Laying on Hands and Impartation – Be Careful
This is such an honest, insightful, and helpful testimony, I thought I would flag it up as a new post of its own so others would not miss it. It was posted in the comments section on a related article about spiritual impartation here. Many thanks again to the poster.
“This article/testimony I can relate to intimately. I would like to share a personal story warning about the “laying on of hands.”
I was 21 years old at the time and would volunteer at a local Charismatic church working as the administrator of their website. I worked very close with the senior pastor and his wife, and an associate minister. All three people were in their late 30’s. I had known many of the people in the church for years and considered them all to be great people.
The associate minister was one of the smartest men I knew. He was handsome, had a gorgeous wife, was extremely disciplined, and earned a doctorate degree from a prestigious university. Basically, he was everything I wanted to be and I considered him a friend and mentor. At the time he seemed almost like a Daniel or Joseph of the Bible.
One day, he “laid hands” upon me, and I wanted him to “impart” the blessings that he had on his life to me. He did, and said a heartfelt prayer that went something like “God, I am nothing, but whatever blessings I have transfer them to this young man, if it be your will,” and a few other things. I was emotionally moved and thankful for the prayer, being that I never really had anyone do that for me before.
A week or so after this “laying of hands” and “impartation,” I began to have this intense almost uncontrollable lust and desire for the senior pastor’s wife who I worked with. Mind you, I was 21 and this woman was in her late 30’s and had 4 children. She was not physically attractive and had never been to me until that time. But for some strange reason she was now the most beautiful creature on the planet to me. She was Eve in the Garden of Eden and seemed literally perfect in every way. Every time I saw her I wanted to hold her. I would have elaborate fantasies of how the senior pastor would die in a plane crash during an overseas mission trip, and I would ride in light a knight in shining armor, marry his wife and we would live happily ever after. I would image that we were perfect soul mates and that there was and would never be any other woman that could equal her perfect beauty. At the time I felt I was competently in love with her. I tried very hard to keep the fantasies “holy” and not let them turn sexual.
Naturally I struggled greatly with this lust and went through intense mental anguish because I respected and admired the senior pastor and his family and could not bear the fact I was having these sinful thoughts. I prayed fervently but did not know what to do since the lust for this woman was consuming my thoughts.
I decided to go in private to one of the elders of the congregation, an elderly man who was known for having a prophetic gift. I told him about my lust, hiding who it was for, and asked him for prayer. He prayed and told me he saw my intense lust came from me allowing a man who was caught in sin and lust to lay hands on me. He prayed for me, and we prayed together and the lust instantly stopped.
I was relieved and overjoyed that I was finally free. And very glad to find out this lust did not stem from a psychological flaw or some Freudian desire for older, married, physically unattractive women. From that moment the desire was gone and it never returned. The funny thing is, at the time, I could not figure out who the sinful or lustful person was who laid hands on me. I figured the elder had been able to use his spiritual maturity to help free me, but he had “missed it” regarding his prophetic discernment of the cause. I’ll explain why I thought that.
The associate minister who “laid hands” and “imparted” into me, as I mentioned before, was beloved by everyone and on the surface was the perfect Christian. Everyone admired him, greatly including me. When the elder gave me his analysis, it didn’t even enter my mind to link the lust to the associate minister.
About 6 months after this event, the associate minister moved out of town with his wife to start their own congregation. 3 months after they left, the wife discovered some unsavory things about this man, filed for divorce, and he ended up losing his ministerial credentials. I’ll explain further.
The wife of the associate minister subsequently returned to the church and revealed to the leadership what she had discovered about her husband. Her greatly admired “perfect” husband had been having multiple affairs, was addicted to pornography and prostitutes, and had spent thousands of dollars at strip clubs over the years. He was able to conceal his behavior because he had private bank accounts, owned his own business, and would take frequent “business” trips. To put it mildly, everyone was shocked. When the associate minister was confronted by the leadership, he confessed it was true, lost his credentials, and went into a rehabilitation program.
It was not until all this information came to light that I realized what the elder had discerned was actually true. The associate minister transferred his lust directly to me when he did the “laying of hands.” The very same week he placed his hands on me and “imparted” his “blessings” I mentally suffered until it was removed through prayer. I was embarrassed that I did not make the connection until then.
This is just to share my personal experience with “laying on hands” and “impartation.” Be careful.”
