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Shepherding, Discipleship, Spiritual Fathering, Mentoring, Pastoral Covering

Article by Tom Killingsworth from here -

WHAT IS SHEPHERDING?

There is a world of difference between shepherding and Shepherding. The first, shepherding with a small “s” is merely the concept of a loving teacher or pastor or even congregation member helping a new Christian to understand the faith. It’s what we’re all supposed to do.

The second, Shepherding with a capital “S” is a formal set of beliefs and teachings that are hurting a lot of Christians and driving them from the church with running, open wounds on their hearts. It’s this second one, Shepherding, that I want to address, because it’s spiritual abuse at its worst.

Shepherding began around 1974 as a good idea.

The original concept of Shepherding was created by five south Florida pastors – Bob Mumford, Derek Prince, Charles Simpson, Ern Baxter and Don Basham – as a way to deal with what they saw as dissolution in the Charismatic movement. It stated that the pastor of a church provided an umbrella of protection for the congregation, shielding them from the evil outside. To enjoy this protection, the congregation had to submit to the pastor’s authority. The idea was to develop strong disciples for Christ.

That sounds Biblical enough. But the movement went bad about as quickly as kudzu overrunning a barn in Tennessee; virtually overnight. It seems the faster it grew in popularity, the worse it became. Eventually, Shepherding gave the pastor total and ultimate authority over all his congregation, including what they ate, what they wore, where they worked, who they married, and how many children a couple could have. The pastor also had the authority to tell congregation members where to go to school, what to study, what to read, what movies to watch, who their friends would be, and how to worship God. People who didn’t like what the pastor, the elders, or the cell group leaders told them to do were called rebellious and subject to extreme discipline. Shepherding quickly devolved from an idea to help disciple a congregation into sheer tyranny. All of this was done in the name of accountability and discipleship.

Mumford apologized and publicly repented for the movement in 1990, and it kinda died out, maintaining a loose life through smaller, more obscure churches and ministries.

But about the year 2000, it resurfaced again, in the guise of the Mentoring/ Accountability/ Discipleship programs.

Same fleas, different dog. Call it what you will, Discipleship, Mentoring, Accountability, Discipline, Covering; it is still Shepherding.

It’s funny, but if the program has a small letter in its name (i.e., accountability), it seems to be pretty good. If it hosts a capital letter (i.e., Accountability), it’s another form of Shepherding. Just a thought; something to look out for.

Shepherding is based on pride, manipulation and arrogance. I’ve lost track of the number of Charismatic Christians I’ve heard recently say things like “I mentor twelve people!” or “I have twenty submitted to me.” Sounds like a multi-level marketing downline, not a church! Unfortunately, this kind of attitude is no longer limited to just the Charismatic churches (Word of Faith, Pentecostal, Assembly of God Church of God, non-denominational). It is now infecting the Evangelicals as well (Baptist, Methodist, Church of Christ, Presbyterian, Disciples of Christ, Nazarene).The Sacramentals (Catholic, Anglican, Lutheran, Orthodox) seem to be avoiding it … so far.

The concept of discipleship, accountability and mentoring are noble in themselves. What Christian doesn’t want to be a good disciple of Christ? In the old days, being a good disciple was learned in Sunday School, through time spent in prayer, by studying the Bible, and living the Sermon on the Mount with one’s neighbors.

Accountability is also a good concept, especially for those of us who are flawed and have habitual sins in our lives. But it should be lateral, as in friendship. A good friend will not let another friend remain mired in alcoholism or pornography.

And mentoring is just an outgrowth of the teacher-student relationship, as in the violin teacher who sees a gift in his pupil, and gives her more time than just her thirty minutes a week. He encourages her to try new songs, enter competitions and stretch herself on her fiddle.

It is when these noble concepts cross a line and become Shepherding that the problems arise. A sure sign that they have crossed the line is when phrases are flung like snowballs … phrases such as “You need someone in your chain of command,” and “You need to be accountable to someone,” and “You need to be submitted to someone,” and “You need a covering.” This is when good ideas go bad.

