Has Britain Lost Its Mind? Political Correctness Gone Mad
“Christian couple face losing hotel after criminal charges for offending Muslim woman
By John Bingham, The Telegraph, Sept 20 2009( link)
“A Christian Couple face losing their livelihood after being charged with a criminal offence for offending a Muslim woman by saying that Islamic dress is oppressive.
Ben and Sharon Vogelenzang are awaiting trial accused of breaching public order by insulting a guest at their hotel in Aintree, Liverpool, about her religion.
A Christian Couple face losing their livelihood after being charged with a criminal offence for offending a Muslim woman by saying that Islamic dress is oppressive.
The couple, who are members of an evangelical congregation, were arrested by police after getting into a discussion with the woman about the differences between Christianity and Islam earlier this year.
Mrs Vogelenzang, 54, is understood to have described Muslim dress as putting women into “bondage” while her husband, 53, allegedly described the Prophet Mohammed as a “warlord”.
The Christian Institute, which is finding the Vogelenzangs’ defence, said that the case showed that Christians are suffering growing “persecution” by officials who use the law to prevent them speaking about their faith.
It is understood that the couple’s business, the Bounty House Hotel in Aintree, has suffered a major drop in takings because of the case.
Friends said that they had seen bookings fall by up to 80 per cent after a local hospital stopped an arrangement in which it recommended the hotel to people attending courses there after hearing that the owners were facing criminal charges.
Although the couple have told friends that they understood the hospital’s position, they fear they could end up losing their business.
“It is just a consequence of the case that not only are they worrying about criminal charges but they may also lose their business,” said Mike Judge, a spokesman for the institute.
It is understood that the argument happened on the last day of the woman’s stay at the hotel in March when she appeared in Muslim dress.
The woman, who has not been named, is said to have told them that Jesus is considered a “minor prophet” in Islam while the debate also touched on the status of Mohammed.
The guest complained to Merseyside Police who called the couple in for an interview. They were questioned twice before being charged with a religiously aggravated public order offence.
They appeared before magistrates last week where they denied the charges and are due to go on trial later this year. If found guilty they face a fine and a criminal record.
Mr Vogelenzang denies calling the Prophet Mohammed a “warlord”. It is understood that his wife accepts that she used the word “bondage” about Islamic dress but denies deliberately causing offence.
“Even if the court accepts that these things were said, I have read this sort of thing in many western criticisms of Islam,” said Mr Judge.
“If we are really saying that someone can’t express that without having their collar felt by the police I think we are in a very worrying situation for freedom of speech.”
He added: “There is a persecution of Christians and I think public officials are misusing the law in that way.”
Merseyside Police confirmed that the couple have been charged with religiously a aggravated public order offence.”
Comment - This sentence, in my view, summarises very well what is going on in today’s country: “A spirit of silence “shushes” Britain, I see a finger pressed against her adulterous lips.” (excerpt from a prophetic word given in 2007)
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There can be NO DOUBT that the persecution of Christians is gathering momentum. The freedom of speech! what freedom. You can speak about anything but be it Christian, forget it. The thought police will be at your door.
We all know what is coming! We are in the last of the last days. I have always felt that some form of persecution will arise before the return of Christ. HERE IT IS.
There is nothing said here that has not been said by others. But because they were Christians.. its fair game time. Could it be the reason WHY we now have the “out of Church” Christians?
Could it be that God is going to hide his people among the nations? Scattering them before churches are forced to register their congregations with the government.
The persecution of the church is not happening overnight but is a slow rising of the temperture. We can still come back from the brink, but will we? God knows the future and his people will be ready. Before the dawn there is the darkness. When the dawn comes it will be glorious in its beauty and its purity. The radience of that day when we will see our savious face to face. Oh what a day.
In a muslim country non muslims are not allowed to criticise the Moslem faith. To do so can see all manner of ramifications.. Anything to being fined to being stoned.
If this couple go to court and are successfully convicted and given a fine. Which I doubt if it will go that far! It would set precedence under the law that this country is now a muslim inclave.
It will send the message to others that to speak out about Islam will see persecution under some form. Democracy as such will be dead in all but name. If this couple were atheist or liberals, it is unlikely it would have gone anywhere.
IF persecution is on the cards for real, one of the targets to be hit will eventually web sites like this one.
I am told president Obama is hoping to set up an office to gain control of the internet and in an “emergency” cut access to it… otherwise shut it down. How true this is, we will have to wait and see?
No wonder the British National Party is gaining ground!
I’m disgusted that the British Police, in which I served for 27 years as a Police Officer, is being used & allowing themselves to be used as a ‘thought police’. The right to free speech has been all but destroyed for the indigenous population & particularly for Christians. I’m told that one major British political party refuses to accept new candidates for Parliament who are not atheists. Please pray that unrighteous laws like this are removed from the statute book & that we see many more of God’s people voted into Parliament soon—VERY soon!
Yet again white british people are branded racist just because they say what they think. Do the authorities not understand that this mis-use of the law is breading racism by the unfairness of it all. Can we no longer discuss our differences and have our say without some political correct idiot using a law to gag our right of speach. Our forefathers died for the right of free speach (for all, no matter what colour or religeon) and over the last few years, thanks to Blair and his croneys doing their best to give rights to everyone around the world – but not people born and bread in britain – we are losing that right – it makes me disgusted
Something terrible is going to happen in Britain, I believe. Everyone is bending over backwards to accomodate Islam. It’s almost as if they hate their own culture and history. People speak of racism increasing, but racism always means white people and perceived slights by ethnic communities. What about Muslim racism? It’s appaling what these extremists get away with. I have heard terribly insulting words used against people people. “Second hand good” (referring to British women)and “your mother sucked monk’s milk” to name but two. The first of these was spoken openly in a school staffroom. It must be obvious to Muslims that a Christian in Muslim lands would NEVER get away with some of the behaviour exhibited by Muslims in Britain. Yet no Muslim leader has spoken out about this. The injustice of it has made people very angry indeed. Christians are a persecuted group in their own country. Will someone not stand up and speak for us?
the underlying agenda is being advanced Ian – watch Fall of the Republic at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU