American Blind Faith in Political Leaders?
Canadians are leery about mixing politics and religion – Evangelical Christians have greater influence in the U.S. than they do here
By Douglas Todd, from Vancouver Sun, October 04, 2008
“What do Democrats Barack Obama and Joe Biden, and Republicans John McCain and Sarah Palin, have in common?
All four candidates for U.S. president and vice-president have made it clear, exceedingly clear, they’re proud Christians.
None is willing to follow the wishes of many annoyed Canadians and refrain from ending speeches with “God bless America.”
Canada has become more secular in its makeup since church attendance started dropping in the 1950s.
Religion, specifically Christianity, plays a much bigger role in American politics than it does north of the border. God talk just can’t be avoided down there – thanks to the overwhelming Protestant presence.
And even though it’s not unethical by definition to invoke a Supreme Being from a political stage, the practice can be manipulated. It can even be abused for demogoguery, through suggesting, for instance, questionable wars and policies reflect “God’s will.”
That doesn’t mean the word God doesn’t ever sneak into Canadian politics. Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who is quiet about his loyalty to the evangelical Alliance Church, will sometimes talk of his faith, carefully. Harper has also been known to declare “God bless Canada.”
Former Liberal PM Jean Chretien, a Catholic, occasionally mentioned God, including in this novel way: “God gave me a physical defect [a facial tic] . . . but I accepted that because God gave me other qualities and I’m grateful.”
Still, there are many fascinating reasons Canadian politicians are much less inclined than their American counterparts to, as typically skeptical Canadians might put it, “play the God card.”
I’ll cite a few of them.
The most obvious is the rising strength of white evangelical Protestants. They make up one out of four Americans.
They feel divinely motivated to convert others to their Jesus, and some are ready to use politics as part of that. Seventy-eight per cent of conservative white evangelicals voted for George W. Bush in the past two presidential campaigns. It made all the difference.
Conservative politicians north of the border don’t have this huge religious voting advantage because fewer than one out of 10 Canadians belong to evangelical churches.
And while many evangelicals quietly support Canada’s Conservatives – half of Harper’s caucus of MPs are evangelical – most don’t have any illusions they can openly bring most Canadians onside with their beliefs.
Canadians are like secularized Europeans that way. Of the world’s industrialized countries, the U.S. is the most religious and most Christian.
It wasn’t always this way.
In the early 20th century, Canada had a much higher percentage of the population attending churches than in the U.S., as North America’s leading historian of religion, Mark Noll (an evangelical), writes in A History of Christianity in Canada and the U.S.
Beginning in the 1950s, however, Canadian church attendance dropped off dramatically, as it did in Europe. At the same time, however, U.S. evangelical churches began to become more appealing, particularly to the middle classes.
The trend has caused many U.S. evangelical leaders to become carried away and aggressively declare theirs is a “Christian nation” – and always has been.
The First Amendment Center last year released a poll that showed 55 per cent of Americans believe the Founding Fathers were Christians who enshrined Christianity in the U.S. Constitution.
But it’s a fiction. In his scholarly book, The Faith of the Founding Fathers, David Holmes shows those who formed the U.S. republic fell into several religious categories. Some were Christians, but many others were Enlightenment rationalists or Deists, which meant they believed in a God but not that Jesus was divine.
Despite the wishes of born-again U.S. pastors, evangelicalism is strong but not dominant in the U.S. Religious pluralism still holds. It explains why Republicans nearly always get a run for their money when they pursue the presidency, Congress, the Senate or governorships.
Even though 26 per cent of Americans are white evangelical Protestants, another seven per cent are black Protestants and 18 per cent are mainline Protestant – the latter two often leaning Democrat. Another 24 per cent of Americans are Catholic, and they spread their votes around.
As do Canadian Catholics.
The role of Catholicism in Canada is the most important factor explaining the striking gap between Canada and the U.S. when it comes to religion in politics.
Catholics make up 43 per cent of this officially bilingual country, compared to Protestants at 30 per cent. Catholics have tended to veer to the Liberal party.
Catholics don’t talk about “Chosen Nations” and neither do Canada’s mainline Protestants.
Canadian Catholics are also not as loyal to their religious leaders as U.S. evangelicals. Polls consistently show most Canadian Catholics, only one-third of whom regularly attend church, do not adhere to Vatican teachings on personal moral issues such as abortion and homosexuality. Beyond religious demographics, I’d maintain the strong injection of religion into U.S. politics also has a great deal to with the declining role played by its governments.
With the downsizing of the social welfare state in the U.S., any lingering trust that the government will be there to help when times are tough is virtually gone.
In such an insecure milieu, scholars have shown many Americans are increasingly turning to their church (or synagogue or mosque) for security – for an identity, community and even livelihood.
Evangelical mega-churches, hundreds of which have more than 10,000 members, operate like virtual cities, offering adherents everything from financial support and sports clubs to job networks and food supplies.
Many evangelical Christians pastors believe this is the best way to run a country. So they urge their followers to support politicians who champion charity and claim to believe in small government.
The final reason I’ll cite for why Christianity plays such a big role in U.S. politics is that Americans have become more deferential to authority than Canadians.