The current trend in Discipleship began as a good idea; a way to raise up mature Christians who could raise up more mature Christians. But it has an innate problem. It is based on the idea that Paul was Timothy’s spiritual father. He may have been, but where else in the Bible do we find that we are supposed to have any other spiritual father other than God Himself? The concept of having to have a spiritual father who is human, and be a spiritual child to another human being is not Biblical. If it happens, it happens, but it should be an organic thing, not organized like a bridge club in a small Georgia town.

Accountability began as a way to keep the pastor from running off with the church secretary and the funds (which is in itself negative, because that’s assuming the pastor is going to fail and sin) and quickly became a way of controlling people for our own purposes, which are usually selfish. According to the Mentoring / Discipleship doctrine, Christians must be discipled by one Master in an authoritarian relationship to be a true disciple of Christ. This is supposedly set up after the system that Jesus had over the twelve apostles. This subordinate relationship with another Christian is necessary to bear “fruit,” which is specifically defined as the replication of more disciples. So, the Discipleship / Mentoring concept establishes a hierarchical chain of members by placing men in the position of Master and Disciple. In business, they used to call this a Pyramid Scheme. In the pre-Civil War South, it was called slavery.

It’s interesting that the ones who bark the loudest and say “You must have accountability, you must have a mentor, you must have a chain of command” are also thinking “And I’m the one to do it.” If someone says to you that “You must have a chain of command,” tell them something like “Okay, I’ll submit to my Dad and let him mentor me” and see how angry that other person suddenly becomes!

Someone who is actually called to mentor others, by God Himself, is quiet about it. They don’t go looking for someone to correct. People come to them and ask advice. The ancient Chinese proverb comes to mind here – “When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.” The onus is on the student, not the teacher. In true mentoring, it is the student who is the focus and the source of initiating mentorship, not the teacher.

Then there is the Covering movement. We Charismatics (and I suspect now that quite a few Evangelicals, too) have been taught that all Christians must have a spiritual covering. That’s a polite way of saying that we have to have a boss telling us what to do. So many Christians run around like chickens with their heads cut off, in a total panic, begging “Who is my covering?” Paul is pretty plain about the covering issue, in the only passage in the New Testament where a “covering” is mentioned (at least in the translation that I read). He writes in 1 Corinthians 11:3, “But there is one thing I want you to know: A man is responsible to Christ.” Period. Jesus is my covering. Jesus is your covering. Why do we need people to cover us when we have Jesus? What human being can dare say that they can do a better job of protecting and leading and teaching and guiding us than Jesus Christ? What arrogance can make such a boast?

We Christians do not need to put up with Shepherding, Mentoring, Discipleship or Covering. Sure we need shepherds, but shepherds are protectors, not dictators. Sure we need mentors, but mentors are teachers, not tyrants. Sure we need to be discipled, but disciplers are friends, not overlords. Sure we need a covering, but His name is Jesus, not Bob or Percy or Janice or Felonia.

Shepherding pastors and ministers posture and position themselves. They surround themselves with yes men and women to protect themselves. They blast and shoot down any challenge and defend themselves using three scriptures, because, as the Bible says, let every word be established by three witnesses. Some even go so far as to have their “armor bearers” carry guns and rough up any detractor in town.

They develop an aloof attitude and say something that a lot of us have heard … “Don’t touch the anointed!”

Jesus never said “don’t touch me.” He said “who touched me?” Paul never said “don’t question me.” He said “I will answer your question.” Peter didn’t say “don’t touch God’s anointed.” He listened when Paul challenged him in public. Moses was called the meekest man on Earth. Meek people are touchable. David led his men and lived with them in a cave when we was being hunted by Saul. Our Biblical examples were all touchable. They were all leaders. They were eager to answer questions. They were people who lived with people. They were shepherds who smelled like sheep.