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Great article! When all these guys like Todd Bentley lay hands and say Wreck Him G_d little do they know the command holds some weight. Can the mixture of Todd Bentley and others be transferred to you? Yes it can, I know because Todd is the only person that has ever laid hands upon me and the course of my life changed dramatically over the following 2 years.
About 20 years ago, I was in college and frequented a local weekly prayer group. During one session, four or five of the group layed hands on me and prayed over me. Within a short amount of time, about a day or so, I suddenly found myself struggling with intense bursts of anger. It turns out one of these people had a history of anger issues, and he ended up ’sharing’.
I’ve never let anyone lay hands on me since that incident. It was an informative event though. Up until then, I’ve always considered the laying of hands more or less an symbolic event. I learned the hard way that it is far more serious.
Pastor Jim Feeney http://www.jimfeeney.org/ has a great article against praise and dance in the church at http://www.jimfeeney.org/dancingasworship.html
And against “Slain In the Spirit” , Holy Laughter, “Falling Out”, SPIRITUAL DRUNKENNESS: at http://www.jimfeeney.org/fallingoutslaininSpirit.html
IN OTHER WORDS MOST OF THE THINGS THAT ARE DONE BY THE DECEIVED ONES IN THE THIRD WAVE AND REVIVAL ALLIANCE ARE NOT SCRIPTURAL BUT ARE DONE IN THE FLESH OR ARE FROM DEMONS!
I also believe it can work the other way, so the ‘minister’ may get something from the person he/she is ministering to.
I remember one time when I was in YWAM years ago, laying on hands [without discernment, it was an automatic and over-used and under-respected thing when in YWAM as a group thing - more frequent than a group hug!] on a Brazilian lady we were working with as a translator. She had been recommended by the pastor we were working with, and at that time I trusted other Christians practically without question, and assumed a lot, and took other peoples words for it that anyone who was recommended were OK and had been checked out before. Although to be fair there was something not quite right there with her I thought when I worked with the lady – there was not the spiritual bond of fellowship I usually automatically sense with other Christians, something not quite right – but I ignored it/thought I must be wrong.
Anyway, we were all praying for her to bless her, and I went to touch her, and I right away felt some “thing” spiritual shooting up within my own arm from her – the same arm that was touching her. A bit like electricity but it was not in a good way. I quickly backed away from her shocked by it as I was not expecting it and had never gotten such a thing before when laying on hands, looking at the others’ faces [there were about several others in my team also laying on their hands] to see if they too had gotten anything – but no, they did not seem to have, or did not react if they did. I stepped back and prayed watching on.
I prayed and asked God about it over the next few days/weeks as it obviously concerned me, and watched the lady carefully from then on as I believed that the lady was an undercover witch sent to undermine the work – there was a lot of witchcraft in that country including within the bounds of the actual church. I said nothing to nobody though. But that was my conclusion then.
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There was also another experience I had after a night of praise, prayer and evangelism – again with YWAM. This was 20 ago, so my memory is a bit rusty as to all that had happened that night – but looking back on it, I think I may well have laid hands on a stranger in the street to pray for them and bless them and got something from it in return. I loved evangelism, and usually came back really happy and joyful, regardless of the fruit, but this night I came back and suddently felt really heavy and sad, and there was absolutely no reason for it at all. I was really not myself and it was not linked with anything and was like a cloud that had come on sudden. It was a spiritual thing that had come upon me somehow, suddenly. Though I had little to no discernment then, and no knowledge at all of such things, I asked the leader to pray for me to get rid of “the feeling”, and something demonic then manifested.
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I have since repented and asked God’s forgiveness for being so undiscerning and rash in laying on hands – then and at other times. And for allowing others I should not have to lay their hands on me.
Guys like Jeff Jansen and also Bentley testify that impartation birthed there ministry. They sat under meetings and grabbed impartations of just about any speaker that claimed to have anointings and gifts. There are people today that have follwed a man for over 5 years going to there meetings to recieve impartations. Bentley referred to this as Elisha going after Elijah.
To really want not only the anointing of Bentley but his gifts and the favour that will birth a global ministry in a fast period could be obtained if you got hungry enough. There was a indian lady I saw in Canada who was such one. She had been boarding planes all over the place to go to Bentley’s meetings. From the United States, I saw her Abbotsford where she had came via Toronto in which Todd done a school at TACF.
