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Authority to Heal The Sick and Drive Out Demons

There has been a very interesting discussion here: http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2008/12/20/is-physical-healing-in-the-atonement/ as to whether physical healing is in the atonement or not. Please feel free to join in this debate if you have not already!

I wanted to raise another question now, which although related is not the same thing – hence my starting a new thread for it.

Regardless of whether one believes physical healing this side of eternity is in the atonement or not, Jesus sent out His disciples and gave them authority to heal the sick and drive out demons on earth. This was first pre the Cross – pre the Atonement – and even pre Pentecost. The disciples had not even then been taught to ask in ”His Jesus name” then either!

I think the key as to how Jesus’ disciples were able to heal the sick and drive out demons and even raise the dead on that ‘wrong’ side of the Cross and Resurrection, and on that ’wrong’ side of Pentecost, is that they were given authority to do so by Jesus. Not authority in reclaimed dominion theology as little gods pp Kenneth Copeland talk, or even via creative Word of Faith stuff, but by Jesus sending them out and commissioning them and giving them some of His authority – that He had been given by the Father on earth.

A man who knows his commission, knows his authority, knows his job, prays for healing and expects in a very different way than someone who does not.

The modern church’s authority and the original disciple’s authority to heal and deliver – are they one and the same?   Could it be the reason the modern church fails to see significant miracles and healings in this day is  because it does not understand its authority and so does not exercise it?    Discuss!

January 4, 2009 - Posted by endtimespropheticwords | Demonology, Deliverance, Spiritual Warfare, Evangelism and Missions, Healing, Kenneth Copeland, Word of Faith, signs and wonders | , , , , , , , | 26 Comments

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  1. Unlike others, God is good all the time. He is a stronghold in the day of trouble; and He knows those who trust in Him. His power, might, love and riches are unlimited! And He told us that in Mark 9:23 “If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes.” It appears that most Christians are unbelievers in that they don’t believe in seeing or doing the impossible or what Jesus taught them!

    But the other side of the coin is that we cannot cast away our faith in God or His word in the midst of trouble or tribulation which will come just like Jesus prophesied or taught:

    Matthew 13:18 “Therefore hear the parable of the sower:
    13:19 “When anyone hears the word of the kingdom, and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is he who received seed by the wayside. 13:20 “But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; 13:21 “yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles. 13:22 “Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful. 13:23 “But he who received seed on the good ground is he who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit and produces: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.”

    Luke 22:31 And the Lord said, “Simon, Simon! Indeed, Satan has asked for you, that he may sift you as wheat. 22:32 “But I have prayed for you, that your faith should not fail; and when you have returned to Me, strengthen your brethren.” 22:33 But he said to Him, “Lord, I am ready to go with You, both to prison and to death.” 22:34 Then He said, “I tell you, Peter, the rooster shall not crow this day before you will deny three times that you know Me.”

    Comment by susan | January 4, 2009

  2. Copied from other discussion as also on theme here -

    To clarify, I agree with you on this scripture –

    “Who is he who speaks and it comes to pass,
    When the Lord has not commanded it?”

    God is boss. We cannot demand our will and way.

    BUT we also need to know if and when the Lord HAS commanded it. Hence my raising the theme of authority to heal. For that would alter drastically how people act, pray and expect.

    Peter did not just say to the crippled man at the temple gate: ‘if God wills it, rise up and walk…’ or ‘please God, heal this man’ – he said ‘in the name of Jesus, rise up and walk…’!

    He also drove out demons. He did not just pray that God would get rid of them. This all conveys his knowing his commission and authority.

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 4, 2009

  3. Yes Miriam,

    His commission as to building the house also, do you think?
    Often pastors use the scripture. that unless the Lord builds the house, they labour in vain that build it.
    And they do not bring corrections etc, becaue it is up to God to either do it, or the Holy Spirit to show them.
    I believe it is the pastor that is to do it as Paul kne how to do it.

    Comment by Paula | January 4, 2009

  4. Or rather the 5 fold doing it according to ther giftings and callings….and to bring about the maturing of the saints.
    Now I am talking about the apostles, prophets etc who have been the way of the cross, and the narrow path, the seed that HAS faklklen to the ground and wallk in the spirit and mind the things of the spirit and NOT the flesh, like the false apostles, prophets, etc are doing today.

    Comment by Paula | January 4, 2009

  5. Since this is sort of my ‘thing’, I had to jump in with a response. ;-) My answer to your question is: Yes — they are the same. The following verse of scripture is from after Jesus’ resurrection, note it says ‘the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them:

    And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.” So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God. (Mar 16:17-19 ESV)

    I think part of the reason that more don’t understand this is because of the influence of psychology, and there are some good articles on The Berean call web site about that, here are some links:

    The one below (1969)is a transcript of a radio show
    http://www.thebereancall.org/node/1969

    And this one is an article titled: Psychology and the Doctrines of Devils:
    http://www.thebereancall.org/node/2431

    Also, a good book on the topic is by Derek Prince, called ‘They Shall Expel Demons’. It’s actually this topic that pulled me out of the New Age.