Shepherding is no longer confined to the Charismatic churches. Evangelical churches, mostly Baptist and Methodist, are now following this trend. A recent Wall Street Journal article cites several cases of the growing phenomenon of “disciplining” congregation members.

The pastors who do this say that they are simply doing what the New Testament says to do, in order to correct sin.

For instance, a Baptist church in Michigan had an elderly congregation member arrested and removed during a church service. Her crime? Questioning the pastor’s authority and insisting that he follow the church charter and have a deacon board.

A 4,000 member church in Dallas, Texas, requires that all members sign an oath stating that they will submit to the correction and guidance of church elders.

A 6,000 member church in Nashville expelled 74 members for gossip. And a Baptist church in Virginia voted out a member for talking about the pastor’s plans to build a bigger house.

The Wall Street Journal article estimates that between 16,000 and 20,000 American churches are now practicing some form of “discipline.”

That tells me that Shepherding is a virus and it is now out of control. It is quite permissible for a pastor to have a disruptive person removed from a service. And it is quite permissible for a pastor to ask someone who is blatantly sinning to leave the church. But this goes beyond that. This is public humiliation….

Yep. Shepherding is gaining a foothold in the Evangelical churches. How it got there is beyond me! But it needs to leave.  

SIGNS OF A SHEPHERDING CHURCH

There is a difference between a truly Christlike church and a Shepherding church. If you are still confused about what makes a Shepherding church, let’s go over the signs. If you see these in your church or the ministry that you are associated with, then you are involved in a Shepherding church and you should run for your very life! These signs are similar to the signs of a spiritually abusive church. They will be similar – all Shepherding churches are spiritually abusive, but not all spiritually abusive churches are Shepherding churches.

A few of these signs will surface in just about any church, so if you recognize one or two, don’t worry. The best ministers are still human, and even Peter and Paul made mistakes and hurt people. But if you recognize a majority, then it’s time to re-evaluate where that church stands in your life.

Signs of a Shepherding Church

1. It is common for there to be no accountability of leadership to the church body or to an ecclesiastical authority in some form of denominational body. This does not mean that all non-denominational, independent churches are Shepherding churches. It just seems that most Charismatic churches that are Shepherding churches are not accountable to any organization. And, as we will see later in this book, some major denominations are now practicing Shepherding techniques.

2. The congregation, however, is totally accountable to the leadership of the church.

3. Extreme emphasis is placed on the authority of the pastors and the elders. Jesus, the Holy Spirit and the Bible take a back seat to the authority of the leadership of the church.

4. Elders, deacons, associate pastors, cell group leaders, etc., are picked by the senior pastor, not by the congregation.

5. Emphasis on the full five-fold ministry, with an undue amount of attention given to the apostle and the prophet.

6. Leaders are untouchable. They remain aloof from the congregation. Attempts to get to know them or to question them are met with “Don’t touch God’s anointed!”

7. The prophetic gifts are used to manipulate the congregation. Doom will be prophesied over someone who does not fully submit to the authority of leadership.

8. Loyalty to the pastor and the church is stressed, at the expense of loyalty to the congregation member’s family and to God.

9. Oaths and vows are enforced on the congregation. Some of these include oaths of loyalty to the pastor, a promise to submit to the direction of church leaders, and vows of chastity by single people.

10. Congregation members are told that the primary way to receive God’s blessings and to be protected from the power of Satan is to submit to the authority of the pastor and other leaders.

11. There is great emphasis on proper behavior and “sin management.” The verse “avoid the appearance of evil” will be used repeatedly.

12. Cell groups are “accountability groups,”instead of Bible study or prayer groups. Cell groups are a great idea, but when they are used to control the congregation’s behavior, instead of studying the Bible on a more intimate level, there is something wrong.

