of Malta were steeped in mysticism and the occult werent they??

    Comment by Mary B | July 23, 2008

  7. oopps sorry Miriam,
    I hadn’t read your post before I commented sorry :)

    Comment by Mary B | July 23, 2008

  8. Rick Joyner takes the biscuit doesn’t he?

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | July 23, 2008

  9. …The polices which are espoused and proclaimed by the office of the Pope are as follows:

    1. End of sovereignty for the United States and other countries…

    I do believe this is why there’ve been some really bizarre proposed and passed legislation recently. I mean, why would we allow illegal immigrants more rights and benefits of some or most Americans? Why haven’t we limited the influx of immigrants — especially those who are potentially a threat to our government? Why haven’t we actively drilled for oil within our own borders?

    The US is too powerful — although that appears to be fading fast — and has too many Christians which makes it a serious impediment to the NWO. Break its independence and weaken its economy and we, the spoiled and privileged will have a hard time not succumbing. Most Americans would compromise values (and most do anyway) to try to stay in our comparative affluence.

    Most Americans are swimming in consumer debt; and, of course the national debt is mounting daily. How long will our consumer purchasing-driven economy last?

    Comment by Lee | July 23, 2008

  10. wow, i’m speechless. This is all so surreal.

    Comment by nakita | July 23, 2008

  11. Benny Hinn is also aligned with the knights Templar.

    Comment by Mary B | July 23, 2008

  12. I’ve been doing lots of studying on the subjects of summer solstice, and one interesting thing i noted was that the occult and the Knights Templar- also King Arthur before them-( the once and future king)- has a lot in common- as satanists and ocuultists are awaiting the return of king Arthur. Another interesting fact is that Prince William Arthur of Wales was born on summer solstice- June 22 1982 born of Prince Charles( which means man) and Princess Diana( like the goddess)- seems like a powerful transaction in the spiritual realm- also he has recently been knighted into the Order of the Garter( with occultic connections) and became the 1000th knight. Just wondering if this is somehow connected to the Knights of Malta and Rome as this will be significant in endtime prophesies…

    Comment by Corne | July 23, 2008

  13. Its’s all a bit puzzling for me, but as I understand it, Rick Joyner is crediting the Roman Catholic Church as being ‘Christian’ and …..the knights have vowed to do all they can do to preserve ‘Christian unity’ and never to take up arms against fellow Christians or the forces of a Christian nation. Hence his courtship with the Catholic Church is based on his presumption that it is a Christian body of believers and not to be fought against. Now those of us who protest and don’t believe that Roman Catholicism is actually Christian, are the people with the Jezebel spirit and serve other gods and must be withstood. We will be regarded as being devisive and must be eliminated at all costs…..it’s all too surreal! It makes me feel frightened, it’s so diabolical.

    Comment by shoshana | July 23, 2008

  14. Thanks for the information Miriam. I hope that many who are still under the influence of Joyner will read this and get free from that deception.

    Comment by ianvincent | July 23, 2008

  15. Notice that right off the bat Joiner speaks of all those with the spirit of Jezebel, ie spirit of Baal, ie spirit of religion! About a year and half ago I read a book or article as it was printed out (not in book form) on the spirit of Jezebel, written by another favorite, Francis Frangipane. Well to make a long story short, he talks of this spirit being prevalent everywhere, and the absolute need for (THIER) followers to be ruthless against this spirit, and just as Jehu trampled Jezebel under the hooves of his horse so must (THEY) be ruthless against this spirit! It doesnt take much thought to see where they are going with this! Miriam, if you can check out to see if you can find this book and see what it says. I would but Im afraid my parents wont give it to me to read again. GOD BLESS ALL!!

    Comment by Vince | July 23, 2008

  16. The History and Future of the Present Revival – Part 7 View Part 1

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2048707/posts

    Joyner justifying Lakeland. Not pretty. Joyner needs to be taken down, sentence by deceptive sentence.

    Comment by AriseMyLove | July 23, 2008

  17. Miriam, I keep hearing that Che Ahn was also initiated into the KOM but I can’t find proof of it. It is very weird… all the occult connections and statements made at the “commissioning”. Have you heard that they are taking down the tent in “Lake of Fire Land” at the end of August and Bentley is taking his freak show on the road? I think that the money is running out and that now that he’s aligned he must do as he is told.
    Joanne

    Comment by truthspeaker | July 23, 2008

  18. Lee, I like the way you think. Some are actually being enlightened to realize the deceptions going on….as talked about in Daniel 8:23, wicked men reaching the fullness of their wickedness, and CAUSING DECPETION TO FLOURISH. Some are drawn to “SEE” the deception, trickery and connect- the-dots of nefarious groups. Then to warn others. Funny how they operate in groups. Seeking and finding protection from elders, and other clandistine organizations. Jesus never mentioned in Matt. 24 anything about a great God-filled revival in the last days…all He talk of was DECEPTION WITH REGARDS TO FALSE REVIVALS. So I have to raise an eyebrow at most “revivals”. I believe Joel’s final outpouring will be recieved by individuals in their hearts not in a church, not by a denomination, not by an individual, just Jesus visiting those while they sleep, and across the world millions will wake up in love with Jesus. Can’t track it back to any man, religion, church, revival…just Jesus.

    demonization
    denomination

    Comment by Erin | July 23, 2008

  19. Vince – was it the book, the three battlegrounds, if so if I did not throw it out I think I have that in the attic somewhere, I had to buy it when I was in YWAM as it was a course text.