    Comment by Cia Watson | January 4, 2009

  6. Paula -

    To clarify, are you saying only those members in the five fold ministry have such authority to heal and drive out demons etc?

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 4, 2009

  7. Cia Watson

    I think that passage in Mark is disputed, isn’t it, as it is not in the earliest manuscripts or something?

    Anyway, disputed or not, I personally believe it, but to discuss it – “these signs accompanying those who believe” does not necessarily mean these future believers have been given the same authority on earth as the first lot of disciples [not just the 12 but the 120] – or does it? It could just mean signs following sometimes as part of God’s sovereignty without the authority element …. which is kinda like most of the modern church, who see genuine real signs very very rarely.

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 4, 2009

  8. Therefore He who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you, does He do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?- Galatians 3:5

    It could just mean signs following sometimes as part of God’s sovereignty without the authority element …. which is kinda like most of the modern church, who see genuine real signs very very rarely. Endtimespropheticwords

    Most of the modern church sees very little genuine real sins because they are living in a wilderness of their own choosing including following men who are false prophets or not truly saved and Baptized with the Spirit.

    By the hearing of faith and believing and acting in faith God supplies the Spirit to us and works miracles among us, and not by the works of the law. We are saved, healed, delivered, justified, blessed and prospered by faith, and not by any other method and not by the foolishness of saying “God will do whatever He wants!

    And they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs. Amen. Mark 16:20

    Comment by brad | January 5, 2009

  9. I believe God heals miraculously. If there is some issue or reason that a healing doesn’t take place, God is so kind and good He will explain it or reveal what the problem is. I don’t know about people with ‘persistent sickness or like Joni Erikson Tada, persistent paralysis but I do know that there are crosses of some nature that every believer is given — “thorns” given to each of us that God does not remove for our humility.

    He promises to “subdue our inequities” and the manner in which He does this is mysterious and suited to us individually. If it is a persistent unhealed state, my only thought is what Paul said “in our weakness He is strong.” It hurts our pride or our sense of self sufficiency if we are caught in our “thorn” but deep down, we all know that it is given to us so as to protect us from pride or sin. At least, I know this about my own ‘Unhealed thorn.”

    Comment by AriseMyLove | January 5, 2009

  10. P.S. I write this with the full understanding that God did heal my sister miraculously of a cancer that none of the many esteemed doctors and nurses in our family – nor the country’s top experts — could properly diagnose. She was healed.

    Comment by AriseMyLove | January 5, 2009

  11. What about Philip the deacon/evangelist? He was not one of the original twelve nor had he been with Jesus – but he had a healing ministry.

    Comment by Javanut | January 5, 2009

  12. Miracle Healing from God through Jesus Christ today

    Supernatural Miracle Healing from God in Jesus Christ, does it still happen today

    http://www.geocities.com/holyspiritliberty/miraclehealing.html – Click

    Acts 13:38-39

    38 Let it be known to you therefore, brothers, that through this man Jesus forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you, 39 and through him every one that believes is free from everything from which you could not be free by the law of Moses.

    Supernatural Miracle Healing

    Acts 8:14-17

    14 The apostles in Jerusalem heard that the people of Samaria had received the word of God, so they sent Peter and John to them. 15 When they arrived, they prayed for the believers that they might receive the Holy Spirit. 16 For the Holy Spirit had not yet come down on any of them; they had only been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

    Welcome friends in the mighty name of Jesus Christ, may his Holy Spirit be increased in you and upon you as you read. If you are a strong believer who has never experienced the tangible power of the Holy Spirit, fear not! It happened in the early church as well. In this event discussed in Acts 8 above it is clear that these from Samaria had faith. It had nothing to do with their unbelief; it had to do with their understanding and God’s timing. Notice that in Acts 8:16 above the scripture makes it clear they believed, even to the point of being baptized in water in the name of the Lord Jesus. But even so, these mentioned in Acts 8 had not yet experienced the tangible power of God’s Holy Spirit.

    It states in Acts 8:16 that the Holy Spirit had not come upon any of them, so brothers and sisters and all visiting, if you have not yet experienced this type of touch from Jesus, fear not. Jesus’ timing is always perfect. I hope today is that perfect time Jesus has appointed for you. I hope what you read here will bless you and help you receive this Mighty and Wonderful promise from Jesus Christ.

    Some of the debates among Christians

    Many of today’s churches are debating whether or not the Holy Spirit still manifests in a tangible way like the first century Christians experienced. Before I say anything else let me say this, we must open our hearts our bibles and our intellect, most of all we must pray.

    Many that will read this already have preconceived, or preconditioned opinions. This is not a problem unless you become unwilling to read the following scriptures because of those positions. I am not trying to change anyone’s mind by my opinion, but I am trying to reveal what I have found in scripture to be sound doctrine. This of course without saying is open to anyone’s debate, but let us reason from the Word. My intention is only to bless and hopefully promote a better understanding of this Gift, called the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is also very much a person, for the scripture declares, “For Christ is that Spirit,” this means emotions, will and intellect.

