Randy and Paula White’s Without Walls Stunning Reversal of Fortune
Article by John Barr, ESPN, April 17th 2009
“TAMPA, Fla. — Bishop Randy White and his wife, pastor Paula White, once headed up one of the fastest growing Christian congregations in the country. In its heyday, Without Walls International Church boasted more than 23,000 members, took in as much as $40 million a year in donations and attracted dozens of professional athletes to its high-energy services.
Some of the athletes were so moved by the Whites’ message of prosperity through faith that they donated hundreds of thousands of dollars — one former player even donated a World Series ring — and showered the couple with lavish gifts, such as designer shoes and expensive suits.
In the decade leading up to 2007, the Whites amassed wealth and attained a lifestyle not unlike the star athletes who came to their church. In July 2005, the couple purchased a luxury condominium in New York City’s Trump Park Avenue building for $3.5 million. In 2006, they bought a home on Tampa’s exclusive Bayshore Boulevard for $2.1 million, according to real estate records. Randy White owns or leases several luxury vehicles, including a 2006 Bentley, according to Florida motor vehicle records. For years, the couple had access to private jets, either leased or owned by their ministry.
Major League Baseball players Gary Sheffield, Darryl Strawberry and Carl Everett and NFL players Michael Pittman, Hardy Nickerson and Derrick Brooks were among those who attended services at a converted Canada Dry plant in Tampa, Fla., a short drive from the Buccaneers’ Raymond James stadium, according to Randy White.
Today, however, most of the big-name athletes are absent from the reserved front-row seats they once occupied as VIP members, and in recent years the church itself has undergone significant upheaval. The Whites divorced in 2007 after 18 years of marriage. Without Walls, according to several former staffers, is mired in debt and bleeding membership. The church recently staved off foreclosure proceedings, and has been the subject of a Senate investigation into its finances. Church leaders have had to contend with the resulting media scrutiny.
It’s a stunning reversal of fortune for a house of worship that was built on the prosperity gospel message — a controversial evangelical Christian doctrine that teaches members that through tithing, the practice of donating 10 percent of one’s income to the church, they’ll be rewarded, not just spiritually but financially.
“If you’re the guy flipping hamburgers or you’re the quarterback, I don’t care who you may be,” White said, “we teach that you have to tithe.”
Several former Without Walls members and staffers, some of them professional athletes, have spoken out against White’s prosperity message, calling it the “gospel of greed” and questioning whether their flamboyant former pastor targeted athletes and used church donations to bankroll what one former staffer called a “rock star” lifestyle.
“A lot of guys are brainwashed,” a former NFL player, who once attended Without Walls, told ESPN on the condition of anonymity. “They’ve been told to honor God, you’ve got to give.”
White insists every church member, himself included, must abide by what he considers the bedrock biblical principle of tithing. And despite being faced with a Senate inquiry, the evangelist who built his ministry with the help of star athletes said he and the church have done nothing wrong and have nothing to hide.
“I think people feel like you get up to preach for gain,” White said, referring to his wealthy lifestyle. “If I were in the ministry for gain I could make a lot more money outside of the ministry.” [endtimes comment - yeah right! Doing what?]
Faith off the field
Under a spiked crop of blond hair, White, 51, hardly looks the part of an austere preacher. He’s fully aware his appearance and lifestyle break the mold, and he chuckles that he’s “not Billy Graham, for sure.”
White arrived for a recent interview with ESPN before a Thursday night service wearing jeans and a pinstriped jacket over a T-shirt. A beefy bodyguard escorted him from his Mercedes sedan to a private side entrance, then paused to frisk a member of the ESPN camera crew.
White entered the church’s VIP waiting room, which is covered with pictures of celebrities, including past and present professional athletes. There’s also a photo of Kid Rock and Pamela Anderson.
“I married them,” White said. “I don’t care how high-profile they may be, how much money they make, at the end of the day, people are people.”
But one former church staffer, who was in position to know the large amounts professional athletes donated to the church, said much of the attention White gave to athletes was motivated by money.
Major leaguers Everett and Sheffield gave donation checks as large as $100,000, according to the former employee. Michael Pittman, then a running back with the Arizona Cardinals, and Anthony Telford, a pitcher who played nine seasons in the majors, made donations in the tens of thousands, the former employee said.
“It made a big impact,” the former employee said, “because they were large donations. … “The athletes really helped to carry the church.”
Hector Gomez, an associate pastor who left Without Walls in 2000 after seven years, said the athletes were “almost lured to there.”
“The more athletes that come to the church,” Gomez said, “the more notoriety [the Whites] get.”
White said he “made a lot of mistakes” in the early years of “ministering to [his] athletes,” and has since learned from those mistakes.
“I felt I exploited them,” he said. “Looking back, I know that I did.”
In the early to mid-1990s, White said, he frequently placed the professional athletes in his church on a pedestal, parading them for the benefit of starstruck members. Athletes were given the option of preferential parking, preferred front-row seating and private time with the Whites, something that became increasingly rare for regular church members as the Whites’ collective star rose in the world of Christian televangelism.
“I found out later that they get so much exposure anyway in the community and normal society that when they come to church they certainly don’t want to be highlighted,” White said.
White said he wouldn’t have been able to purchase his current church property had it not been for sizeable donations by athletes, including former Tampa Bay Buccaneers linebacker Hardy Nickerson, who declined to comment for this story, and four-time heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield, whose donations to prosperity gospel ministries, like the World Changers Church he regularly attends near Atlanta, run into the millions.
“The last thing I want to do is when they’re coming here is say, ‘Hey, can you give me a check for $10,000? How about a check for $20,000?’ To this day, I don’t think I’ve ever asked an athlete for money,” White said of his relationship with the athletes who attended his church.
When told of White’s comment, the former employee with knowledge of athletes’ donations called White “a b**** liar.”
“Whenever he was talking about money or even with the tithes and offering, they targeted the athletes, because they were sitting right up front,” the former employee said.
“[Randy White] would look at them directly, let’s say for instance, Gary [Sheffield], and he would say, ‘Gary, how do spell million? Let me spell million for you.‘ To me that, that’s coming out right and saying, ‘Hey, you need to write a million-dollar check to the church,’” the former employee said.
White has partnered with past and present athletes in his church on a number of charitable causes. He said he is close to starting One Less Inc., a charity designed to fight childhood poverty that includes Sheffield on its board of directors, according to paperwork filed with the Florida Secretary of State.
Sheffield declined to comment for this story.
Several former church staffers said the Whites would frequently ask for multiple donations during the same service.
“Sometimes the offering plate is passed three, four or five times,” said Gomez, the former Without Walls associate pastor. “And that’s wrong.”
You reap what you sow
White’s flair for the dramatic might never have been more on display than the night in 2003 when Darryl Strawberry sent murmurs through the congregation by placing his World Series ring in an offering plate.
“He was laying his fame and his trophies down so that people recognized humanity in his life and his struggles,” White said, recalling the moment.
A former staffer, who was in attendance that night, said Strawberry’s unique donation came during what was known as a “love offering,” a period of giving over and above the normal practice of tithing.
“People would run up and throw jewelry in an offering plate or throw it on the platform,” the former employee said.
According to three former Without Walls staffers, all of whom were in attendance that night, when Strawberry donated his World Series ring to the church, Randy White made a surprising announcement. In exchange for the ring, White told the congregation, Strawberry and his wife would be permitted to live in the White’s home in Lutz, Fla.
The grand gesture was seen by many members of the congregation as the ultimate validation of White’s prosperity message, according to a former church staffer.
“[Strawberry] had his own demons he’s fighting with the drug addiction and … I wanted to pull him away so he didn’t have that financial pressure,” White said of his decision to provide Strawberry housing for nearly two years.
In the summer of 2005, the arrangement abruptly ended. The Whites filed what is known under Florida law as an action for ejectment against Strawberry and his wife in Hillsboro County Civil Court.
“The Whites took the position that the Strawberrys were unlawfully on their property,” said David Stamps, an attorney who represented the Strawberrys at the time. Stamps declined to comment on what led the Whites to ask the Strawberrys to leave their home.
White would say only that Strawberry failed in his efforts to resolve his marital differences.
Strawberry did not respond to repeated requests by ESPN for an interview.
When news of the White’s court action against the Strawberrys filtered back to the congregation, many who had been so energized by Strawberry’s donation and White’s reciprocal gesture felt disillusioned.
“When you see stuff like that happen it becomes like a balloon deflating, you know?” said a former church staffer. “Not real, phony.”