13. Undue emphasis is placed on the public image of the church and ministry.

14. Undue emphasis is placed on what is appropriate behavior by the congregation.

15. Leadership seems to spend more time telling the congregation what to do than in teaching the congregation how to be a witness for Jesus to a dying world.

16. Directions for proper behavior seem to be rather prying and intimate. The congregation is told that they must do these things to receive God’s blessings, live a Christlike life and be good disciples of Jesus. These directions are not offered as suggestions, but as commands. These direction include, but are not limited to, being told what to wear, what to read, what movies or television shows to watch, what to eat and drink, who to date, who to marry, how to have sex with one’s spouse, how many children to have, how to raise one’s children, who one’s friend will be, where one should live, what job one should have, how many hours per day to pray and read the Bible, and how much money to give to the church.

17. Teachings are guilt and works based, instead of grace and salvation based.

18. Church members do not have the right to vote on church decisions. Decisions are made by church leaders on behalf of the congregation. In many cases, church members have no idea how the church money is spent, even though it came out of their pockets. This will be called the New Testament model of the church.

19. Small children in Sunday school or nurseries are subjected to corporal punishment to “drive the rebellion from them,” and are told that they need to repent for something as trivial as pulling the toys out of the toybox without permission. This happens at ages as young as two years old, an age that most theologians recognize as being too young to understand the concepts of rebellion and repentance.

20. Rejection or questioning of the authority, doctrines or teachings of the church is dealt with through “discipline,” which may include public humiliation of the congregation member or being kicked out of the church. At the least, the congregation member who does the questioning is called rebellious, and quite possibly accused of witchcraft.

21. Leadership encourages (sometimes demands) that congregation members become their “armor bearers,” basing this concept on one little guy who appears once in the Bible – Jonathan’s armor bearer in 1 Samuel 14. While Jonathan’s armor bearer as also his friend and advisor, Shepherding church armor bearers are assigned menial tasks such as cleaning the pastors’ toilets and carrying their jackets and Bibles. They are sometimes totally ignored by leadership, not being spoken to for years.

22. Members who leave the church without the formal consent and blessing of leadership are shunned, or publicly slandered.

23. Former church members display a form of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. They report not wanting to go to church ever again, have difficulty reading their Bibles, and say that any thought of doing either causes them to be nauseated. They may also have stories of having been stalked or threatened by church leaders after they left.

These are terrible things! They are more in keeping with a cult than any Christlike church. I feel such shame and horror at having to list them as signs of any church, yet they exist and are growing and consuming people like the Blob in a trailer park.”

December 1, 2008 - Posted by endtimespropheticwords | Abusive Churches - Spiritual Abuse, Bob Mumford, Cults, Derek Prince, Don Basham, Ern Baxter, False Prophets and Teachers, Heavy shepherding | , , , , , | 24 Comments

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  1. One local church’s website calls for mentoring of the unchurched in order to be a member. What a crock!! This is obviously a set up for manipulation and control and of course money. Let’s never forget the money which is at the root of this abusive system.

    Comment by Canadanorth | December 1, 2008

  2. Oh how bad memories come flooding back. I am amazed to read about this because I thought that all this nonsense had ceased. The more I hear these stories, the happier I am that we left ‘church’ behind years ago.
    As I have said before, I am freer and closer to Jesus than ever I was when shackled by stuff such as this.
    My body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, from whom I take all authority, so I am in church constantly. My Bible is my instrument for teaching, and my heart and mouth are my source of praise and worship. It works fantastically.
    Derek Prince lamented over the Fort Lauderdale set up, exactly as you have posted about Miriam, as he recorded in His biography. He confessed that he was never happy with Shepherding and repented of his involvement. When he met Ruth and felt God told him to marry her and the other four dictated that he shouldn’t, it was the turning point that caused him to move away. Soon after was when it all collapsed, at least it seemed to for a while. I am gutted that it is still out there, as it did such a lot of serious damage to many.