    Since I can do nothing without the Lord Jesus, at least not perfectly, I pray the King of Kings would become your teacher fresh by the power of his Holy Spirit. So in his mighty name, the name of Jesus Christ, I humbly ask him for this gift with all of my heart. I praise you Lord Jesus Christ and for your grace and shed blood that makes it possible to receive.

    In answer to the question of whether or not the Holy Spirit still manifests miracles, signs and wonders are hundred percent yes. Before we go any further lets talk about those churches that teach that the Holy Spirit no longer does or manifests tangible miracles. This doctrine is called cessation. In other words ceased, or stopped.

    These teachers believe all miracles ceased after the first century church was established. Now this is the scripture they used to develop this doctrine. It is 1st Corinthians 13:8-10. In fact this is the only scripture that is used to establish this teaching of cessation. They use no other. Lets look at this scripture now.

    1st Corinthians 13:8-10

    8 Love never ends; as for prophecies they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy is imperfect, 10 but when perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away.

    Here in this scripture we see prophesies, tongues and knowledge pass away, or cease. The condition for it to cease by those that teach this doctrine based it on the portion of scripture that states: “When perfect comes.” Of course Jesus Christ coming and dying on the cross over 2,000 years ago represents this perfect. This is well and good and would be fine without debate if it were not for another statement also contained in verse 10. The other statement of verse 10 says that when perfect comes, “the imperfect shall pass away.”

    So the question one must ask is this:

    Has the imperfect of the world, such as the non-believers passed away yet? Read verse 10 again and think about it, it is obvious that when perfect comes the imperfect pass away. Since this has not yet happened this very same scripture proves that the gifts of the Holy Spirit have not yet ceased. Those that teach that they have base their doctrine on “when perfect comes” the first time. Verse 10 in this same scripture makes it very clear it is the second coming of Jesus when these gifts are no longer required, or cease. This also makes logical sense as well. Jesus said: “I will not leave you desolate, I will send you the Holy Spirit to comfort, teach etc.

    Some Bible teachers like replace the word perfect, with the word maturity. Ok let’s entertain their point of view for a moment. Let me start with a question. To teachers and pastors reading who prefer to use the word maturity rather than the word perfect, then here is my question for you.

    If we as a body are mature (the church) then why does it say in scripture our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy is imperfect. (See verse 9) Is there any person, teacher, or pastor reading today that can claim they have perfect knowledge? Is there any here today that can say they have been so perfected by the Holy Spirit, they can say they have the mind of Christ as Apostle Paul spoke about. Friends keep in mind even “IF” these teachers were correct, not all in the church has yet reached that level of maturity. Most are still are operating in the very basics of the faith.

    Since the scriptures states we are all baptized into one body and by one Spirit and since we are all members of that body, then I can only logically conclude since all in the body are NOT yet mature, then the gifts are still are in operation just as they were in the first century.

    Also the scripture states when maturity comes the imperfect shall pass away.

    Something else to consider, Jesus said flesh and blood couldn’t enter into the kingdom of heaven. That which is born of the flesh is flesh and that which is born of the spirit is spirit. With that in mind remember also what Paul taught concerning Rapture, he said, “For corruption (mortality) must put on incorruption (immortality)” speaking of our new body.

    Some teachers like to debate the neuter use of the word perfect in order to promote an argument that the word perfect as used in this context is be understood as the kingdom only, rather than as Christ Jesus himself. I would like to point out and remind these teachers according to scripture in Christ it is neither male nor female, Jew nor Greek, but one in Christ. When considering this scripture one only needs to ask these teachers one very simple question. Is Christ male or female? When you are raptured, (God willing) at Jesus Christ’s coming will you be male or female? I hope you see my point. If not I pray the Holy Spirit would instruct you in it as you ask him to become your teacher in Jesus’ precious and Wonderful name.

    Based on the scriptures considered together in their proper context I must conclude the word “perfect” is the proper usage in this scripture, and is not the word maturity or the word kingdom as some argue, but rather is Jesus Christ in the fullness of the Godhead, this of course being his Holy Spirit, which is perfectly one, which is also neither male nor female. No matter how you understand the arguments and debates surrounding the usage of the word perfect it is clear the imperfect are still among us and knowledge has not ceased. So it is clear from scripture regardless of the debates surrounding the word perfect that the gifts and the supernatural miracle power of God have not ceased.

    Based on the Word of God rightly divided it is clear all the gifts of the Holy Spirit are still in operation today and are needed more than ever in the church. To believe otherwise for me personally is to deny the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Brothers and sisters Jesus Christ never said the gifts of the Holy Spirit would cease and neither did any of his twelve disciples teach such a thing. To rightly divide the Word of God one must always take in account the teachings of Jesus and his twelve witnesses, his disciples. Lastly brothers and sisters let us not forget there are many other gifts of the Spirit that do not manifest in such obvious supernatural ways, such as teaching, encouragement, faith, giving and many other help gifts. Have these gifts of the spirit ceased as well because the church is now mature, or because perfect has already come as some teachers proclaim, of course not. Not to mention knowledge has not yet ceased has it? Remember the word “knowledge” from 1 Cor 13:8-10. If perfect has come or maturity as some teach, then why do we still have knowledge ? Here is that scripture again, notice knowledge passes away according to this scripture. When does this knowledge pass away? When perfect comes, I hope all see the logic of this point, here is the scripture.