Ministry money
In November 2007, Iowa Sen. Charles Grassley, the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, had become concerned enough about possible corruption in prosperity gospel ministries that he sent a letter to Randy and Paula White and five other ministers requesting full financial records. What Grassley is interested in finding out is whether the ministers personally benefitted from their nonprofits.
As a nonprofit, Without Walls is not obligated to report donations to the Internal Revenue Service. Grassley, leery of the lifestyles of ministers like the Whites, is seeking accountability.White has provided some, but not all, of the financial records sought by Senate investigators.
“Committee staff is continuing to explore all legal options to get the information they’ve requested,” said Theresa Pattara, a Finance Committee tax lawyer.
In recent months, Without Walls has endured a string of negative press.
Camillo Gargano, a church accountant who worked for 17 months at Without Walls before resigning in August, was asked to use church funds to pay Randy White’s personal credit card, according to a report first published in the Tampa Tribune.
Gargano, who did not respond to ESPN’s request for an interview, said the ministry was in “turmoil,” in his letter of resignation, according to the newspaper report.
Despite being faced with a Senate inquiry and allegations of financial improprieties, White — the evangelist who built his ministry with the help of star athletes — is undeterred.
“We have nothing to hide. Zero,” White said. “I feel very confident in the fact that nothing has been done wrong.”
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I hope that Senator Grassley will be used by God as a tool to mop up all those properity pulpit pimps. That he will be able to strip off all the money which all these people got from the believers by presenting them a false, me-first gospel. It is really disgusting that those people are abusing the precious Word of God for their own personal gain and agendas. Where is the message of humility, picking up your cross and following Jesus??? Where is it, people of the multi-million dollar ‘christian’ tv business??? And by the way, do you really, really care about our brothers and sisters over the world who are starving to death because of lack of food, medical care, lack of education etc…. You will not improve anything for the purpose of the gospel of Jesus Christ when you, ‘christian’ me-first millionaires, are spending all the income for your own decadent lifestyle. You preach about giving tithes and that God will bless you for that. But from all those income, you are not giving what belongs to God, but give first to yourselves. Shame on you!!!!
It appears that a lot of these ministries are starting to feel the pinch. Maybe people are starting to wise up. The prosperity gospel just does not work. Its a false gospel sold by oil snake salesman to desperate and sometimes NEEDY people. These people get rich at the expense of others. Leeches leeching of people.
Their exposure does great damage to the TRUE GOSPEL. It is because many do not realise that the prosperity gospel has no basis in scripture but is an amalgamation of many religious beliefs including new age occultic teachings. Many I hope are begining to wake up to realise that what they are confessing they are not posessing. All the health and wealth teaching is nothing more than the same old SNAKE OIL sold by crooks. They get rich but the snake oil does more harm than good. They walk away laughing while the buyers are left with empty pockets.
If a person actually looks at the Old Testament on what was actually offered by the tithe you will find that money was not actually excepted. Money was never to be offered and tithing was never taught in the New Testament.
The trick of these con artist is the power of persuasion and the belief that the snake oil has amazing powers. That it could do for you what it did for them. The real trick is never to allow those who buy into the lie to realise that the snake oil has nothing in it. Not for a moment or people will realise they have been sold snake oil. The con artist will make more and more promises, so long as people do not realise or wake up to the truth
The real power is seperating you from your money without realising that you are getting nothing in return.
Sadly the people themselves are partly to blame because they DESPERATLY want to believe in the power of the snake oil. So the salesman and the buyer have something in common, which is The POWER OF BELIEF. One is selling the allusion and the other embracing it. MODERN COMERCIALISM AT ITS BEST, WITH RELIGIOUS OVERTONES!
Part of the reason there will be a great falling away, I think, is the disillusionment that comes because of these people’s false ministries and false gospel.
you right
The real sick thing is that people like Randy White with his million dollar home and Juanita Bynum with her million dollar mansion which they acquired by false and crooked is they believe they are right and have God’s approval!
They forgot what Jesus said in Luke 12:2 “For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, nor hidden that will not be known. And this is what is also happening with Todd! All the hidden things are being made known to the world!
Want to thank ESPN for their revealing story. I cannot stand these crooked TV preachers. They prey on the weak and desperate but they also prey on rich athletes! Randy White is as sleazy as they come. The only way to stop these criminals is to stop sending them money. Unfortunately there is no shortage of folks willing to give up their cash to these sick TV preachers.