    Comment by Sylvia | December 1, 2008

  3. This describes the Copeland church at his headquarters to a “T.” The only people who defend them are either new or haven’t learned any Word on their own, on their payroll, or believe God is going to give them the big bucks as that church and ministry tells them.

    Sure is funny how his gimmicky catch-phrase for each year never comes true for anybody at the church. But they keep believing it, desperately hoping for it. In January they’ll have a new one.

    How about The Year of Justice? With all of their tails in jail.

    Comment by Gary | December 1, 2008

  4. If Shepherding began in 1974, then it went downhill very quickly, at least in England. I became a Christian in 1974, and very soon was under the influence of Shepherding (or Heavy Shepherding, as I’ve heard it called more often). Of course, it wasn’t called that. But being a new Christian, I didn’t know any better. More ‘mature’ friends told me what I could and couldn’t do. Apparently I had to stop being friends with a clergyman, because he wasn’t filled with the Spirit. How did they know that? One of them went round to his house, unannounced, and just asked him point blank ‘Do you speak in tongues?’ When the answer wasn’t Yes (my answer would have been a lot more forthright concerning an unannounced grilling from this jerk!), it was clear to this person that he wasn’t filled with Spirit, and therefore he was in outer darkness.
    It would take me too long to describe the complete turmoil, chaos and damage these people caused. I was once visited by someone who wanted to set up a fellowship in the town where this happened, who wanted to know what had happened TEN YEARS previous, as the uproar and bedlam was still being talked about! He was given my name as someone who had been in the thick of it.
    The worst thing about Shepherding, and all other forms of spiritual abuse, is the effect on those who are so damaged and hurt that they stop being effective Christians, which is exactly what the enemy wants.

    Comment by John Wiltshire | December 1, 2008

  5. I read this post and commented above just before going to bed, which proved foolish as it gave me a busy mind and a sleepless night with all the memories coming back. It has occurred to me that it is only the TERM Shepherding that seemed to cease. The CONTROL factor not only remains, but has got worse with the passing of time, hence this mess.
    I re-live many incidents but relate just this one:
    Heartbeat, a christian singing group of the 80’s came for one week to evangelise and we hosted three of them. A request was made at our home group for ladies to make large pizza’s ( two each) for the Saturday. When no one volunteered, the leader rang me and instructed me to make two. I said I did not have the time and he said I must make time. I said I had never made a pizza and did not have a recipe. He told me to ring a certain lady and get the recipe and make two pizza’s. I was speechless, but muttered, “are you telling me I HAVE TO do this”, to which he replied, “yes I am, it is an order”. I put down the phone and told my husband, who rang him back to say we were hosting/feeding THREE group members and Sylvia will NOT be making any pizza’s, THAT IS AN ORDER.
    Afterwards, the issue of the pizza,s was totally ignored, but the issue of our rebellion was highlighted big-time.
    I am sure you can all tell similar tales. SHEPHERDING BAH!

    Comment by Sylvia | December 1, 2008

  6. THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD, I SHALL NOT WANT.

    Comment by Sylvia | December 1, 2008

  7. I remember that armor bearer nonsense. Good ‘ol Pastor Stan taught us that in the membership classes we had to go through at the time to become a member. Just giving these people their own personal slave.

    These false ministries do not follow the Bible at all in how they run their church. They ignore the New Testament teachings on how to run a church, where everybody is equal in Christ, and pull all of their teachings out of Old Testament scriptures, a scripture here and a scripture there, that don’t even apply to the situation at all.

    Terri Pearsons said that Pastor Stan was her bodyguard, and told us how good he was at shooting his guns. And the people just take it. These people are their Lord, not Jesus. Whatever they say and do goes, even when the people know they’re lying through their teeth.

    People can see big shots in all fields when they need to, but you can’t see the people at the top of this organization no matter what. It’s only a corrupt local church, but they have all authority over the people.