How much impartation does one need? Its a cult! They love to lay hands on you like Shaman’s.
Why do we need anyone to lay hands on us. Can’t God minister to us directly? In the day and age we live, I think we would be better off to do our own praying.
without discernment, it was an automatic and over-used and under-respected thing when in YWAM as a group thing – more frequent than a group hug!]
Henry Schmidt – Dean of FMM’s Supernatural Training Centre
I witnessed this man run up to people standing about minding there own buisness and laying hands on them. The youth appeared to love him. I found it strange that before sessions the youth were hanging around the auditorium laying hands on each other over and over again. There was such an emphasis on manfestations and you could feel elitism all over them.
No safety in churches…better to stay home these days.
Maybe we’d be safer at catholic bingo or methodist potluck…at least we’d know ‘what we’re getting’?
Avshalom
I am interested in how the course of your life changed after letting Todd Bentley lay hands on you…
The admonition from the scriptures is to be slow to lay hands on anyone. So many who claim Christ display utter disregard for the foundational truths of the Word. I do not believe that “impartation” as it is used, practiced and taught today is biblical. Jesus did not teach the disciples and apostles to have impartation meetings and “practice the anointing” by laying hands on each other. I have watched wave after wave of incorrect teaching come through the body of Christ for thirty years now. May we increase in discernment so that we will not be deceived by seducing spirits. May we be vigilent and all the more as the day approaches.
I commented on the similar article, but I know that I have had too numerous to count instances of persons laying hands on me. Growing up in a particular church, I rarely went to altar calls and thus rarely had hands laid on me. And by ‘hands laid on’- I assume that we all mean the same thing, where someone places there hand upon your head or chest. The minister there specifically prayed for youth and children a couple times of year where he would lay hands on our heads and I think most of us were fine- fewer issues because of it of any. However upon moving to the west and joining up with a church there, I was frequently laid hands upon- my head and my chest, belly too and sometimes gripped at the shoulders. The chest thing was strange to me whenever it occurred- the minister, an elderly woman was shorter than myself and I assumed it was because of her height. But the need to go to her was frequent- sometimes weekly and most time she would lightly lay hands on my chest- but one result it seems was that I began to despair of my own ability to pray and I had an increasing and abiding sadness too and strange desires- never acted upon but present. I had always believed that the caution from scripture was for me to not lay hands upon someone else and I followed well that advice because I never had ministry aspirations and thus not prone to it. I have occasionally prayed with coworkers but I hold their hands or touch their forearm. But I can’t say I’ve stopped too many from laying hands on me- especially at this church and I also answered more appeals to go to the altar while attending that church than in all my other combined time outside of it. I went because I often felt like I couldn’t get my own prayers to work and that I wasn’t spiritual enough so down I would trot to their altar for the altar workers, ministers, leaders to lay hands on me and I blindly yielded often without thinking to whatever they said- just checking in with a ‘yes’ whenever they said ‘bless’. In fact my attitude was I’m gonna let them pray for me and my prob or whatever so they and God can get it fixed for me. Strange because I believed upon Jesus as a child and had a strong faith then too.
I already said it but I’m glad to hear of this. I know that Cindy jacobs, Chuck Pierce and others that are mentioned on this blog were also special speakers on occasion to this church. Because my childhood pastor changed his theology and was frequently denounced to me by the leaders, I assumed that whatever they preached, prayed, promoted, invited to speak was the real deal because of my shame and disappointment in my home church. But the home church with their new theologies did not ‘damage’ my faith, my spirit in the way that this new church did. I’m smelling the coffee now- and I want to think critically about these experiences. but I still desire to be free-free-free from their influence, impartation, control, manipulation, judgements, false anything and everything. Even as I type it I want to be free from nostalgia regarding them too that would say it ‘wasn’t all bad’.
As usual, I’ll chime in with a more scientific/skeptical viewpoint to respectfully consider.
Is it possible that these people just had moments of lust, pain, anger, on their own, without having to blame demons, curses or mischievous spirits?
Isn’t it just a bit too easy to blame something else instead of our own petty human frailty?
There is also the question of the placebo effect from expectation – i.e., if you believe you’re effected by something (be it a sugar pill or an imagined hex) your psychology and even physiology can be effected by what is essentially just a belief.