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | July 23, 2008

  20. Truthspeaker: Mary B says Benny Hinn is a KOM too?!

    >>Have you heard that they are taking down the tent in “Lake of Fire Land” at the end of August and Bentley is taking his freak show on the road

    No, I have not heard that but to be fair I have so little time now to search the net for stuff and have not personally watched this ‘revival’ for weeks. I know they have been going on about taking ‘it’ to the nations, but to be fair they have said that for a long time and Todd was planning international trips before the Nightline fiasco.

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | July 23, 2008

  21. This looks like a good place to repeat a post of mine from long ago. Oftimes, the name, “Jezebel spirit” is tossed out without understanding its real meaning.

    Queen Jezebel usurped her wimp king husband’s authority, and used it to manipulate to gain her own evil desires.

    Likewise, many Christian leaders usurp the authority of God to manipulate people to fulfil their own evil desires. They do this by searching out Scriptures that fit their purpose, ignoring other verses that are contrary to their desires.

    Still, it MUST be noted that most of these leaders do not know what they are doing in pleasing their own flesh. Just like Jezebel herself who saw God’s hand show her prophets were false, those under that spell today can hardly be convinced they are false.

    We are told we are not to fight against flesh, but against evil spirits in dark places. This is where our prayers should be aimed, for deliverance and recovery of the captives. …DavWms

    Comment by David L. Williams | July 23, 2008

  22. Shoshana – keep your eyes on Jesus. These ghastly men have a ghastly agenda that there is no guarantee that God will let them fulfil. But even if so, be at peace for greater is He who is in you that is in the world. These guys aint the church, they are the world, remember that, it aint civil war though they will say it is.

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | July 23, 2008

  23. I cant remember, I just remember the context, if it comes to me I will let you know. I printed this out and Im going to try to use it to open some eyes. Thank you and GOD BLESS!!

    Comment by Vince | July 23, 2008

  24. Erin,

    I had studied the New Age movement [primarily through Constance Cumbey's book The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow] prior to accepting Christ as savior; so, I tend to view current errors in Christiandom through that lens.

    I believe Joel’s final outpouring will be recieved by individuals in their hearts not in a church, not by a denomination, not by an individual, just Jesus visiting those while they sleep, and across the world millions will wake up in love with Jesus.

    I’m assuming you are of the belief that Joel 2:28-29 which Peter refers to in Acts 2:17-18 refers to some kind of end-times ‘outpouring.’ Peter is saying in these verses that these events were being fulfilled at that time [read verse 2:33]. The “last days” refered to here are the days beginning at Pentecost with the initial outpouring of the Holy Spirit; i.e, the first indwelling ever to occur in humanity. The last days began there and are continuing until Jesus’ 2nd coming.

    So, contrary to what Latter Rainers believe, there will NOT be an end-times ‘outpouring’ of the Holy Spirit in large proportion — such as the ‘billion souls saved’ belief. This is contrary to scripture which speaks of the great falling away/apostasy and increasing persecution of Christians Jesus speaks of in Matthew 24. Also, this would contradict the wide versus narrow gate of Matthew 7:13-14.

    In fact, if you look at this through the New Age lens, the billion souls will likely be converted to new age beliefs via the ‘mass planetary initiation’ — a Luciferic initiation — spoken of by Alice Bailey and other new agers. That is, IF, this comes to fruition as “The Plan” lays out.

    Comment by Lee | July 23, 2008

  25. >>Have you heard that they are taking down the tent in “Lake of Fire Land” at the end of August and Bentley is taking his freak show on the road

    There is a group of churches/ministries in our area, that have been meeting weekly, taking Todd’s Revival course (apparently he has a revial curriculum???) prior to having Todd’s team come and impart to about 200 ministers, leaders, pastors, etc.
    I was told they needed to assure Todd’s team they had at least 200 people before Todd’s team would committ to coming.

    Comment by Kathie | July 24, 2008

  26. Are the Knights of Malta a secret organization and if not can a person find out who are all thier members? I would sure like to get a complete list of thier members as I believe that would be very eye opening! GOD BLESS!!