    1st Corinthians 13:8-10

    8 Love never ends; as for prophecies they
    will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy is imperfect; 10 but when perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away.

    Lets now look at the Book of Acts

    Acts 2:38-39

    38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to him.

    Notice here the Gift of the Holy Spirit is for you and to your children and to all that are far off. Read verse 39 again. Notice it states, “and to all that are far off.” Who are those that are far off? These that are far off are those persons the Lord calls from every generation, including this one. Notice this scripture says, “Everyone whom the Lord our God calls to him. Well, the first thing a person is called of the Lord is: salvation by confession of sins and repentance of sins, so WHOEVER is called of God through Jesus Christ accepts the gift of grace provided by Jesus paying our price on the Cross. If you accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior then YOU ARE CALLED of God. If you are called of God then the promise of verse 39 applies to you, simple isn’t it?

    Now for clarity, I am not talking about a limited gift of the Holy Spirit, I am talking about the same power and presence of the Holy Spirit as is recorded in the book of Acts during the 1st century church. This includes miracle healing to your body. God still heals based on his grace and free gift, (not good works) accept God’s promise of healing in the Mighty Name of Jesus Christ.

    So what about those people that have believed in Jesus but have never felt the tangible presence of the Spirit? One reasons among many I would like to discuss is the one we just talked about. Those who have been taught that miracles have ceased are not in a position to receive from Jesus this gift. If Jesus does not correct them first, then most would become fearful when God’s power started touching them. Especially if God had to remove a bondage first before filling them with peace.

    Before I cover some of the other reasons let’s talk about some of the ways the Holy Spirit touches a person. It is almost impossible to perfectly describe how it feels when the Holy Spirit touches a person tangibly, but it is possible to give a basic foundation.

    WHEN TOUCHED FOR HEALING:

    Usually you will feel extreme heat all over your body. Then after a few minutes, most will feel a wonderful and supernatural peace from the Lord Jesus Christ. You will know when this happens, it feels so wonderful. It’s like heaven on Earth. You will know when this happens and you will have zero doubt. You will know it is the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ touching you, it is supernatural and Holy brothers and sisters.

    Sometimes you will feel a wind first, really! just, like a real wind or lightly swirling breeze, even in a completely closed room. Sometimes you will feel like a warm blanket of energy wrapped around your entire body. When this happens it is like supernatural clothing. It feels like a part of you, perfectly.

    Sometimes you will smell a heavenly Jasmine, or other wonderful fragrances. You will know this smell is heavenly and Holy when it manifests in the fullness of the Holy Spirit, if you ever smell these wonderful fragrances you are having an extra special visit from the Lord Jesus, you will know without any doubt when you smell them.

    DELIVERANCE SUPERNATURALLY

    Deliverance from demons, or bondage’s such as drugs, hearing voices, mental illness, fear, or other unpleasant things of this nature.

    When demons, or bondage’s, or generational sins are broken you will feel a trembling in your body. Fear not, that’s not you trembling but the demon, or bondage the Holy Spirit is beginning to break. Sometimes this will go on for hours, so fear not but rejoice and trust Jesus. Sometimes you’ll cry for days as well as the Lord releases your heart from pain and bitterness.

    Lack of trust is one of the other reasons many don’t feel the Power of the Holy Spirit, many Christians are afraid Jesus will not protect them from demons, or other evil powers, even though Jesus did promise to protect them and never leave them.

    Most Christians are fearful of being deceived by false prophets or teachers, this is healthy. But if you do not have the Holy Spirit teaching you, then it might not be wise to trust even yourself if the Holy Spirit is not manifesting tangible power in your life. We without Jesus’ help are our own worst enemies. This help is the tangible anointing and power of the Holy Spirit.

    Here are some of the other reasons many Christians don’t feel the power of the Holy Spirit. The biggest one is many do not understand the finished work of the Cross of Jesus. Remember, Jesus said on the Cross, “IT IS FINISHED” what did he mean? The clue, the veil in the Jewish temple was torn from one end to the other from top to bottom. This was a giant veil that even hundreds of men combined in an effort to tear it would be unable. It was torn in a nano second the moment Jesus finished his work for us on the Cross. All righteousness by the Law of Moses is finished. Not abolished, in respect to those who reject Jesus but was finished and fulfilled by Jesus on behalf of those who accept him and his gift of Salvation, this is what Jesus meant when he said “It’s Finished.” Grace was established, and forgiveness of sins by a new covenant paid for by the blood, love and power of Jesus Christ

    The Jewish temple represented the first covenant and the Law of God. The Cross and blood of Jesus paid for our sins according to the first covenant which none of us ever kept, or presently keeps perfectly. To us it is offered as a gift, based on grace.

    Grace defined: Pardon, Gift, unearned, unmerited, favor with God.

    Now my point is this, when a person accepts Jesus’ gift of salvation, this person accepts it based on Jesus’ finished work and shed blood for them at the Cross.