    Oh, yeah, it’s because they are people of God, so they have a higher calling. I forgot that. I just wish I was still working in a criminal court and could see my judge send these idiots to prison, while their lackeys looked on.

    But you can’t have everything, even if you confess for it constantly and believe it, unlike what they teach. That would have been a good thing to confess and believe for though.

    Comment by Gary | December 1, 2008

  8. I think this is also the blueprint that the NAR have in mind for the church world wide. Add “Apostolic” with a capital A to the list that equals “Shepherding”.

    Comment by DoubleGrace | December 1, 2008

  9. And the root of all evil is money…..

    Comment by WatEenZooitje | December 1, 2008

  10. May more false churches be exposed for what they do and how they teach unholy doctrine..thanks for well needed information..after leaving a church who allowed a sexual predator in..(the predator was a fugitive on the run from a Asian country for molesting children on a missionary base)..the pastor allowed the member back into full fellowship and ministry at the church…after this experience..nothing surprises me in what happens in some churches..(for the record, I was the only one from that church who reported the predator to federal authorities)
    That is why I am a child abuse advocate today. I no longer attend that church, because the church doesn’t make anyone accountable for their sexual sins. Sick, huh?

    Comment by Lela | December 2, 2008

  11. Jesus said “Go and make disciples” to His apostles.

    Discipleship is very important to Jesus. The problem is,we have the wrong people in the wrong places. Self apointed men. I believe you need to study more about the leaders God has chosen n the word. Not just quote things to prove your point.

    I believe the order of the authority we need to submit to in His church is, first Jesus Christ second, His leaders the ones He has chosen (5 fold ministry) thirdly, His body.

    Jesus Christ is the head of His church He is the covering of His body. Submitting to Christ’s authority is being connected to where He wants,who He wants you with and doing exactly what He tells you to do!

    If your are not doing these things, then you are not covered by Him!

    True leaders help people grow in the obedience to Jesus Christ, their relationship with Him and His character.

    Comment by Bruceleon | December 2, 2008

  12. When you don’t discpline your children and correct them and train them up the way they should go. This is also abuse. We have a lot bastards in the church. This is also dangerous!

    Hebrews 12:6-8.

    Comment by Bruceleon | December 2, 2008

  13. Bruceleon, you have made great points proving what this blog is all about. Of course people can’t go around committing criminal acts and causing commotion and disrupting church. But a false balance is an abomination to the Lord.

    You have said we aren’t supposed to “quote things” to prove our point? In other words, quoting the Word is wrong, while the “Divine Revelation” that God gives these people is supposed to blindly be followed, even when it’s clearly against the Word, because “God is doing a new thing nowadays”?

    That’s right. We have examples of leaders in the New Testament church. That’s what is supposed to be followed, not pieces of Old Testament examples which were before there was a church.

    Jesus said to go and make disciples, TEACHING them to observe all He commanded, NOT ordering them around by the “new revelation” that has nothing to do with the Word.

    Jesus also said that we have ONE father, God. Period. Not a “spiritual father” by power hungry false teachers.

    Where do you get that there are bastards in the church if they are born again? When did you become their father, against what Jesus said?

    They are supposed to obey the teachings of the Lord, which are not even mentioned in these churches, not the garbage they try to put on the people, like ordering them what to do in their personal lives, making people their own personal slaves, et cetera.

    Where do you get that people are not covered by the Lord if they are not submitting to leaders in the church who don’t even follow the Word, but tell them things to do that aren’t in the Word?

    You correct your CHILDREN or people under you in your family and train them up in the way they should go, or correct people who work for you (including how to do the church VOLUNTEER work, if you are over them in that).

    You don’t have one ounce of authority over people who are just church members in their personal lives, or to order them around in the church beyond that volunteer work. That is not the Word of God, and that is nothing but cult abuse.

    The New Testament shows very well what kind of authority there is in the church, regardless of what you believe.