Environics Research has discovered through polling that a strong contingent of Americans feel more afraid than Canadians and are ready to obey certain leaders to deal with it. They especially look up to religious figures.
Canadians have their own weaknesses to be sure, but I’d suggest a lack of skepticism about leaders is not the worst of them.
Gullibility seems much stronger among many Americans than Canadians. The culture of marketing, sloganeering and celebrity in the U.S. is on overdrive 24/7.
Many Americans have been having Jesus hawked as the simplistic Answer – through the soaring oratory of leading pastors and some politicians. And it’s had an impact.
It’s no coincidence, for instance, that motorcycle-driving B.C. faith healer Todd Bentley – a former criminal who sports full-body tattoos and sometimes punches and kicks people to “cure” them – was this summer drawing more than 30,000 people a week to his Pentecostal revivals in the U.S. In Canada, in contrast, Bentley was lucky to draw a thousand evangelicals to his emotion-charged services. Now Bentley is in disgrace. And most Canadians, including many evangelicals, aren’t surprised about his fall.
Compared to Americans, fewer Canadians are willing to place blind faith in their leaders, either religious or political. So they certainly don’t see any advantage in mixing the two.”
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In Canada, in contrast, Bentley was lucky to draw a thousand evangelicals to his emotion-charged services. Now Bentley is in disgrace. And most Canadians, including many evangelicals, aren’t surprised about his fall. Doug Todd
Todd Bentley is still in hiding? And the fools and deceivers of the Revival Alliance including Bill Johnson, Che Ahe and John Arnott have not healed Todd’s marriage through their words or prayers? Yes they are all off the wall!
The simple truth is……….
Do people who profess to read the Bible, really believe the Bible? COME ON DO YOU? TELL ME I AM CHALLANGING YOU!TELL ME? DO YOU?
Come on now people………….
How long have you been sitting under the teaching of the Gospel/Word of God? And you really fell for this Todd Bentley stuff? Now folks, really (TELL THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH) did you really fall for this Peter Wagner & Todd Bentley MESS? Have we not learned anything? Are you really gonna profess to have walked with the Father this many years and say, “I fell for this?” Come on now…………
yOU ARE A BABY IN CHRIST!???????
I’M SORRY PEOPLE!
I just don’t believe you really FELL FOR IT…………
SOMEHOW I THINK YOU REALLY ,REALLY DID NOT FALL FOR THIS!
You got the Holy Spirit living within you. He gave you a check! You must be honest and tell the truth. The Holy Spirit GAVE YOU A CHECK, and you know He did!
ANYBODY THAT IS WALKING WITH THE LORD, IS INTUNE WITH THE FATHER “KNEW” THIS WAS A FALSE BUNCH OF MESS!” COME ON, TELL THE TRUTH, IF NOT TO ANYONE ELSE BUT YOURSELF, “PEOPLE YOU “KNEW” SOMETHING WAS BAD WRONG!” ADMITT IT! hOW CAN YOU LIE TO YOURSELF! lET’S GET REAL!
We could learn some lessons from Canadians.Maybe fewer of us would be duped by all the false prophets, preachers, apostles etc.(wolves) and put our trust in God and not in politicians.
Due to a situation that I was involved with that it was within a local church..I am not surprise at leadership and their failures..I saw for myself the failures of man and how man can surely mess up things that will cause a church to fail..it will affect the entire church..it affects the body of Christ..I have seen too many ‘lack of accountability’ in some churches when their leaders fail due to falling into major sin and then they act like nothing is wrong..self examination is a step in the right direction and seeking God and His righteousness..I am just one American and this is my comment..
Not all of us place blind faith in our “leaders”.
Some of us know the following:
Republican = Nazi
Democrat = Communist
3rd Party = Ruse
Granted, most American voters are easily pacified with a remote in one hand, a beer in the other and a chorus line of cheerleaders on the big screen, but there are a handful of people left here that see through the LIES.
Here is a great article concerning THE NEW “APOSTOLIC REFORMATION” DECEPTION with C. Peter Wagner and Chuck Pierce who make up Global Harvest Ministries which regrettably has worldwide connections and influence among many leaders.
http://www.safeguardyoursoul.com/html/c__peter_wagner.html
Interesting article. Although, I have to say, I think the typical evangelical Canadian places just as much blind faith in their church leaders as those in the US. Granted, they are in smaller number, which is likely why it hasn’t reached into the political arena in the same way, but they are just as blind when it comes to their religious leaders. And here in the province of Newfoundland and Labrador, where I live, the bulk of the people, regardless of religious affiliation or lack thereof, have definitely placed blind trust in our current provincial leader, but that’s a whole other story.
As far as the mega churches in the US go (and the one or two in Canada), while I do leave room for an exception (though I doubt there’s one out there) they have typically gotten to be “mega” churches by pandering to the innate greed and selfishness in people by selling them another gospel which attracts people by telling them about the wonderful wealthy and self-centred life they can have in the “kingdom”. The cross and the idea of sacrifice has no place in such churches.
I think it’s summed up well in a quote I once read (not sure who the author was) which went like this:
“Christianity began as a movement in Jerusalem,
became a philosophy in Greece,
became an institution in Rome,
became a culture in Europe,
and became a business in America!”