    No one ever gets saved by their own good merits. This is true before, during and after accepting the free gift of Salvation through Jesus Christ.

    What happens to many is they accept Jesus Christ, but sometimes some weakness, sin, or problem remains after accepting Jesus or it returns after a season of backsliding away from Jesus. This in turn makes this son, or daughter of God to feel unworthy and guilty. This unworthy attitude then produces fear, doubt, or anger, but most of all it separates them from prayer to God. They are afraid to ask God for anything, let alone the Gift of the Holy Spirit. Or they don’t pray with faith, believing God still loves them. Fear not! Jesus still loves you more than you can imagine. Do not believe the lie of the fallen ones, or even your own mind should it cause you to doubt God’s love in Jesus Christ. Jesus will never stop loving you. Jesus said, “It is Finished” He finished it for you. Do not doubt his love because of some weakness, or serious sin you keep committing. Ask him to wash it and to forgive you again, HE WILL! He will forgive regardless of how many times you may have failed, or sinned. If you got the strength to ask him again, surely Jesus Christ has the strength to listen and forgive you again. Even if it’s for the same thing over and over. Jesus said; “He, or she that is forgiven much, loveth much”. FEAR NOT, talk to him, he loves you. I mean you!

    Brothers and sisters and all, listen to me PLEASE, even if your flesh, or your mind is not yet perfected, if you accepted Jesus Christ based on his finished work and received it as a Gift, then you are forgiven and your soul is white as snow because of the blood Jesus shed for you. You Accept the Gift of the Holy Spirit exactly the same way, AS A GIFT bought and paid for by Jesus Christ. Ask, the Holy Spirit right now in the name of Jesus if this is true. Some of you are feeling the power of the Holy Spirit for the first time right now.

    The Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ, God the Father is a person. He is as much your Lord and Savior as he is your best friend, do not be overwhelmed with fear, or doubt because of your sins or weakness in the flesh. Jesus understands your pain, I don’t care how many times you failed or sinned the same sin over and over.

    Ask Jesus Christ to touch you right now with the Power of his Holy Spirit. Only Jesus Christ and his grace and power can set you free. He said come to me all you who are heavy laden and I shall give you rest. Well, a modern term for heavy laden is simply, burned out, or overwhelmed.

    The rest Jesus is talking about is not natural rest, but supernatural rest. As Jesus said and His word declares, Peace I give to you not as the world gives. Jesus said, not as the world gives. Satan is of the World that is why he uses drugs to alter a person’s state of mind and that is the best Satan can do in the peace department, false peace with drugs and addictions. Satan cannot give supernatural peace in anyway, shape, or form. Satan always uses external devices of the natural. If Satan could counterfeit Jesus’ peace, then Satan would never use drugs. Only Jesus can give Holy supernatural peace, so fear not.

    Jesus gives the peace that surpasses knowledge, full of Glory and truth and most of all Love.

    You need to also remember, Jesus sometimes makes you perfect through your weaknesses, then comes the victory. The victory comes the minute Jesus knows that you realize that your good works, or lack of good works had nothing to do with it. It is a victory based on his free gift and love for you, it is based on Jesus’ grace and his mercy, not your good works.

    Ask Jesus Christ to touch you tangibly right now with the Power of His Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ promised you that he would never give you a serpent, or an evil gift. So believe him !!! Ask the Father in the Mighty Name of Jesus Christ for the tangible in filling of his Holy Spirit.

    Ask, Seek, Knock he is standing at the door of your heart again, fear not Jesus loves you regardless of your weakness, ASK HIM !!! Remember he died so you could come without fear, he loves you and he understands.

    Sometimes God allows weakness, or some problem so you will learn to trust only his Grace, never your own good works, or your ability to keep the Law of Moses. We all fall short but Jesus Gives us more grace, that’s God’s love to you in Jesus Christ, ACCEPT IT He accepts you, let Jesus work out your weaknesses.

    QUIT TRYING to do it in your own strength, quit begging, he died for you and loves you. Why would a child of God have to BEG.

    Jesus died for all that would come to him, just as they are, no conditions, just come. This is true even for those Christians who have backslidden. Jesus says Just Come. This is true for all believers or Non-believers. Jesus Christ says, just come and I will give you rest and peace.

    This is true even for those who have argued, or cursed God during a painful trail, or the loss of a special loved one. Jesus says I know your hurting, I know your angry with me, I know it’s seems that I did not answer your prayer. But I love you, just come. Someday I will explain it all and show you everything.

    Pray like a child, not like a slave in fear. That’s what God’s Grace in Jesus Christ is all about, so you can come as a child in spite of your weakness, or sins.

    Do you smoke, or do you dress funny? Do you like to dye your hair green, or orange. Did you pierce your belly button, or your tongue?

    Jesus says just come, Jesus looks at the heart, not your looks or you’re past, or even your present sins or weaknesses in the flesh. He wants to bury your past FOREVER and show you wonders and blessings in your future with him. And Jesus wants to show you them today by his Holy Spirit. Not when you leave the planet to go home, but right now! Even right now for some of you, Ask Him !