If you believe that was water was alcohol, you may tend to slur your speech and stagger around, for example.
I found this article very interesting and spiritually helpful.
I must admit I have almost written off this site as a “christian bash” site – but not all is bad.
MRFUN
Of course people can have moments of temptation or troubles without demons being involved – but that is NOT what we are actually saying here.
Re placebo affect, that is not applicable here in these instances because -
a) people only thought they would get something good and holy and yet the opposite manifested – it was only in retrospect they found is bad [that is the opposite of placebo, if it were placebo they'd have had good manifested]
b] real demons manifested upon examination
Use discernment when praying over a person..in my church, only the elders and pastors places their hands over a person as they pray..I personally don’t like anyone laying hands on me..rather over me, allowing the Holy Spirit to do His work..thanks for this posting.
Been through that.
One scripture that I love….
Lay Hands Suddenly on NO MAN!!!!! you know the rest, and that works both ways
I agree with the fact that it works the other way as well.
I heard a story of a guy who was doing deliverence by laying on of hands in Nigeria.
He felt something like a snake enter his hand from the person being prayed for, he called the person back, laid hands on them and commanded the ‘thing’ to go back, which it did !
So for all of us who have had hands laid on us a bajillion times, how do we get free? I know I’m messed up by this – a lot of “impartations” and I understand the person who said they could hardly pray.
Ask God to forgive and cleanse you, and repent of it. Depending on what is manifesting within you, you might want to seek someone else to pray for you – but not lay their hands on you while doing so.
I can say that one of the assosciate pastors laid hands on me and the entire evangelism department wich I was apart of and that is when all of the negetivaty started breaking out in my life b/c of INTENSE sexual desire, coupled with the weekly soaking meetings. I never connected it before but he was “Disiplined” for having ongoing sexual relationships with women under his pastorial care. He had actually come on to me but I never saw it as a come on until all of the mis-doing were uncovered about him. He was beloved by all.
Also befor this I had some experience with a friend who call for pray to be delivered from some mental torment issues. My prayer life and study time was pretty solid and so I didnt really think much off it until that evening. I rebuked it is Jesus name and didnt experience that thing again.
Hey Miriam, et. al,
Could somebody direct me to some scriptures regarding this situation? I would like to understand why you believe that that people can impart these things onto Christians by the laying of hands—-I’m just not really familiar with this.
Also, I have been taught that the command not to “lay hands on[someone]suddenly” had to do with ordaining them into ministry, rather than for healing or prayer—-have I been misled?
I am one of those people who is really bothered by meetings where Christians are guilted into touching and being touched by whoever will. There have been people about whom I’ve had discernment, but I had to feel like a big mean jerk until the Lord revealed them to everyone else. So, I can kinda see how these situations can be problematic, but I really want to be firmly rooted in scripture as to what goes on, and why.
How are we to know whom to lay hands on and allow to lay hands on us? The Lord must have provided scripture for this. He wouldn’t allow me to wander into danger unaware. Could someone help me out? I’d really appreciate it! Thanks.
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You cannot “impart” a demon to anyone or get “infected” with a demon UNLESS you are in agreement with that person who you are praying with or praying for. Demons ONLY act upon AGREEMENT. A Stronghold is a set of lies; you believe a lie or an argument that does not line up with the Word and you invite demons. A demon only finds a resting place in our souls when we entertain thoughts that invite them. If we have sexual thoughts after coming into agreement with a pastor who is in lust himself, it is up to us to “make every thought captive” and deny our fleshy sinful thinking. Teaching that you can get ‘infected” by the act of laying on of hands, rather than the real issue of the prayer agreement — is not sound Biblically. Reduce that ridiculous argument and you will find yourself blaming the Devil for your own sin — one of the hallmarks of the NAR liars like Bob Jones who dismissed his actual Baal worship (prophesying while molesting women) that it was just a “demon of lust” on him… In other words you are saying (as Jones did): the “Devil Made Me Do It”. And Jesus warns us that the devil did NOT make us do it — it is our own sin nature that we must war against with the Word and the Truth. This is the true meaning of “wrestling against principalities” btw. It is always a matter of what we actually believe that counts. If we don’t believe God at His word, guess what? We are in unbelief and unbelief is the root of every sin. Think about it. But back to the question at hand. If someone went to Lakeland, for example, and did not “test the spirits” there or discern them, and they allowed Bentley to lay hands on them — and came into agreement with whatever idiotic or demonic prayer Bentley said over them — that means they came into AGREEMENT with the prayer and overlooked Bentley’s major AntiChrist issues. And specifically for the impartations of a sexual nature, remember what Jesus warned… Jezebel who calls herself a prophetess, leads God’s people into sexual immorality and teaches them the worship of idols. This is why discernment as to who and what a teacher or “prophet” is all about is essential before you submit to any “prayer line” or “blessing” or gathering of prayer. The Enemy is looking for you to come into agreement with anything that “resists the knowledge of God” so he has a legal right to come at you. This is all related to that scripture in Proverbs: “do not go surety for a stranger”… meaning do not pledge any oath as to the character of someone you do not know. Praying with someone you do not know well is “going surety for a stranger”. A prayer is an agreement in the Spirit. A prayer is an oath sworn in Heaven. The Lord meant it when He said in His word: “Do not lay hands on anyone hastily.”