THESE CROOKS ARE EVERYHWHERE, SHAME ON THEM, ANYONE IN HIS GOD GIVING RIGHT MIND WILL KNOW THEM AS THEY COME,WATCHOUT, ITS NOT ONLY MONEY PROBLEM, THEY ARE FULL OF ADULTERY,AND HAVE GIVING BIRTH TO THIER KIND.
GOD WILL ALWAYS EXPOSE THEM.ANYONE FOUND GUILTY SHOULD BE SENT TO SERVICE IN AN AFRICAN VILLAGE AS A PASTOR FOR ONLY TWO YEARS , AND WILL KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BE A PASTOR AND NOT A DECORATED PIZZA.THEY WILL NOT SURVIVE.
NOTE THAT THOSE WHO ARE TRICKED ARE BABIES IN CHRIST, AND SOME WHO REFUSE TO GROW UP,WE SHOULD NOT FAIL TO REALISE THAT THESE CREEDY PASTORS HAVE HAVE THEMSELVSE REFUSE TO GROW UP AND ARE NEVER HAPPY WITHOUT MILLIONS IN THIER ACCOUNT
HOWEVER PRAY THAT GOD WILL GIVE US MORE HONEST PASTORS, THEY A VERY FEW MAYBE ONE IN EACH STATE
GOD STILL HAVE HIS OWN MEN AND WOMEN HOW ARE NOT TOO BUSY WITH THE BANKS
The Whites and many other greedy christian so cxalled leaders are wasting every ones time with their messages.
God is not in any of this when are christians going to get smart about these type of devices. pray for these people
to repent and get right with him
We have taken our eyes off Jesus, we now focus on earthly riches and wealth. The Spirit of the Lord grieves. We need to get back to the message of salvation, love, grace, humility, laying down our lives for Christ, ENOUGH with these messages on money and prosperity. God is not merely interested in making us rich, there is a bigger purpose, lets get to it. Lets seek His heart! Enough abt us and our needs, my God people lets turn around and make everything abt Jesus!
This is why I stopped going to without walls over ten yrs ago, God showed me where Randy was having relations with one of the staffers. I told only one person, described the female to that person without ever seeing the female, the person told me I was right to a Tee. That’s why I stopped going, and Paula White so-called PROPHETESS I found out to be false when she was on stage trying to prophlie and couldn’t get it straight so she looked at someone in the audience and they began to speak, so I know that was full of crock, Then get this a day before Easter they were giving away a car, some people received yellow tickets and some received blue ones I was standing in line for a ticket, some girl came up the some of the staffers said to her we were waiting on you gave her a ticket they called the number lo and behold guess who received the car? you guessed it, I was driving a clunker needed a vehicle really bad told that to the Whites never heard from them. One member wanted to have a meeting with Randy he was told there was a siz month waiting list, but movie stars, atheletes, etc were seen right then and there.
Pastor Paula Is Senior Pastor of WWIC
Pastor Paula White has accepted the mandate and mantle of Senior Pastor of Without Walls International Church in Tampa, Florida and the entire ministry organization.
Pastor Paula is very excited about this wonderful assignment and opportunity from the Lord and covets your prayers during this time of transition for herself and the congregation. We know this is the divine plan of God and that great things are in store!
Pastor Paula has been preaching that this is a “turn around season”…and we are beginning to see the manifestation of that prophetic Word! We invite everyone to join us at Without Walls International Church in Tampa, FL every Sunday at 9:00 and 11:00 am.
Paula White is a Pastor, Life Coach, Motivational Speaker, Author, Philanthropist, TV Personality, Mother, Preacher and Teacher. Behind her unassuming beauty and gentle, girlish charm is a story of tragedy and triumph, poverty and prosperity. She has overcome tumultuous early years to dedicate her life to helping others transform their circumstances, and discover God’s unique plan of destiny for their lives. http://www.paulawhite.org/content/view/115/88888970/
The Tithe Liars are not teaching the free gift of God which includes free blessing bought and paid for by our Lord Jesus on the Cross when He said “it is finished”, translated as “paid in full” Jesus did not say on His Cross partially paid then you owe the rest as a balance of ten percent. If people were really studying their Bibles they would know that Christ has redeemed us from the Curse of the (tithe) LAW.
Study the book of Galatians and read what it said for yourself, or else you will get the scams you so deserved.
Ephesians 2:15 “He (Jesus) Abolished the Jewish law with its commandments and rules, in order to create out of two races one new people in union with Himself, in this way making peace”. The Jews were the first people chosen by God but their blessings, and covenant was based on Mosaic law keeping. The Gentiles were outside of those Old Testament laws but have been grafted in by Grace because of the finish work of Christ on the Cross. People that are trying to buy Gods favor have no idea what Grace really means. Grace is Favor this includes your healing, ( by His stripes you were healed) And His Blood has delivered you from all curses including the curse of poverty, sickness or oppression. Stop stealing the Lords glory by what you paid and give Him all the Glory by what He paid. “It is finished”!!! What do you think paid in full means go ask the tithe liars!
And Judas was…..
And his ending was….
Hi and the White’s Ministry, etc…
Sex and Evangelical Churches:
Tony Alamo, Paul Crouch, Ted Haggard, Paul Barnes, Lonnie Latham, Earl Paulk, Coy Privette,Joe Barron and Todd Bentley and…
“Evangelist Gone Wild”
Kenneth and Gloria Taffi, Creflo Dollar, Eddie L. Long, Joyce and David Meyer, Randy and Paula White and…
Finally Silenced and TCO:
Mathew F. Hale, Warren Jeffs, Jung Myung Seok, Luc Jauret, William Kamm, Ervil LeBaron, Alice Lenshina, Jeffery Lundgren, Fred “Freddie Baby” Phelps, Howard Douglas Porter, Jacques Robidoux, Paul Schafer, Roch Theriault, Dwight York and…
A Christian Terrorist uses (self proclaimed combinations of scriptures and theology) to justify violence committed against a peaceful society.
A Religious Terrorist is the same. Judeo-Christians, Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, and any other religious names can and sometimes do commit atrocities in the name of salvation, etc…
Peace, Love and Understanding does not require the above listed ministers or their particular religious climates, causes or denominations. A very good writer left this previous comment, ” God created us with Peace, Love and Understanding already in place.”
Religion not Required!
Thanks!
(www.2forthepage.com)
Phil Edwards
Philip:
Huh?
The likes of Bernie Madoff come in various guises. The Whites are just two more in a long line of charletons out to fleece the greedy and naive.
Phil Edwards in response to your posting, no real authentic Christian is violent. Jesus said turn the other cheek. He also said He came to save not condemn. It was fake religious people that killed him yet it was allowed to fulfill the plan of Salvation. I was just wondering if you could rid the world of people would it be the Religious people if so you have a terrorist mindset. So how is that any better than the people you are accusing of the act. Just because you lack opportunity and can only wish it in your heart does not make you all that much better. I apologize if fake Christians hurt you but no human being is perfect. That’s the point of needing a Savior, we are fallen and imperfect beings.
those who live in glass houses should not throw stones! i take exception to the comments of one of your contributors, erasmus nosa oleghe. he’s a bishop here in benin city, edo state, nigeria. he’s a notorious ‘trawley’ (human traficker)! prosperity gospel’s his message too, and i dare say, his integrity’s seriously i doubt.
I think if everyone thought about their words about the pastors in ministry need to pray. We are not supposed to touch the annointed. We are to pray for them first before we start the day. 1 Tim 2:1. Then we will live in peace if we had the faith in our prayers. Pray for Jerusalem, then we will live in peace. Romans 2:1, Matt 7:1, Luke 6:37-38. You judge then you will be judged. We are defiled in certain areas of our life with Bitterroot judgements as children. Then that judgement or inner vow will rise up and defile us. Heb 12:15, that judgement will rise up and defile us so we fall from the grace of God.