    Comment by Vince | July 24, 2008

  27. Vince – I believe they are a bit like the freemasons and so do not have these type of open lists and you’d probably need to be in the know to know.

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | July 24, 2008

  28. Wow, now this is informative and definitely brings everything to light. I am going to so some research of my own. On a kind of funny note though, when I started reading all this, I started to get a little freaked out. Well, it turns out that my son had put in a video game, left the room and this really weird gothic flute music came on. I had totally toned out the music to read, and then finally I took a break and started to laugh because I realized it was the music helping with the freaking out. However, I am still a bit freaked out. I just left a church that was in Bill Johnson’s alignment of churches where one of the pastors accused me of not loving them by not staying. How manipulative. I joined Pat Kings on line church for a short time because I have a disabled son and could not attend just any church and it seemed logical, boy was I wrong. I was in it for less than a month when during prayer heard from the Holy Spirit to disassociate myself complete. No matter how many times I have requested to not receive any more emails from them, I still get them. I delete without reading or watching. I have and every time I feel like I might have missed God on this, something like this comes to light. How gracious is my God to be a husband to this single mother of three sons and make sure I am aware of the dangers of deception? Thank you for your articles.

    Comment by Tammy | July 24, 2008

  29. God bless you Tammy for your courage and conviction. Birds of a feather flock together, don’t we ?

    Comment by BlueRose | July 24, 2008

  30. If we are referring to the same thing BlueRose, yes we do because we have to.

    Vince, I googled it and there was a short list, but I think it was old or at least just a partial. President Bush, both of them and President Clinton is on it, so I am wondering if this is just an superfical list, but the real list to worry about is secret.

    Comment by Tammy | July 24, 2008

  31. Okay, I have been doing some searching. I read some on the Knights and some on NAR, they both seem almost the same, scary. Am I right on? Is the Knights and the NAR one in the same?

    Comment by Tammy | July 24, 2008

  32. Tammy – they both point towards Rome.

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | July 24, 2008

  33. if you google Benny Hinn and the knight templar a bunch of articles come up. I believe I read that he is funding some if the rebuilding of the temple.

    Comment by Mary B | July 25, 2008

  34. I googled the knights of malta and found quite a variety of stuff, nothing really provable, I think satan is alive and well, and is the ultimate puppet master. Many of these secret societies and or counterfiet religions are working for the same goal, a man made utopia on earth, without GOD, but will use the name of GOD or JESUS to further thier agenda! It seems the beast is forming in Brussels and Babylon is forming in Rome and both are using the UN to further thier agendas. The US is just another puppet on the stage. Someday soon the curtain will be pulled back and we will see who is operating the strings. Lets all stay focused on JESUS and his instruction manual and he will help us to call out the wolves, whoever they may be. GOD BLESS!!

    Comment by Vince | July 25, 2008

  35. Vivere qui sancte cupitis, discelite; Romae Omnia quum liceant, non licet esse bonum.

    Means, “You who desire to live a Godly life, depart; for, although all things are lawful at Rome, yet to be Godly is unlawful.

    http://watch.pair.com/bennyhinn.html

    Comment by BlueRose | July 25, 2008

  36. When in Rome dont do as the Romans!!!!Bluerose, I went to the site above and found it quite interesting. When I looked up the Knights of Malta I found several sites with similar information. It seems the more I look the bigger all this gets, but it is all so subtle, until you start digging. GOD must sit on his throne in amazement as to the pride and stupidity of man, yet by his holding back shows his forgiving nature!! Woe to all who see his patience run out!! GOD BLESS!!!

    Comment by Vince | July 25, 2008

  37. You are so full of bs I can smell you from here!!!!!!!!!!

    On June 30, 1962, the Holy Office issued a monitum (warning) regarding the writings of Father Teilhard de Chardin. In 1981 the Holy See reiterated this warning against rumors that it no longer applied. Following is the text of both the monitum and the 1981 statement:

    Admonition

    “Several works of Fr. Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, some of which were posthumously published, are being edited and are gaining a good deal of success.

    “Prescinding from a judgement about those points that concern the positive sciences, it is sufficiently clear that the above-mentioned works abound in such ambiguities and indeed even serious errors, as to offend Catholic doctrine.

    “For this reason, the most eminent and most revered Fathers of the Holy Office exhort all Ordinaries as well as the superiors of Religious institutes, rectors of seminaries and presidents of universities, effectively to protect the minds, particularly of the youth, against the dangers presented by the works of Fr. Teilhard de Chardin and of his followers.

    “Given at Rome, from the palace of the Holy Office, on the thirtieth day of June, 1962.