I do not agree with Anon22.
As people are not in ‘agreement’ to get seduced or led away – especially in the beginning – or willingly get any bad or pervy stuff imparted to them – for who would be, unless really bad and corrupt?! BUT they are in agreement in accepting the fire/manifestation/anointing/spirit that they think is GOD but which is not. They want what the other has got and it is not what they thought – but they get it as they ask it and open to it. They just do not keep within the proctective biblical boundaries of testing the spirits or the ministers.
Nobody is saying “the devil made me do it” though. Nobody is saying the man is not still accountable for his sin. Nobody is saying you should not take your thoughts captive. But that all said, some people can have a “hell of a time” of it constantly battling with something when they can instantly be freed. As it is also true that there can be demonic oppression or affliction through impartations making it hard for folk in their walk. Discerning between normal temptation/behaviour and the demonic as described is where discernment comes to play and is needed.
Usefull stuff here, because I am not all that familiar with this laying on of hands stuff and praying for other people in certain ways.IN my church there are issues with this in the fact that it isn’t made clear very well, I found out through an incident at house group, the leaders had a friend who wanted to layhands and pray for me I do not know him, but as the leaders were known to me and I trust them, I thought it was ok, the Elder who hosts the house group and leads on the sidelines with his wife thought otherwise. lack of communication again!
At my landlady’s church they had some mintery team ( Took the bible’s principles on this and taught it) to help teach this laying on of hands and spiritual assosiation through sex and in this case laying hands on people. They did a demo with marmite and peanut butter. So yes you can get rubbish imparted on you from another person, wether it is through premarital sex or laying hands on someone. And if you don’t deal with it, it get’s passed down to the next generation, as I found out, and had to released from that.
@Sylvia, you can read about it in 1 Timothy 5:22.
I am familiar with 1Timothy5:22, but I understand it differently. I think Paul was instructing Timothy not to “lay hands” on someone, in terms of the “laying of hands” to ordain or commission a man into the ministry. To do that is to bear considerable responsibility for giving an immature or sinful person power and authority.
The recent Lakeland revival scenario is a perfect example. Is much as we were all disgusted with Todd Bentley for being a cad, we were at least as, if not far more disgusted at the people who laid hands on him—those who commissioned him and tried to prop him up in spite some glaring problems that they couldn’t be bothered with at the time. These other people were partakers of his sin because the gave a troubled wicked man power cause trouble on a greater scale and perhaps even opened him up to greater judgment by making him a minister. They did not keep themselves pure, but rather chose to take a risk (on safety of their flocks!)by commissioning a man who they thought could benefit their ministries.
I think this fits better into the context. The idea that if a man comes to a church sick, he should be vetted before hands are laid so that nobody catches his sin doesn’t seem to jive with the rest of scripture.
I am willing to accept that, something evil can be imparted by the hand layer to the hand layee who, being deceived, is open to what the false teacher is imparting, however I would really like to understand from scripture exactly what this is, and how deep it goes etc. I don’t think the 1st Timothy verse is speaking on this issue.
@Sylvia, I think this scripture is speaking of ’sin’ so you won’t be part of that. You are right that there is not a clear part of scripture about transfering a spirit. But maybe it can happen… But if blessings can be given by laying hands on someone, than maybe curses can be given too…
Ruitje,
I think you are right that evil things can be imparted by the laying of hands.