    Comment by Gary | December 5, 2008

  14. Gary ,I believe you are misunderstanding my point of view. All I am saying is that their are two sides to every story. Your seeing things one sided. There are cultic type leaders in the church but there is also rebellious saints who don’t listen to anyone but themselves and have no acountablity and responsibility to rest of the body of Christ.

    Remember, “I said Jesus is the head of His church”. He is the covering not man. We must first submit to Him. Many have there own hidden agendas from the pulpit to the pew! And submit to no one.

    By the way, I know the word of God quite well, both the old and new testament. More important I have a relationship with the One who wrote it. We must speak and quote from the whole word of God not just from scriptures to prove our own point of view and personal experience. I could quote lots of scripture to prove my point. We could back and forth for days instead of putting to both sides together and producing a whole clear picture of what He is saying to us.

    We have rebellious cultic leaders and we have rebellious saints, who look for any excuse not to listen to any else but themselves. As if God only speaks to them and not anyone else.

    Comment by Bruceleon | December 6, 2008

  15. There are a lot of holes on what is being shared on this sight. I can see the points some are making. But at the same time I am flooded with lots of scriptures that are missing in some of the judgements and assements that are being made here.

    We have to walk in the whole counsel and word of God to see things clearly from God perspective.

    If we are going to judge we must rightly divide the word of truth. Not just quote scriptures to prove our own point.

    Jesus made no judgements by himself but by and through the Father.

    Comment by Bruceleon | December 6, 2008

  16. Derek Prince clearly taught against the Shepherding Movement later on: http://www.geocities.com/lostorfound_2/Deception.htm

    —Sidharth

    Comment by Sidharth | December 13, 2008

  17. http://www.geocities.com/lostorfound_2/Deception2.htm#6

    (This is the link, sorry.)

    Comment by Sidharth | December 13, 2008

  18. I thought these things happened only in the west but churches in India are also being affected by this kind of Shepherding which made me stop attending churches void Of the truth which lead men into bondage and law, But some of the faithful dont seem to realize that they are being misled inspite of the warnings instead they call me a lost case, May the Lord open their eyes that they may see.

    Comment by faithworks | December 13, 2008

  19. When I was a young christian, I heard the spirit of God speak to me and say that He would be my covering. At the time I didn’t really understand what He was saying. In hindsight, I had just left a church (He told me to) that was spiritually abusive, although I didn’t realize it was. The next church I attended for several years had some of the same teachings, but not quite as severe. During that time I married and leadership changed in the church, and everything went downhill.
    #23** Former church members display a form of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. They report not wanting to go to church ever again, have difficulty reading their Bibles, and say that any thought of doing either causes them to be nauseated** This hits home so strongly for me. When my
    husband and I left we felt abandoned by some of our closest “friends”, and my husband became physically ill because of the stress from all of it. He no longer wanted to attend church, and I didnt want to read the word or associate with “christians”. But God is good and loving. He never leaves us nor does He forsake us. Isaiah 49:15 says, “See, I will not forget you, I have you carved in the palm of my hand”. He has kept us and is restoring us daily. Praise God!!!

    Comment by Misty | December 17, 2008

  20. Be very careful. You are throwing out the baby with the bath water. There is nothing unhealthy about discipleship. Encouraging people to study the Bible and covering basics of Faith is a positive endeavor. I feel it is inappropriate to label Discispleship as a form of shepherding.

    Comment by Lover of the Word | September 7, 2009

  21. “The road to hell is paved with good intentions” seems fitting here. Altho’ not noted (as far as I can see) above, Mumford was a latecomer to the apology / change of heart / renouncing of extremist views crowd. Derek Prince, had done so years before …one thing tho’ it is a shame that the good that the ministries of these men, Prince, Basham, Baxter, Simpson, and Mumford accomplished before and after the shepherding controversy, is lost on many.