    Holy Spirit touch them for I can do nothing by my own power without you. In the Mighty Name of Jesus Christ I ask.

    Now I would like to close with the following scriptures:

    >> Mark 9:38-39 <> Luke 11:11-19 <> Galatians 3:1-14 Galatians 5:1-6 Galatians 6:1-3 <<

    John 14:18-27 John 15:12-17

    Last but not least is love. Without Love you cannot do anything. Pride, unforgiveness, or being judgmental will also separate you from the tangible power of the Holy Spirit. It is extremely important to love the unbelievers of the world as Jesus loved us. I’ll be brief about these things, since they are so obvious. Jesus commanded us to judge not, to forgive and yes to even forgive our enemies. We were all enemies of God at some point in our life, even if you were raised a Christian. If you ever once looked down in disgust at a Non-believer, then at that moment you were Jesus’ enemy. Why, because if that person you looked at was the only person alive, Jesus would have still come and died for him, or her.

    The power of God’s grace.

    Scripture study list at bottom.

    The scriptures list located at the bottom of this page are given in a particular in order. This order will help you understand THE IMPORTANCE and THE PURPOSES of God’s Law to Moses and God’s grace through JESUS CHRIST.

    The Holy Spirit always operates through believers by Grace. This study list if read prayerfully will help all to better understand what many Christians misunderstand about God.

    Remember: God’s ultimate objective is grace to all. Don’t give up if you don’t understand at first, just remember GOD accepts and loves you just as you are.

    Holy Spirit quicken them to ask you to help them and then anoint them with your gift of wisdom and understanding for the scriptures. I ask in the name of Jesus Christ that this GIFT would be given to all who will begin reading these following scriptures. I also ask that you would touch them Holy Spirit in a tangible way that they can feel your touch so their faith could be increased. Your will be done Father God Almighty and I thank you for it all in the name of your only begotten son Jesus Christ. Thank you Father for your LOVE, your patience, your MERCY and your ABUNDANT GRACE that keeps us when we make mistakes. Holy Spirit you are their teacher teach them I pray, and most of all teach them how to WALK IN LOVE, to walk in YOUR PRESENCE by your Holy Spirit.

    Remember brother and sisters all knowledge is given for the purpose of an increasing a believers understanding so he can minister God’s Truth in love and simplicity. Not all can understand the deep things of God, but all can understand LOVE. Even your pet understands love, no words necessary.

    God can do more miracles through someone with very little knowledge with an abundance of unconditional love, than he can with someone with a lot of knowledge, but only a little love.

    Even if you have only a little knowledge but have FAITH that the Holy Spirit will do the work promised, then you could say in the name of Jesus Christ rise and be healed and whoever it was spoken to would be healed.

    The only thing that the Lord Jesus wants you to do is ask and then wait for the Holy Spirit to come upon you. Remember, it’s in Jesus’ time not ours. Jesus decides when and who and where. BUT BE SURE TO ASK !!!!

    You must know the Spirit of Jesus Christ in a very personal way. When the anointing of the Holy Spirit comes upon you for healing you will know it. You will feel a warm sometimes hot presence on your body, especially in your hands and feet. Sometimes numbness in the hands occurs as well.

    It’s like drawing on unseen resources, Holy Holy resources.

    Also you will experience an anointing upon your mouth, this is the Holy Spirit helping you to speak the word he wishes to be spoken at that moment through you. All you have to do ask the HOLY SPIRIT in the NAME of JESUS and then WAIT. If God is ready his Holy Spirit will let you know. If a warm peaceful presence of the Holy Spirit comes then pray for that person. Don’t pray for that person out loud until the Spirit comes upon you first, you can pray privately but remember the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ does the miracle, not you.

    If you pray out loud for a person before the anointing comes, then in almost all cases nothing will happen. Also most importantly Jesus Christ must receive all the credit for any miracle. The minute you take any credit for it or become self important, (PRIDEFUL) the Holy Spirit will stop working through you. LOVE, FORGIVENESS, PATIENCE, GRACE is the key to God’s Power in THE NAME OF JESUS. Knowledge can never replace sincere LOVE.

    Children, young people, any age, if you feel the presence of the Holy Spirit, then ask God in the name of Jesus to touch or heal that person you’re hoping for. If you do, you will see God’s Spirit reward your love with a miracle. Remember Jesus salvation is a gift, it is not based on a person’s good works, or the ability or lack of ability of a person to obey God. It’s about asking for his gift, a gift which none of us deserve. We all fall short daily and God understands the hearts of us all, so let him alone be judge.

    Comment by jesustheking | January 5, 2009

  13. In Matt 28, Jesus adresses his disciples and commissions them to go, preach the gospel to all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that He has commanded them.

    That last part is important, because Jesus says that His apostles had to teach others to observe the commandements He had given to them.

    While there are many commandements given by Jesus of a moral nature (love your neighbour, do good to those who hate you, pray for those who persecute you) others are of a more authoritative nature. In Matthew 10, Jesus commands and commissions His disciples to heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers and cast out demons, because freely they had received, freely they had to give!