The 1Timothy verse, however, is instructing us not to lay hands hastily—-not to avoid having hands laid upon us. I think there is a really big difference. When we have hands laid upon up us, we are allowing the person laying hands to impart whatever he is imparting. When we lay hands on others, we are calling upon the Lord to give them something.
In practical terms, it would be AOK for me to decline to have a preacher lay hands on me if I had a bad feeling about him. But should a preacher decline to lay hands on a sick church member because he has a bad feeling about him? I think that would be wrong. The elders are commanded to lay hands on the sick. Sin is not spread by touch. A man is defiled by what is inside him.
I’m still pretty convinced that 1Timothy5:22 is about laying hands for commissioning. Paul is talking to a young pastor about how to shepherd his flock. I as I demonstrated, when a man is commissioned in the fashion of Todd Bentley, the people involved in his ordination DO take part in his sins. They actually play a part in his sin. I don’t believe you can say this if the verse was referring to the laying of hands for prayer and healing. The verse did not say “be tormented by the same temptations” or “be a victim of his evil deeds”. The verse said “…be a partaker of the other man’s sins”.
Jesus and his disciples did not seam to fear laying hands on other people for healing and prayer. That’s why I think it makes the most sense to understand the 1Timothy5 to be “laying hands” in the sense specific to Timothy’s calling.
Blessings
How can we go into a church without someone touching us?
justavoice
This is not about just touch, it is about actual impartation via the laying on of hands as a ‘ritual’.
I came back to this discussion- hearing Sylvia, what she says makes sense too.
My name is minister Michael Dillard,Im 54 years old and will be 55 this year.There use to be a few books that talked about the transfering of spirits but I am unable to find them now.If anyone know of any books, please fell free to e-mail me at my e-mail address, dillard_michael@hotmail.com I gave my life to christ in 1985 and has been living for him since.I have read a few of these articals and I also have had a few bad experience with people laying hands on me early in my walk with god and a few years ago.I was also young in the lord and didn’t know what I know now. One time a pastor of a church that my family and I attended laid hands on me and I became sick within seconds. I was like, what’s happening to me. I could feel something coming over my body. I also had another minister lay hand on me and I was attacked in my mind for about 3 days, nothing but confusion. Many people believe that because you have the Holy Spirit in you, the Holy Spirit will protect you, but I have found this answer to not be always true.I have also asked other people if they ever went through anything as I did and many of them told me yes.In the book of Matthew and in the book acts, it talks about false prophets as also being sorcerers. The word false-5571- has a large meaning, from the word Study Dictionary,synonym meaning, illegitimate, suprious, artificial, fictitious, plastic, false, guileful, deceitful, guileful, .The word prophet also has a large meaning also, False teacher, preacher.Many people quote scriptures but don’t know what they mean.These messagess have made me want to take a deeper walk with god because I don’t want to be like many ministers with sin in my life and laying hands on people.I don’t let but a couple of people lay hands on me and soon, I will stop that.I remember one time a lady came in my store and she walked around the store so fast that I couldn’t see her face clearly, even though she was only a few feet away from me. She ask me 3 questions, 1-How did I know I was saved, 2-What did I think about marriage, 3-What was my faith. I answered all three questions and she said I did well. Then the big question came and she said, If she could tell me things only god knew, would I believe she was sent from god and I told her no! I gave her my reason and she became angry.Even if she didn;t get angry, I wasn’t going to let her lay hand on me anyway because of some things I had gone through in the past. She told me that she wanted to lay hands on me and I told her no! The she said if I would allow her to just put her finger tip on my forehead and I told her no again. I was talking to a few people about this topic and they did have a different view.They believed that if that really happen then why don’t you receive an unclean spirit when you hug an unsaved person and I told them because they are not laying hands on you.I remember another time I went to this church and there was a man going around huging all the men, there was something in my spirit that troubled me, why didn’t he hug any of the woman in the church, he would just go right buy them. He went from roll to roll doing this. Finally he came to me and I just stared him in the face and he went away. We need to be careful when we quote scripture like Romans 11-29, because what we have been told about this scripture is not true.I remember another time this young lady wanted me to hug her but I could feel lust coming from her and she wanted affection, I told her no. she kept asking me over and over, come on, give me a hug. Many christians are not sensitive to the spirit of god. God does not want his people in sin and think that you can operate in the Holy Ghost at the same time.