    Sebastianus Masala, Notarius”

    Communiqué of the Press Office of the Holy See (appearing in the English edition of L’Osservatore Romano, July 20, 1981) “The letter sent by the Cardinal Secretary of State to His Excellency Mons. Poupard on the occasion of the centenary of the birth of Fr. Teilhard de Chardin has been interpreted in a certain section of the press as a revision of previous stands taken by the Holy See in regard to this author, and in particular of the Monitum of the Holy Office of 30 June 1962, which pointed out that the work of the author contained ambiguities and grave doctrinal errors.

    “The question has been asked whether such an interpretation is well founded.

    “After having consulted the Cardinal Secretary of State and the Cardinal Prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which, by order of the Holy Father, had been duly consulted beforehand, about the letter in question, we are in a position to reply in the negative. Far from being a revision of the previous stands of the Holy See, Cardinal Casaroli’s letter expresses reservation in various passages—and these reservations have been passed over in silence by certain newspapers—reservations which refer precisely to the judgement given in the Monitum of June 1962, even though this document is not explicitly mentioned.”

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    Comment by Dan | July 29, 2008

  38. There was a time when most Protestant preachers viewed Rome as the great whore of Revelation. Numerous commentaries on Revelation point to this. Now they are beginning to join hands with her in a spirit of ecumenism. I don’t pretend to know much but I do know she is indeed a harlot and full of abominations. She also had a spirit of Dominionism and with it married the world and cruely ruled it. It makes sense that Joyner who also believes in Dominionism would side with Rome and her with him to regain the power she once had. Many have warned for years that the popes are antichrist and THE ANTICHRIST will be a pope.

    If you think about it, they do deny Christ has come in the flesh (the spirit of antichrist 1 John 4:3) if they believe in the immaculate conception, for then Christ was not truly human. How could Christ be truly human if not born of a woman with a sin nature as the rest of mankind? This they deny. The fact that Christ could be tempted and “was in ALL POINTS TEMPTED like as we are, yet without sin” proves He was born with our sin nature, only He overcame it. That is why He is worthy. Again, they deny Christ came in the flesh if they believe in the immaculate conception, and they do. They have the spirit of antichrist. There is an overwhelming amount of evidence here: http://www.remnantofgod.org/666-CHAR.htm

    I don’t believe in it’s assertions about the Seventh Day Adventist, but the rest is worth a read.

    Let us pray for wisdom, discernment, and strength in this final hour. I for one am growing weary of trying to discern the truth in a time when there are so many strange doctrines which make me groan in the spirit, and yet some tempt me. “And he shall speak great words against the most High, and wear out the saints …” (Dan:7:25).

    Comment by Bryant S. | August 4, 2008

  39. Miriam, can you give me the information I need to prove that Rick Joyner, Paul Cain, Mahesh Chavda, and Bobby Conner are Knights of Malta. My Dad would like to see the info. and I think it would be helpful so he can see where these people are coming from. I would appriciate it very much. Thank You and GOD BLESS!!!

    Comment by Vince | August 10, 2008

  40. Vince – in point number 5 Rick Joyner has written an article on the knights of Malta. How much more proof do you need, along with the book he is written, as well as his admittance on his website etc he is involved (although denying what it is)? There is stuff on the net about Bobby Conner, and Paul Cain and Mahesh Chavda being involved.

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | August 10, 2008

  41. I was more asking about the other 3 than Rick Joyner, and I missed which book it was of Joyners. I was hoping you had exact info. on the others, Im not real internet saavy.

    Comment by Vince | August 10, 2008

  42. Nevermind, I googled thier names and now have plenty of reading. I guess it doesnt take a rocket scientist. Me and my dad just had a long talk a couple days ago and I think he is starting to take notice,(starting). I was just trying to get the info. without having to dig for it. Oh well I guess I better get used to it if I decide to start a site myself.GOD BLESS!!!

    Comment by Vince | August 10, 2008

  43. Vince, I was in Bobby Conner’s church in Bullard, TX about 14-15 years ago. I remember when he came back from a “mission” trip and announced that he had be inducted/knighted as a knight of Malta. He went on like it was so cool and he would have all sorts of “diplomatic privileges” when he traveled. We didn’t know anything about it then and this is the first time I have read what they are really all about.

    Comment by DoubleGrace | August 31, 2008

  44. Todd to my knowledge is not in the Knights of Malta. Rick Joyner is and has been questioned on it.

    I just think you guys need to be steady, let determine the facts without even going into.

    As someone who has studied the Knights of Malta I would not that the article is a bit wild.

    Comment by dawkinswatch | September 3, 2008

  45. The sign of a person filled with the Holy Spirit is seen in the fruit of the Spirit and not the gifts. We have to feel sorry for the thousands of deceived people who listened to Todd Bentley. The Apostles were never leaders in excitement. The Charismatice movement is divisive. It has failed to righly divide the Word of Truth and led to the mess the 21st Century church is in today. May the Lord deliver us from all its false healers and prophets and give them repentance.

    Comment by Greg Hanley | September 3, 2008


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