    This is one of the commandements the disciples had to teach their followers to observe, according to Jesus. So yes, you are to heal the sick and cast out demons, just like Jesus did, the 12 did, the 70 did, the 120 did and has been done throughout the church ages (with a drop after Constantine became head of the church, but healing and deliverance has never left the church totally).

    In love,
    Fernando

    Comment by Fernando | January 5, 2009

  14. Hi Miriam – ref your comment to me (#7)about whether that passage in Mark is disputed; I wouldn’t be surprised if that is the case. However, I haven’t yet run into anything saying it is. I wouldn’t be surprised that it is, because — to quote / paraphrase something I heard from Andrew Wommack ‘Some people don’t let the Bible get in the way of their theology.’ (A case in point would be Calvinism – imo)

    Therefore, if a particular passage is troublesome to their theology, I could imagine they’d want to dispute it. I’m not saying that’s what may have happened in this particular case, just an observation, or snide remark; as the case may be. :-)

    And to the other question, I agree with Brad in #8.

    Comment by Cia Watson | January 6, 2009

  16. I too believe Mark’s disputed passage is true and Jesus’ word to those who believe. I have been studying a bit about the manuscripts through books like “I Don’t Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist” by Geisler and Turek (textual authentication section), and “The Politically Incorrect Guide To the Bible” by Robert J Hutchinson. When I read your comment in number 7 above, Miriam, at first I thought you were being cessationist. I realised however you aren’t .
    :-)

    Comment by paul | January 6, 2009

  17. ET: “Could it be the reason the modern church fails to see significant miracles and healings in this day is because it does not understand its authority and so does not exercise it?”
    *************************************

    I’ll add my 2cents here although I’m open to correction and change of mind. :)

    I think the authority to heal is given to those who will go out among unbelievers and ‘preach the gospel that the kingdom of God is near’. Miracles are given to affirm the gospel. Where there is no gospel….I doubt there is an authority to heal, cleanse or cast out demons.

    The modern church today rarely goes into the streets or to the poor and rarely understands the connection between healing and receiving Christ for the forgiveness of sins thru the gospel. The church happily supports missions to do this.

    It is important I believe to recognize that Jesus gave authority only to certain ones (how many is not the point). At the time the axe was laid to the root of the tree and Israel was soon to be destroyed. It was to that generation that God wanted to display His power that Jews would come to His Son and so be saved. That was the ulterior motive of Jesus in giving the authority to heal.

    Except for pentecostals, the church really doesn’t teach that Jesus gives authority to certain ones to heal. That is why pentecostalism has become so popular. It announces there are certain ones with the authority to heal and the crowds flock to him/her as they did in Lakeland.

    But it is also why pentecostalism has become so corrupt. Jesus said “you have freely received, freely give. Take no gold or copper for your money belts.” I believe the authority to heal is given only to those who won’t ’sell’ the gift. Jesus freely gives this authority to heal and He expects His servants to freely exercise the gift. Those who sell it, commercializes it, or uses it to enrich one’s self lose the gift to heal imho, while those who heal in order to preach the gospel are given the gift and maintain the gift.

    Paul wrote:

    “Now you are the body of Christ, and members individually. And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles? Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret?” I Cor. 12:27-30

    From this passage I take it that not all are given the authority to heal or to work miracles. Jesus grants these gifts to certain ones. Where are they? Probably out in the mission fields, in the hedges, hyways and byways preaching the gospel that the kingdom of God is near.

    I felt God grant me this authority when I went on the radio for a half hour a day to pray and preach the gospel. When He grants this authority you know it. As long as I was preaching the gospel and reaching out to the lost I had this authority. When the radio station went under and I stopped reaching out to the lost I felt the authority leave.

    I believe this authority is ready for those He deems ready to receive it freely and use it freely in connection with preaching the soon coming of the kingdom. But it will only be bestowed to those willing to go out to the lame and invite them to the supper. The time is short just like it was in the days of the apostles. God has ulterior motives to heal…it is so they might come to Christ NOW to be saved before He comes in judgment on this world as He did to Israel.

    I believe the message of the two witnesses given authority to work miracles as often as they desired is a picture of the witnessing church clothed in sackcloth to the last generation.

    Those not willing to save the lost and preach the gospel will never know this authority and that is why the modern Laodicean churches in the West have no power and no authority to heal. WE are all so comfortable in our own little worlds that failing to join God in saving the lost the gifts are not granted.

    Comment by BB | January 6, 2009

  18. Hi Miriam,

    I looked at the articles ref. the gospel of Mark — interesting info. I recently ran across a website that strongly suggests that the NT was originally written in Aramaic, not Greek. See here: http://aramaicnt.com/

    I downloaded the free e-books of the gospels a couple of months ago, and the ‘disputed’ passages of Mark are in this version, so I’ll stick with it. Someday soon I hope to get his entire printed NT.

    And BB, #17 — sometimes healing and expelling demons are one in the same act. I did a search once, and there are some passages where that was the case.

    Comment by Cia Watson | January 8, 2009

  19. Cia

    Be careful of that site. He is into bible codes among other things which raises a huge red flag.

    The ‘aramaic’ versions also tend to be gnostic ones, I think.