    Comment by gitardood | November 3, 2009

  22. I think! It was Arthur Wallis who was instrumental in bringing this concept to Britain. I read his book on this subject many years ago and yes it sounded good on the surface. From him came men like Bryn Jones and Terry Virgo. However it became quickly obvious that the reality was something else.

    I have seen churches with this philosophy and today they are wrecked. Congregations have been devastated. If you look at the history of the popes it clearly shows that man can not handle that sort of power.

    I remember a pastor got up one day and told his congregations that from that point only he and his elders were the only ones to hear from God. WE LEFT!!!

    Another was adamant that you had to submit to his leadership, and sign on the dotted line; all the while he was secretly having an extra martial relationship with a woman in his church. He left and the church imploded.

    I have seen men try and introduce this philosophy into their church for the sole reason of wanting control. Pastors are instrumental in pointing people to Jesus and not to themselves. When men look to control others it does not matter what name you give to it, its bondage and slavery. When the Holy Spirit seeks to control people it brings liberty and freedom.

    It’s the job of the leadership to bring people to a place were they can learn to trust God for themselves. When people demand you sign submission forms, starts doing talks on spiritual covering or other shepherding lingo, it’s the first sign that the way out is beckoning.

    The strange thing is people keep coming up with new names but it’s the same old philosophy. SHEPHERDING brought power and that power corrupted. This teaching (thinking) was instrumental in corrupting many a good pastor. They started of as shepherds but soon became tyrants. While it’s true the Lauderdale five apologised for the abuses their teachings had caused, the damaged was DONE!! It’s like an arsonist apologising after he has burned down your house. IT’S TOO LATE!!!
    While the arsonist may have stopped and apologised his children just kept on burning down whatever they could.

    The spirit of the Lauderdale Five just kept rolling on. Derek Prince and his cohorts will have to answer to God for the damage they have caused. That spirit still exists in the church today.

    1 Peter 5:3,5 “Neither as being LORDS over [God's] heritage, but being ENSAMPLES to the flock….. Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all [of you] be SUBJECT ONE TO ANOTHER, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.”

    These two verses help me to understand that this philosophy was wrong. They were not to dominate Gods flock. WE WERE ALL to be subject to each other. Which means PASTORS were to be as much in SUBJECTION to their fellow believers as BELIEVERS were to their pastors? Shepherding is by nature a pyramid structure.

    Comment by james | November 4, 2009

  23. Hi,I have been a christain for 20 plus years,however my town seems to be taken over with this authority, submission, and teachableness teaching. I have had lots of bad time with Leaders who have controled and abused their roles over me.

    Only today was I thought i had found a good church and hoped to find help in becoming a leader myself one day was spoken to with anger and agressively by a leaders and given the authority, submission, and teachableness,where’s the love of God and progressing the kingdom speach!

    I know I need healing from the past but this sort of thing doesn’t help! lol!

    You know just need God’s help and Fatherly hug and direction in my life,looks like this town isn’t the place for me to grow as it’s confining.

    Comment by Andy | November 16, 2009

  24. I could not go to sleep without commenting on this article. I stumbled upon this website, and I believe now it was the Holy Spirit who led me here. Mr. Leon, I beieve God is using you to reveal so many things in the Body of Christ that needs corecting! I can relate to this madness because I had to leave a church because of this very thing! It was too controlling! Gois even used me to warn the Pastor of his ways and the sin that was in the house. I was literally cast out and bashed from the pulpit! The Pastor never met with me concerning the word. He just cursed me indirectly and called me a religious fool from the pulpit!This truly hurt me and I am now in hte process of healing from that. I am now seeking the Lord about where to go just to fellowship. I believe in True Leadership, and I know God has a leader that Ican trust and a ministry that is following what the Word says concerning true discipleship. Please continue to pray for me and many others who are at a place of not even wanting to go back to church at all! This is not God’s will for us because fellowship with the saints is very neccessary for our faith and spiritual strength.

    Comment by A. Smith | November 17, 2009


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