Inner vows made as children and forgotten will affect us now. We all made them. Ephesians calls them dark things of the heart, hardheartedness, blindness, hidden things of the heart, we all have made them. So be careful unless you fall from the grace of God and made and example of. Take care of the hidden places or ask GOD to reveal what they are. By the way when you deal with the bitterroot judgments, Inner Vows, Soul ties things happen. Anger, Homosexuality, Pornography, Sexual addictions, addictions just fall off. Many people had marriages healed. This where divorce, lust of money, everything comes from. A forrest fire can burn for years burning deep in the ground the roots.The root is where the problems are. Try it. Pray for the Rehema, Faith says you have it. So praise GOD until it shows up. please don’t curse our pastors, and our nation. As a christian, our negative words are prophecy spoken. Practice 1 Tim 2:1 and intercede for change. Thanks
Linda,
Take a moment to do a little introspection and take note of the fact that you are the perfect product and mouthpiece of the Word of Faith movement. “our negative words are prophecy spoken”???? Where do you even get close to that in the Words of our Lord Jesus Christ? And where does this “touch not the Lord’s anointed” come from all the time in the branch of the church you come from? Please, I beg you, read 1 Cor 5 and understand that, in the body of Christ, we are required to root out sin in believers, that is, judge the sin, and if the sinner is not repentant, we are to expel them and have nothing to do with them; God’s instruction, not mine. Is this meant to trigger an avalanche of petty sin exposure? Not at all, but it is certainly meant to expose prominent Christians so that others will not fall and bring dishonour to the One we say we love.”The chief end of man is to glorify God”, not bring His glorious name into disrepute because of the “teaching” of frauds like the White’s. Do a little research of quotes and teaching of theirs on this and other sites and, if you’re open to the Holy Spirit’s leading, you’ll find they do not teach the Bible in its entirety, only the bits that build on their New Age, everythings-all-right, let’s-get-well-and-rich rubbish. I don’t mean to suggest that all they do and say is wrong but the spirit behind the main thrust of their teaching is not that of The Spirit. That goes for most of the Word of Faith/Lakeland/NAR leaders.
How’s that 100-fold return thingy working for Paula White?
Doesn’t seem to be working too well, does it?
She could give a million dollars and get $100 million dollars in return with that 100-fold doctrine in play, and wham-o… all debts paid off!!!
Then she could give, say, 30 million dollars and get $3 billion dollars in reurn. Then give half of that and get $150 billion in return….
Richest person on the planet!
All the crowd that she runs with should all be multi-billionaires by now, with trillions of dollars combined between them.
Indeed, where’s the beef?
Brad
Obviously You are a fan of Paula White!
I wish You would tell her to stop asking people for money during the Jewish Holidays,saying that they will be honoring God!
I don’t need to pay her for the Atonment!
I received it for FREE from JESUS!
Once I left a prayer request in her website and now I can’t get rid of her!
When they email us,if we reply asking them to remove our email adress from their list,the message doesn’t go through!
When I think that she got Donald Trump’s endorsement for one of her books!
Well,they both are in the money business!
No wonder she says that Jesus is not the only begotten Son of God!
After all,doesn’t the Bible say that the love of money is the root of all evil?
Lord,remove the scales from Brad’s eyes!
I pray that God restores her marriage with Randy and that he gets healed and that they will set an example of God’s great restoration miracles to the world in Jesus Name. Amen.
Did either of them commit adultery against each other? Luke 6:18.
Did either of them abandon the other? 1 Cor. 7:15
If no for either or both, then they are both to do what 1 Cor. chapter 7 says and remain unmarried or be reconciled to each other.
I pray, too, that their marriage is restored. I doubt, though, that they will both remain unmarried if they aren’t reconciled. Unscriptural divorce and remarriage are rampant in Charismatic circles.
What I have noticed in many of the Churches, is that if you are not in the lime light to say, then you are nothing, but what you can put in the offering. But to all of those who are bitter about this, it was for warned in the Bible, about the Sheep in Wolves clothing. Don’t allow yourself to be put into the same ways as these people, for in time they shall answer to a much higher power than themselves. I too have been in situations where I too have turned to the Church for help, only to have them not help me, but being forsaken by my own family, it made it easier for me to just turned the other check, and thank the Lord for not being the way that they are. It hurts and I will never say that it don’t for I am only human, and in being human, I also have a heart, and I too have been born into sin. I know that my God is not sleep nor is he dead, and I know that if I don’t have money he will love me no matter what, but in these Churches if you are not in the media, or have figures behind your name, you are nothing. I pray that the Lord will allow these so called Pastor’s to really look beyond the Total in their offering pan, and look into the hearts of their followers, and not turn their backs against them, and to thank the Lord for allowing them the privillage to serve all of the hurting people who needs prayers and understanding. Jesus never picked out the rich to council to or talk to , he loved us all.