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 8, 2009

  20. Miriam,

    from what I’ve read of gnosticism, it wants to minimize or deny the deity of Jesus, and teaches instead that he is a ‘model’ or ‘great teacher’ but not who He really is. The translations of the gospels on this site do the opposite and reveal that Jesus is God in flesh.

    About the ‘bible codes’ — the one article I saw on the website about the codes he found in the aramaic NT does the same thing, reveals Jesus / Yeshua as Messiah. Just fyi.

    Comment by Cia Watson | January 9, 2009

  21. Cia

    I think there are different ‘brands’ of gnosticism, some more extreme than others.

    But as for the Bible codes, even if he comes out with something agreeing to scripture now, I have deep concern for the actual methodology used.

    Comment by endtimespropheticwords | January 9, 2009

  22. MT 6:19 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; 6:20 “but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. 6:21 “For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

    I found many of the false ones including Benny Hinn Todd Bentley and the Copelands say nice and wonderful things but their words and deeds are hypocritical. I.E.

    Did you know that Kenneth Copeland is a billionaire?
    Kenneth Copeland says he is a billionaire
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6050438097575008860

    COPELAND’S BILLIONAIRE NATURAL GAZ COMPANY IS OWNED AND BY EAGLE NEST CHURCH WITH HIS BROTHER IN LAW AS PASTOR AND COPELAND AS CHIEF EXECUTIVE AND THIS IS HOGWASH – BENDING AND BREAKING THE RULES OF A NONPROFIT ORGANZATION IN THE NAME OF THE LORD IS NOT WHAT TRUE MEN OF INTEGRITY DO?

    CHECK OUT THE VERY SHORT CLIPS ABOUT COPELAND http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/copelandclips

    Comment by Walter | February 14, 2009

  23. We have to be careful not to throw out the baby with the bath water just because some preachers and teachers misuse the concept of prosperity and wealth transfer!

    Jesus was very clear in His teaching that He would give to His trusting ones all the things that the gentiles seek! Well what do the gentiles or unbelievers seek today? Money, wealth, prominence, fortune, cars, boats, houses, fame, a good time, excitement to say the least! Jesus said For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. “But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.

    So what does the devil do to those who heed the words of Jesus today? Well Jesus also clearly gave us the answer:

    “Therefore hear the parable of the sower: “When anyone hears the word of the kingdom, and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is he who received seed by the wayside. “But he who received the seed on stony places, this is he who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; “yet he has no root in himself, but endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles. “Now he who received seed among the thorns is he who hears the word, and the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and he becomes unfruitful. “But he who received seed on the good ground is he who hears the word and understands it, who indeed bears fruit and produces: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.” Matthew 13:18-23

    In other words the devil steals the word, bring tribulation or persecution of the word, or causes the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches to choke the word. The jealous devil has many agenda’s including making God to be a liar and to ensure that people don’t see the words of Jesus fulfilled in their lives! Of course he is a tricky devil and the bible tells us clearly:

    Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. James 4:7

    Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. Resist him, steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same sufferings are experienced by your brotherhood in the world. But may the God of all grace, who called us to His eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after you have suffered a while, perfect, establish, strengthen, and settle you. To Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen. 1 Peter 5:8-11

    Comment by walter | February 15, 2009

  24. My contributioin is what the Lord showed me severla times in probers 3 and 4. The word of the Lord, his commands, his wisdom, hos directions are giving us more days, and are a medicin to our flesh. This alone indicates allready that servants of God should enjoy a (much) better health and a longer life then the people around us, who are in darkness and sin.

    Secondly the word of God tells us when we are really sick, to call the elders of the congregation to us, that they anoint us with oil and pray over us, and that the believing prayer will rise up the sick. And if he has done sin it will be forgiven, confess therefor your faults to one another and pray for eachother so you will receive healing.

    So is healing in the atonement? It was allready part of the old covenant, and was ministered towards the body through the words and comaands of the Lord. It is a part of the new covenenant, and is preceded by the anointing with oil, with the believing prayers of the elders, with the forgivenss of sins, and the confession of sins and the prayers for one another.

    And after all this, the sickness remains? I would see start again with the things said, and after all this the sickness remains? I would see: search for other causes, from outside, be it God who wanted his child to slow down for a season, be it an environment that is asking too much of the sick person, or that is making the sick person sick by unhealthy influences.

    But seek the Lord allways, in sickness and health, to see if we are right behind Him.
    Blessings

    Comment by Eric | March 13, 2009

  25. jesustheking – I just wanted to thank you for sharing with us. Your words blessed me greatly!

    Comment by Mom of twins | May 26, 2009

  26. Salvation is guaranteed in the atonement. Thus, if healing were also guaranteed for this life in the atonement, then if you are saved, you would be healed. You would not have to be prayed for, claim your healing, or do anything else, for the same grace that saves you would physically heal you — if healing is guaranteed in the atonement. You would not have to have, “extra faith,” or stronger faith to be healed, for it healing is guaranteed in the atonement, it would be yours once you embraced the atonement. The fact that most saved people are NOT healed ought to prove something to us.

    Comment by David | May 28, 2009


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